monsterdino 32,001 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, MJHolland said: But it's NOT sexist to say we should vote for her because she's a woman? Lady f*cking Gaga just did it yesterday. Don't pretend like it's not happening. So many Hillary supporters are already saying it's sexist to oppose her. People in the other thread today were saying it was sexist to point out she wore a $12k jacket. There is a sentiment that if you oppose her you're a sexist. That is why modern feminism is cancer. Lady Gaga 24 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, MJHolland said: But it's NOT sexist to say we should vote for her because she's a woman? Lady f*cking Gaga just did it yesterday. Don't pretend like it's not happening. Omg You are making the assumption that it's the only reason they are voting for her. THAT is sexist. Gaga mentioning that Hillary is a female president is a plus. It's one of the favorite things about Hillary or one description that she employed because she relates to her. It doesn't make it the only reason she's supporting her. Stating this implies that if Hillary went out there and started eating babies, Gaga would still support her because she's a woman. However someone saying we should vote for someone ONLY because they are a woman is sexist you are right, but the only people who say that are ultra feminist fools. So don't play that argument with me young man Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 29 minutes ago, monsterdino said: Because I've just clocked you and Hillary you dont have anything to answer so you sending this? pathetic Clocked me? Your first argument was that you "you see it in her eyes". What kind of response is there to that? LOL... "According to what I saw in her eyes, she loves us" The second one is an assumption that I support her because Gaga does. Where did that come from? You don't even know me. Just look at my history here Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,294 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Jesus ****ing Christ this thread was supposed to be about the positive and inspiring milestone in US politics and the same people come in here to **** on it out of bitterness. Normally that's reserved for conservatives. How low have you sunk? 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbcherry 591 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Honestly it is cool that there is a woman, but I much would have preferred Bernie.. Edit: not trying to be negative, it really is a milestone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Just now, llbcherry said: Honestly it is cool that there is a woman, but I much would have preferred Bernie.. I'm sure, but why are people dismissing this? I really want to know. If Bernie had won, that was the first time a socialist AND a Jewish person would have been the presumptive nominee. Those are milestones too, that prove that the USA is becoming more inclusive and accepting of other creeds and ideologies. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Omg You are making the assumption that it's the only reason they are voting for her. THAT is sexist. Gaga mentioning that Hillary is a female president is a plus. It's one of the favorite things about Hillary. It doesn't make the only reason she's supporting her. Stating this implies that if Hillary went out there and started killing babies, Gaga would still support her because she's a woman. However someone saying we should vote for someone ONLY because they are a woman is sexist you are right, but the only people who say that are ultra feminist fools. So don't play that argument with me young man Voting for someone because of their gender, even if it's not the only reason, is sexist feminist bullsh*t. We don't need affirmative action for the White House. Sorry, but I want PC affirmative action OUT of the equation as to who leads this country all together. Further proof as to why modern feminism is cancer. There is almost no gender gap in pay or opportunity in the US in 2016, yet some of you still like to pretend women need special treatment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbcherry 591 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Just now, LebaneseDude said: I'm sure, but why are people dismissing this? I really want to know. If Bernie had won, that was the first time a socialist AND a Jewish person would have been the presumptive nominee. Those are milestones too. Yeah, I just edited my post to show more appreciation for the milestone. The whole race this election season has been so messy, I think it is overshadowing the fact that this is really a big deal. It was such a massive deal when Obama was the first black man nominated/elected, it really is surprising that there isn't much awe or appreciation. Maybe that just speaks towards the attitude towards women in leadership in this country. (Lol. My phone almost corrected that to say "women in lederhosen.") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Everbody acting it's so special, but countries like Germany, Brazil or Israel all had/have a female leader Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Queen of being the first female nominee to be indicted. Breaking boundaries for women left and right Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Just now, MJHolland said: Voting for someone because of their gender, even if it's not the only reason, is sexist feminist bullsh*t. We don't need affirmative action for the White House. Sorry, but I want PC affirmative action OUT of the equation as to who leads this country all together. Further proof as to why modern feminism is cancer. There is almost no gender gap in pay or opportunity in the US in 2016, yet some of you still like to pretend women need special treatment. You're missing the point. People who place the fact that she's a woman highly in their priorities don't do it just because she's a woman. It's for many other reasons. For one it stands for something. As noted, this is an important milestone that justifies all the hard work that has been done in the field of women's rights. Speaking of, there is the expectation that a woman will have an understanding of women's rights that a man can not have and that is true, in addition to the expectation that it will be a focus of their presidency. There are certain viewpoints that only a woman can have, and as someone who has fought for women's rights for most of her career, Hillary is more than qualified for this. --- Don't call it feminism. Voting behavior is affected by how voters relate to their candidate. People like Trump because he "speaks his mind". People like Sanders because he's anti-establishment. People like Hillary because she's a woman. Why are the first two good, but the third bad? --- Your last sentence is dismissive of the struggles women still face. I'm not going to argue this point, although it does frame the rest of your arguments Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,294 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Simon said: Everbody acting it's so special, but countries like Germany, Brazil or Israel all had/have a female leader *Special for the United States It's established that other countries and nations have had female leaders, but this is the first time something like this has happened in the U.S. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Just now, llbcherry said: (Lol. My phone almost corrected that to say "women in lederhosen.") hahaha Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Simon said: Everbody acting it's so special, but countries like Germany, Brazil or Israel all had/have a female leader The USA truly is an anomaly Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: There are certain viewpoints that only a woman can have (AKA men can't speak to the issues) Case and point as to why modern feminism is cancer. Thanks for proving my point. Keep affirmative action OUT of the White House 2k16!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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