PartySick 174,660 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the elder Republican statesman, said President Obama was “directly responsible” for the terror attack in Orlando due to his failure to combat the rise of the Islamic State terror group. McCain’s statement goes beyond the criticism of Obama that has been leveled by his Republican colleagues in the Senate, and it follows remarks made this week by presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who seemed to connect Obama to the attack in a Monday interview and on Wednesday tweeted an article claiming that Obama “actively supported” the terrorist group that became the Islamic State. McCain made his remarks in a Senate hallway to a small group of reporters, responding to a question about the gun-control debate that has flared on Capitol Hill since the Sunday-morning shooting that left 49 clubgoers and the gunman dead. Obama on Thursday traveled to Orlando with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) to pay his respects to victims’ families. McCain answered the question about the gun debate by citing Obama’s culpability for the attack through his foreign policy: “Barack Obama is directly responsible for it, because when he pulled everybody out of Iraq, al-Qaeda went to Syria, became ISIS, and ISIS is what it is today thanks to Barack Obama’s failures,” McCain said. X Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,660 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Let's not forget this is the man who's taken 7.4 million dollars from the NRA over his political career. Of course it's in his (and their) best interest to shift the blame to both Obama and Muslims and away from gun laws that are looser than the few brain cells left over in his head from when he almost put Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from having access to nuclear launch codes. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Why do republicans exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,734 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bio said: Why do republicans exist? So we can suffer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Interesting FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Mess. He's on Obamas side and surprisingly moderate/liberal at times, then he does a complete 180. Wonder how his wife feels about this Anyway, he acts like Obama not calling it "Radical Islam!" every few damn minutes means he hasnt done ANYTHING to stop it, but he has done like, actually quite a bit on the front of terrorism The seeds of isis were sewn a long time before Obama came into office too, so to blame him for that seems silly. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,660 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Mess. He's on Obamas side and surprisingly moderate/liberal at times, then he does a complete 180. Wonder how his wife feels about this Anyway, he acts like Obama not calling it "Radical Islam!" every few damn minutes means he hasnt done ANYTHING to stop it, but he has done like, actually quite a bit on the front of terrorism The seeds of isis were sewn a long time before Obama came into office too, so to blame him for that seems silly. Especially since Obama's administration has been having one success after another in the fight against terrorist groups, including ISIS "Greatest terrorist hunter in the history of the presidency" 4 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: Interesting Hypocrisy is basically a Republican virtue at this point Spoiler At least for the "higher ups" it is. I don't want to offend our Republican friends here on GGD Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 “Barack Obama is directly responsible for it, because when he pulled everybody out of Iraq, al-Qaeda went to Syria, became ISIS, and ISIS is what it is today thanks to Barack Obama’s failures,” McCain said. Okay, but, if you preface the "pulled everybody out of Iraq" portion of that statement with the fact that Bush is responsible for the invasion of Iraq, isn't McCain's argument about what created Islamism the same as the Liberal argument about what created Islamism? He is arguing that America's foreign policy is responsible for creating Islamism, but he is blaming Obama rather then Bush? Is that correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eros92 2,554 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Ok but it WASN'T a terror attack it was a hate crime plain and simple. Literally nothing to do with ISIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, SKANK said: “Barack Obama is directly responsible for it, because when he pulled everybody out of Iraq, al-Qaeda went to Syria, became ISIS, and ISIS is what it is today thanks to Barack Obama’s failures,” McCain said. Okay, but, if you preface the "pulled everybody out of Iraq" portion of that statement with the fact that Bush is responsible for the invasion of Iraq, isn't McCain's argument about what created Islamism the same as the Liberal argument about what created Islamism? He is arguing that America's foreign policy is responsible for creating Islamism, but he is blaming Obama rather then Bush? Is that correct? Obama shouldn't have pulled out so fast. It is Bush's fault for putting us in but it is ultimately Obama's fault for pulling out so fast. He was just asking for a group to come in and take over Ultimately it was a very stupid move on Obama's fault and he is responsible since he was the one who pulled out so quickly. He could have did it gradually but no he just pulled out all together. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, PartySick said: al-Qaeda went to Syria, became ISIS, This is false. That's not how it happened. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,660 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, SKANK said: “Barack Obama is directly responsible for it, because when he pulled everybody out of Iraq, al-Qaeda went to Syria, became ISIS, and ISIS is what it is today thanks to Barack Obama’s failures,” McCain said. Okay, but, if you preface the "pulled everybody out of Iraq" portion of that statement with the fact that Bush is responsible for the invasion of Iraq, isn't McCain's argument about what created Islamism the same as the Liberal argument about what created Islamism? He is arguing that America's foreign policy is responsible for creating Islamism, but he is blaming Obama rather then Bush? Is that correct? When pressed by a reporter on the claim that Obama was “directly” responsible, McCain reiterated his point — that Obama should not have withdrawn combat troops from Iraq: “He pulled everybody out of Iraq, and I predicted at the time that ISIS would go unchecked, and there would be attacks on the United States of America,” he said. “It’s a matter of record, so he is directly responsible.” He's putting ISIS' empowerment and rise on Obama's shoulders and saying it's his fault that they're carrying out attack on U.S. soil (even though the Orlando shooter wasn't part of ISIS, he only admired them and pledged loyalty to them). 2 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Obama shouldn't have pulled out so fast. It is Bush's fault for putting us in but it is ultimately Obama's fault for pulling out so fast. He was just asking for a group to come in and take over Ultimately it was a very stupid move on Obama's fault and he is responsible since he was the one who pulled out so quickly. He could have did it gradually but no he just pulled out all together. I won't pretend to totally understand all this but I trust Obama tbh. Thanks to him, ISIS and other terrorist groups are on the run, hurting for money and troops, and losing a lot of ground. 2 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: This is false. That's not how it happened. Wasn't ISIS formed from radicals after the Afghanistan government was toppled (during Bush's presidency)? I knew at one point but it's slipped my mind tbh. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, CryBaby said: Ok but it WASN'T a terror attack it was a hate crime plain and simple. Literally nothing to do with ISIS. it can be called both hate crime and terror attack, but the shooter acted alone, had no ties with ISIS and at one point bragged about connection to Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, all 3 enemies of each other. It wasn't orchestrated by them. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just now, PartySick said: I won't pretend to totally understand all this but I trust Obama tbh. Thanks to him, ISIS and other terrorist groups are on the run, hurting for money and troops, and losing a lot of ground. ISIS is getting bigger and stronger. It is a fact that he pulled out to quickly, ISIS just took over because he pulled out all our troops quickly. Horrible move but its not like he we ever good with foreign situations (Benghazi). And I would't trust any politician. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I wish people would leave him alone! He is leaving office soon.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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