TIME magazine comes for Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj

[Didymus 34,379]

2 minutes ago, JDi said:

but what if they did both.

Well, that's great! But should it be the norm? I don't know. Would Gaga have done less if she just met Kesha in private and showed her support without taking a picture of it to post it on Instagram? I don't think so. I don't get why people like you think she did.

That's not to say making it public is a bad thing, and when you do go public it can be a positive force, but to expect that as a norm is just weird to me. Like, look at Katy Perry going to hospitals completely unknown to paparazzi etc. to hang out with and support kids with incurable diseases. It only becomes public because a kid takes a picture with her and posts it on one of their social media accounts. I actually almost prefer that because that way you can be sure it's not just a publicity stunt.

Even with Nicki who hasn't done any remarkable charity work (to my knowledge), what if she's just really taking care of her family? Wouldn't that be enough? In the end she's just a hard working girl who spends her money the way she likes, I really feel uncomfortable judging her with a different standard, that's just me.

5 minutes ago, JDi said:

(you know we'd know by now)

Also, that's definitely problematic. This forum nearly exploded because of Gaga's first tweet about the issue and many people jumped on her even though they'd be proven wrong later. The same exact thing happened with Kesha. We never know.

6 minutes ago, JDi said:

like I said, I agree that it's not necessary to look for what's not being done but to not get the point of the article is plain hypocrisy.

Why?

7 minutes ago, JDi said:

this discussion is hopeless tho. it's obviously very important to you to not judge these rich and widely admired people for not doing the most of their capacity.

How many people do you know personally who are doing the most of their capacity? Are you doing the most? I know I'm not. That's where my hesitance comes from. And I don't think that's hypocritical or a bad thing at all.

[Didymus 34,379]

6 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Perhaps I should've said "others are thinking what I'm thinking" instead of "everyone is thinking what I'm thinking", but that's just semantics.

You understood perfectly what I meant. 

Well, I'm sorry, but as the person who it was said about I can guarantee that that's not just semantics You also said, correct me if I'm wrong (you can't) that concluding I hated Gaga was the only logical conclusion you could make reading my posts. So that's a double confirmation that there's no dispute possible about me being a Gaga hater, and you're just covering your ass now, that's very offensive for someone who actively went out of his way to attack someone and act like everyone agreed he was someone who shouldn't be here.

[JDi 1,495]

2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, that's great! But should it be the norm? I don't know. Would Gaga have done less if she just met Kesha in private and showed her support without taking a picture of it to post it on Instagram? I don't think so. I don't get why people like you think she did.

maybe she did to show that artists must support each other. that way she's making one statement more.

 

2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

That's not to say making it public is a bad thing, and when you do go public it can be a positive force, but to expect that as a norm is just weird to me. Like, look at Katy Perry going to hospitals completely unknown to paparazzi etc. to hang out with and support kids with incurable diseases. It only becomes public because a kid takes a picture with her and posts it on one of their social media accounts. I actually almost prefer that because that way you can be sure it's not just a publicity stunt.

Gaga did that a lot when she was most talked about and we didn't know about it until months later.

Taylor Swift who according to you does what she does quietly has posted professional photos and videos and brags about every "private surprise".

5 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Why?

because everyone does. even if you feel you need to defend their silence, you still get the point of the article.

9 minutes ago, Didymus said:

How many people do you know personally who are doing the most of their capacity? Are you doing the most? I know I'm not. That's where my hesitance comes from. And I don't think that's hypocritical or a bad thing at all.

we're talking about privileged people who have the capacity.

[Didymus 34,379]

1 minute ago, JDi said:

Gaga did that a lot when she was most talked about and we didn't know about it until months later.

So? This isn't a competition..

1 minute ago, JDi said:

Taylor Swift who according to you does what she does quietly

Nope, I never said that.

1 minute ago, JDi said:

because everyone does. even if you feel you need to defend their silence, you still get the point of the article.

Well, ok.. I do get the point of the article but like I said twice, I think it's ludicrous for Time Magazine to wonder why Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj aren't tweeting about this attack. I'd understand if their fanbases were upset (like we were) but why would anyone else care if not to bring them down for some weird reason?

That's what I take issue with.

3 minutes ago, JDi said:

we're talking about privileged people who have the capacity.

No, you're talking about that, I'm talking about hard working people who can decide what they want to do on their own, just like everyone else can.

You choose to apply a double standard, I don't see any good reason why that should be done. So then let me ask you, I guess: why should these "privileged" people do more than you and me? Don't we have the capacity to do something with the platform we have, however limited? What is this magical capacity? Money? I have more money than a homeless person, so in theory I'm a privileged person who could help the less fortunate as well. But no, I prefer to whine about a celebrity not doing enough.

