Trump: "I called it and asked for the ban"

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18 hours ago, Gaga Monster said:

How is my comment racist at all. It is temporary, but American lives are at risk and people are being killed. Enough is enough and we need a temporary ban till we figure out how we can prevent this

What you don't get is that there are hundreds and maybe even thousands of people who are NOT Muslims and still murdering. Banning millions of people because of one person doesn't make any sense.

We might as well ban all white and black people, since a few of them committed serious crimes. Doesn't make any sense, right? Exactly. 

[Chump 1,094]

Just now, YourSweet666 said:

 

So can we say the same about Russia? The way Putin is worshipped by many Russians, gays and immigrants are beaten and/or killed on the streets; do Russian people "give a ****"? Should Russians be banned from Western countries?

 

What I'm talking about is that gays are killed by their GOVERNMENT in most islamic countries. There is a law that forbids to be gay

I've seen gays being bullied in Russia, and I believe they are being killed sometimes, but the government absolutely does not support that. Such things happened in USSR, but not now

And why do muslim countries only have such laws nowadays? Because it's in their religion, there's no other explanation

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7 minutes ago, Chump said:

It does. Gays and other minorities are being killed in their countries and they don't give a sh"t. They ARE a problem

If they let their government do such things to their people, then they are no better

Do you understand that this tragedy was going to happen with or without the ban? He was a citizen, he was already here and no one could deport him.

Last time I checked a white American murdered Christina Grimmie, a white American murdered three people outside of Planned Parenthood, a white American killed 9 black people at the Charleston Church, a white American murdered 12 people at a movie theater in Aurora... White Americans seem to be a big problem too.

[DrewStevens 5,249]

9 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

Do you wanna compare lists?  

I bet our lists are very similar. It's too easy to pick the candidates 

[Chump 1,094]

Just now, DrewStevens said:

Do you understand that this tragedy was going to happen with or without the ban? He was a citizen, he was already here and no one could deport him.

Last time I checked a white American murdered Christina Grimmie, a white American murdered three people outside of Planned Parenthood, a white American killed 9 black people at the Charleston Church, a white American murdered 12 people at a movie theater in Aurora... White Americans seem to be a big problem too.

I don't say they should be banned.

But maybe they should start promoting kindness, love and acceptance?

Once again, having laws that allow to kill gays legally do not promote love and acceptance

They do not accept these people in their countries, but they want to be accepted. Isn't it the time for them to start accepting people? Their governments must do something

[DrewStevens 5,249]

Just now, Chump said:

I don't say they should be banned.

But maybe they should start promoting kindness, love and acceptance?

Once again, having laws that allow to kill gays legally do not promote love and acceptance

They do not accept these people in their countries, but they want to be accepted. Isn't it the time for them to start accepting people? Their governments must do something

Of course those countries should do something but America should do something about their crazy ass citizens too.

If a Muslim is born here then he/she is an American, he/she will no longer be part of that country were his/her parents come from.

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11 minutes ago, Chump said:

What I'm talking about is that gays are killed by their GOVERNMENT in most islamic countries. There is a law that forbids to be gay

I've seen gays being bullied in Russia, and I believe they are being killed sometimes, but the government absolutely does not support that. Such things happened in USSR, but not now

And why do muslim countries only have such laws nowadays? Because it's in their religion, there's no other explanation

 

Not true. Most of muslim countries are secular/under dictatorships (you know what that means?)/lawless-in a state of WAR. You have no idea how the people who live there feel or how much they can do to change anything. They tried to peacefully protest against tyrant Assad and they were tortured and murdered by the government, they were killed by chemical weapons and Russia supports that and bombs them too. 

Russian government is openly anti-gay and that encourages all the hate crimes committed by white supremacists and homophobes. By your logic, Russian people don't give a ****, since they are not fighting against the giverment and they're not making a changes in their society. So the ban would be appropriate.

It's just your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, Gaga Monster said:

I agree. We need a TEMPORARY ban on Muslims entering the country. Gun control will not work

He was born and raised on US soil though. 

[Chump 1,094]

13 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

Of course those countries should do something but America should do something about their crazy ass citizens too.

If a Muslim is born here then he/she is an American, he/she will no longer be part of that country were his/her parents come from.

