FATCAT 60,888 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 WASHINGTON — In the latest and perhaps decisive battle over the role of women in the military, Congress is embroiled in an increasingly intense debate over whether they should have to register for the draft when they turn 18. On Tuesday, the Senate approved an expansive military policy bill that would for the first time require young women to register for the draft. The shift, while fiercely opposed by some conservative lawmakers and interest groups, had surprisingly broad support among Republican leaders and women in both parties. The United States has not used the draft since 1973 during the Vietnam War. But the impact of such a shift, reflecting the evolving role of women in the armed services, would likely be profound. Under the Senate bill passed on Tuesday, women turning 18 on or after Jan. 1, 2018, would be forced to register for Selective Service, as men must do now. Failure to register could result in the loss of various forms of federal aid, including Pell grants, a penalty that men already face. Because the policy would not apply to women who turned 18 before 2018, it would not affect current aid arrangements. “The fact is,” said Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, “every single leader in this country, both men and women, members of the military leadership, believe that it’s fair since we opened up all aspects of the military to women that they would also be registering for Selective Services.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/us/politics/congress-women-military-draft.html This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaXCupcakke 3,818 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The draft is dumb BUT yay equality!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Good? ...I still say I'd rather rot in prison than pick up a gun for this country Like Dora said, yay for equality? Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I would love to see a feminist argue against this just because I wouldent know how they would tbh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, JbGaga said: I would love to see a feminist argue against this just because I wouldent know how they would tbh... As a femininst, there is no argument. This is equality. However, I will say that the draft is stupid, and ironic. People used to be so dramatic about gays in the military and how that would lower military morale. And yet they think that a draft wouldn't? Most people, if a draft was instated today, would be against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just now, ZacharyMark said: As a femininst, there is no argument. This is equality. However, I will say that the draft is stupid, and ironic. People used to be so dramatic about gays in the military and how that would lower military morale. And yet they think that a draft wouldn't? Most people, if a draft was instated today, would be against it. I dont think really anyone would be for a draft in todays age. Dem or rep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnikan 602 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Orrrr we could just get rid of the draft entirley and reliaze it's not right to force a human being to fight against thier will regardless of gender??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Johnikan said: Orrrr we could just get rid of the draft entirley and reliaze it's not right to force a human being to fight against thier will regardless of gender??? It hasn't been used since Vietnam and if it was ever brought up again, it'd be fought against so hard it's not even funny So no fear Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherDay 8,402 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The draft should only be used if we are being attacked on our homeland, if no one is signing up so you need a draft then that means no one supports the war and we probably shouldn't be fighting it, was NickARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auro 1,829 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said: The draft should only be used if we are being attacked on our homeland, if no one is signing up so you need a draft then that means no one supports the war and we probably shouldn't be fighting it, They have a lot of soldiers, they pretty much just still make people register because it's easier than getting rid of it He/They Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,959 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I hope it goes through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 57 minutes ago, JbGaga said: I would love to see a feminist argue against this just because I wouldent know how they would tbh... They would argue that they've been campaigning and trying to end Selective Services for EVERYONE for decades actually This is only "equality" under an unequal system. I don't think the answer to oppressing one gender is to oppress the other one equally, but to remove that from everyone. This is a temporary solution to an inequality that shouldn't exist in the first place. Feminism is about the big picture, and Selective-Services as a modern concept entirely misses that picture. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 56 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: As a femininst, there is no argument. This is equality. However, I will say that the draft is stupid, and ironic. People used to be so dramatic about gays in the military and how that would lower military morale. And yet they think that a draft wouldn't? Most people, if a draft was instated today, would be against it. It depends on who the enemy is. Lots of people were more than happy to enlist to fight the Nazis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, MJHolland said: It depends on who the enemy is. Lots of people were more than happy to enlist to fight the Nazis. Then u don't need a draft if people are motivated to fight the war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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