I'm not interested in that ****.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

20 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Actually look into this please. I've gone through his posts to prove people wrong on this before and I'll do it again. He's said a lot of good things about Gaga and this post you're referring to in this thread was an example of saying "Look, even Gaga, who has a good track record for supporting people in these issues, can't speak out every time there's an opportunity - give these people a break and stop expecting so much from them."

If you guys think it's actually a diss on Gaga, you're interpreting it incorrectly. And if you still peg Didy as a Gaga hater after he clarified himself what he meant and after I've pointed out he's been under "investigation" of being a hater and passed without need for flamebait warnings, then clearly you just want to ignore the facts and evidence and assume Didy hates Gaga just because he doesn't talk about Gaga the way you think he should.

I recently banned someone who kept talking about how they were "done" with Gaga, and I regularly shut people down who try to get up on here and insult Gaga's hard work. If Didy really was this Gaga insulting monster you made him out to be you can bet my ass would be giving him warning points left and right, but after looking into the issue it was determined he's actually MORE positive about Gaga than a lot of other members here, it's just that his positivity also comes in a critical nature. 

They say keep your friends close but your enemies closer. My gut instinct tells me that Didy respects Gaga - probably more than anyone - and that is precisely why he hates her. Sorry but that's just how I feel. 

[Didymus 34,379]

2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

They say keep your friends close but your enemies closer. My gut instinct tells me that Didy respects Gaga - probably more than anyone - and that is precisely why he hates her.

None of that makes any sense.

The point is: no one cares about what you think about me, you shouldn't post that in any thread on any of these forum sections, it's going to be off-topic, insulting and flamebait wherever you'd post it (in that way), so just don't do it. That is all.

People are only charging you for what you said because you said it and used enormously biased and flawed arguments to back it up as if it were a fact. Keep those thoughts where they're supposed to stay and everyone can move on.

[JDi 1,495]

3 minutes ago, Didymus said:

So? This isn't a competition..

 

huh? you are the one sharing your distaste with Gaga's way and preference for others'.

 

3 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Nope, I never said that.

 

2 hours ago, Didymus said:

sometimes it's better to just not say anything at all and let your actions do the talking. For Taylor Swift, that's the case

 

[Didymus 34,379]

Anyway, @Harry and @Kayla thanks for not ignoring this. Means a lot

[JDi 1,495]

27 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, ok.. I do get the point of the article but like I said twice, I think it's ludicrous for Time Magazine to wonder why Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj aren't tweeting about this attack. I'd understand if their fanbases were upset (like we were) but why would anyone else care if not to bring them down for some weird reason?

That's what I take issue with.

 

how ludicrous could it be if many people (with whom you might not agree but still) think that and they're writing for the masses?

 

27 minutes ago, Didymus said:

No, you're talking about that, I'm talking about hard working people who can decide what they want to do on their own, just like everyone else can.

You choose to apply a double standard, I don't see any good reason why that should be done. So then let me ask you, I guess: why should these "privileged" people do more than you and me? Don't we have the capacity to do something with the platform we have, however limited? What is this magical capacity? Money? I have more money than a homeless person, so in theory I'm a privileged person who could help the less fortunate as well. But no, I prefer to whine about a celebrity not doing enough.

I'm not interested in that ****.

of course there's going to be a double standard lol Swift and Minaj are in the 0.000001%

[Didymus 34,379]

1 minute ago, JDi said:

huh? you are the one sharing your distaste with Gaga's way and preference for others'.

That is ****ing it.

[JDi 1,495]

Just now, Didymus said:

That is ****ing it.

that's my favorite Disney movie

[Didymus 34,379]

1 minute ago, JDi said:

of course there's going to be a double standard lol Swift and Minaj are in the 00.000001%

Well, I don't approve of double standards in any shape or form so there we have it then. See ya.

[Didymus 34,379]

1 minute ago, JDi said:

that's my favorite Disney movie

Mine too. At least something we can agree upon.

[Lucas 26,875]

Nicki and Taylor only care about the gays when they need to sell music.

I'm so surprised that Britney posted about it though, she's usually never posting about any kind of event. She really improved lately in terms of personnality, I'm so happy that she's getting better

[JDi 1,495]

Just now, Didymus said:

Well, I don't approve of double standards in any shape or form so there we have it then. See ya.

I used to be like that too but nah doing the absolute most must be an honor not an opportunity

your obsession with double standards is the root of everything I disagree with you about tho so I must really like you after all