There's always crazy citizens

You should agree that crazy government and crazy laws are worse

I think if they repeal those laws, in few years people there will start to change their minds. Until then, they are dangerous

11 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

Not true. Most of muslim countries are secular/under dictatorships (you know what that means?)/lawless-in a state of WAR. You have no idea how the people who live there feel or how much they can do to change anything. They tried to peacefully protest against tyrant Assad and they were tortured and murdered by the government, they were killed by chemical weapons and Russia supports that and bombs them too. 

Russian government is openly anti-gay and that encourages all the hate crimes committed by white supremacists and homophobes. By your logic, Russian people don't give a ****, since they are not fighting against the giverment and they're not making a changes in their society. So the ban would be appropriate.

It's just your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

Russia doesn't have laws that allow to kill or abuse gays. And there are openly gay and drag artists here. Can you name one popular gay or drag artist from Iran or Iraq? No, cause they are dead

"…In Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty."

You may look up the links

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

[lego 44,165]

20 minutes ago, Chump said:

But maybe they should start promoting kindness, love and acceptance?

 

THEY

always dumb generalization

 

 

[DrewStevens 5,249]

1 minute ago, Chump said:

There's always crazy citizens

You should agree that crazy government and crazy laws are worse

I think if they repeal those laws, in few years people there will start to change their minds. Until then

Russia doesn't have laws that allow to kill or abuse gays. And there are openly gay and drag artists here. Can you name one popular gay or drag artist from Iran or Iraq? No, cause they are dead

"…In Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty."

You may look up the links

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

Of course those laws are worse than crazy people but those laws are only effective in those countries. 

But America isn't flawless. The laws in America permitted that crazy guy have a gun which permitted him murder 50 people and wound other 53.

Maybe America should try to fix their own problems which have caused hundreds of deaths in a few years.

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19 hours ago, Gaga Monster said:

I agree. We need a TEMPORARY ban on Muslims entering the country. Gun control will not work

I keep coming back to read this post and laugh every time because the terrorist in Orlando was a US citizen. 

[Chump 1,094]

4 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

THEY

always dumb generalization

 

 

I was talking about those who seed the hatred, about their governments

And you can't disagree that the hatred towards homosexual people comes from Quran. If the reason is not religion, then what?

It's the same in Russia, cause it's in the Bible. Sodom & Gomorrah, you know

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A ban on Muslims entering the country would NOT have prevented the Orlando attacks. The person was an AMERICAN and lived in the U.S.  A goddamn ban would do nothing. 

[lego 44,165]

22 minutes ago, Chump said:

There's always crazy citizens

You should agree that crazy government and crazy laws are worse

I think if they repeal those laws, in few years people there will start to change their minds. Until then, they are dangerous

Russia doesn't have laws that allow to kill or abuse gays. And there are openly gay and drag artists here. Can you name one popular gay or drag artist from Iran or Iraq? No, cause they are dead

"…In Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty."

You may look up the links

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

 

So from your link

there is no death penalty for homosexuality in majority of muslim countries (opposite of what you just said)

No death penalty in

Algeria, Maldives, Malaysia, Qatar, Somalia and Syria (tho it's illegal and parts of Somalia and Syria are in war, under control of terrorist groups)

Same-sexxx sexual intercourse is legal in 20 Muslim-majority nations (Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burkina Faso, Chad, Djibouti, Guinea-Bissau, Lebanon, Iraq (doesn't count under ISIS) Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Mali, Niger,Tajikistan, Turkey, West Bank (State of Palestine), and most of Indonesia (except in Aceh and South Sumatra provinces, where by laws against LGBT rights have been passed), as well as Northern Cyprus).[16][17] 

In Albania, Lebanon, and Turkey, there have been discussions about legalizing same-sexxx marriage.[18][19] Homosexual relations between females are legal in Kuwait andUzbekistan, but homosexual acts between males are illegal.[20][21][22][16] 

 

Nice how you skipped everything and justified Russian people not changing their society and government. Hypocritical. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Chump said:

I was talking about those who seed the hatred, about their governments

And you can't disagree that the hatred towards homosexual people comes from Quran. If the reason is not religion, then what?

It's the same in Russia, cause it's in the Bible. Sodom & Gomorrah, you know

 

You said the problem is in people - "THEY are dangerous" (generalization) "because they don't give a **** what their government does" - these are your words.  It can be applied to any other non-Western nation too.