giskardsb 12,565 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nono said: No I am not misinterpreting what she is trying to say I made it because nowdays it seems she is not 101% sure she really is, like she was in the past. I did not say she said she is not Gaga anymore nor do I think that is what she is trying to say It's incorrect to interpret the fact that since Gaga is not behaving exactly how she used to, that she is insecure in who she is now. YOU might be insecure in who she is now, but she may not be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMES1993 190 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nono said: No I am not misinterpreting what she is trying to say I made it because nowdays it seems she is not 101% sure she really is, like she was in the past. I did not say she said she is not Gaga anymore nor do I think that is what she is trying to say Gaga has said before. Shes always changing, her work is always changing. Shes constantly changing the album she makes. Her life is a work of art. Shes always evolving. Watch her interview with the today show from march 2014. When she was promoting the G.U.Y. Music video Recognizing the chaotic, fractal nature of our world can give us new insight, power, and wisdom. -Chaos Theory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMES1993 190 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I think we will see our true Gaga at her best, and being completely herself than she ever was before with LG5 Recognizing the chaotic, fractal nature of our world can give us new insight, power, and wisdom. -Chaos Theory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, giskardsb said: It's incorrect to interpret the fact that since Gaga is not behaving exactly how she used to, that she is insecure in who she is now. YOU might be insecure in who she is now, but she may not be. Still waiting for your receipts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,230 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I knew people wouldn't get it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fashion monster 397 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 GP thinks she's a character. She can be a character sometimes but most of the time she is herself. So, when she says that Gaga is not necessarily who she is, she doesn't mean that she's someone else, she's just saying that the idea people have of who she is isn't necessarily what she is. It's not that she doesn't fully know who she is anymore, it's just that now she sees that people perceive her in a way she is not. So when she says Gaga is not necessarily who she is she is just saying "Your idea of who I am is not necessarily who I am". Because to her there are two Gagas: the real one, who is melted with Stefani, and the one people made up in their minds, a caricature. Anyway this is something I posted on another thread discussing this: I understand her. People use the word character in a bad way when referring to her, meaning she is fake and constructed only to seek attention and become famous. But Gaga is simply a better version of Stefani, a version without the insecurities, but people usually only perceive her as a weird theatrical woman and while she may actually be a weird theatrical woman sometimes, she is also many other things that people keep ignoring. Jo Calderone is a character, Candy Warhol is a character, Yüyi is a character, Gaga is simply a better version of Stefani, who happens to be more confident to do what she likes, and for this reason a character, but this doesn't mean she's not herself, she's just expressing it in an artistic way. Of course I may be wrong, but to me it's clear what she's saying and she has been explaining it since the beginning of her career. In many reviews of ARTPOP people criticize her music and say it's not relatable and too much self-centered. They are right, but that's because she has been explaining who Gaga is since the beginning: a global pop star (The Fame) who people love and hate because of the theatrical way she expresses herself (The Fame Monster), but that at the core is not different from Stefani (Born This Way) and therefore isn't afraid to state continuously her passions (ARTPOP). This became clear to me since the Marry The Night video, but people keep ignoring the interlude so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 She's been saying this for years, you guys only listening now? If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGC 226 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 It makes sense guys... And it's something she said multiple times in different ways along the years.. Three sentences come to my mind: -VMA 2011 :i'm not real, I'm theater; -2014: Lady by day Gaga by night -2015: Gaga is resting for the new album And so on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatelynnMarie 4,406 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I've been sitting here trying to convey my thoughts into words on this topic, and it simply isn't happening. I'm terrible at explaining and describing things In my head, I can understand exactly what she means, but it's so hard for me at least to explain it properly without sounding like a lunatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, fashion monster said: GP thinks she's a character. She can be a character sometimes but most of the time she is herself. So, when she says that Gaga is not necessarily who she is, she doesn't mean that she's someone else, she's just saying that the idea people have of who she is isn't necessarily what she is. It's not that she doesn't fully know who she is anymore, it's just that now she sees that people perceive her in a way she is not. So when she says Gaga is not necessarily who she is she is just saying "Your idea of who I am is not necessarily who I am". Because to her there are two Gagas: the real one, who is melted with Stefani, and the one people made up in their minds, a caricature. Anyway this is something I posted on another thread discussing this: I understand her. People use the word character in a bad way when referring to her, meaning she is fake and constructed only to seek attention and become famous. But Gaga is simply a better version of Stefani, a version without the insecurities, but people usually only perceive her as a weird theatrical woman and while she may actually be a weird theatrical woman sometimes, she is also many other things that people keep ignoring. Jo Calderone is a character, Candy Warhol is a character, Yüyi is a character, Gaga is simply a better version of Stefani, who happens to be more confident to do what she likes, and for this reason a character, but this doesn't mean she's not herself, she's just expressing it in an artistic way. Of course I may be wrong, but to me it's clear what she's saying and she has been explaining it since the beginning of her career. In many reviews of ARTPOP people criticize her music and say it's not relatable and too much self-centered. They are right, but that's because she has been explaining who Gaga is since the beginning: a global pop star (The Fame) who people love and hate because of the theatrical way she expresses herself (The Fame Monster), but that at the core is not different from Stefani (Born This Way) and therefore isn't afraid to state continuously her passions (ARTPOP). This became clear to me since the Marry The Night video, but people keep ignoring the interlude so... But that is the thing with every pop star, actor and every famous someone Its not like people think she is something(who she clearly isnt), they think that about rihanna, kim kardashian, justin bieber... Its normal for people to think that way. To think they know the person and actually they dont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just now, PopThatArt said: ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fashion monster 397 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 If you watch the whole interview and pay attention to what she's saying you'll get her point. Plus, I think your thread proves her point: the way you perceive her is not who she is. 10 minutes ago, Nono said: But that is the thing with every pop star, actor and every famous someone Its not like people think she is something(who she clearly isnt), they think that about rihanna, kim kardashian, justin bieber... Its normal for people to think that way. To think they know the person and actually they dont People think Gaga is simply a girl who wanted to be famous and to achieve that does a bunch of weird stuff and that when she's off the stage she throws all that sh*t way. Maybe you're missing the fact that she said that when asked if she is a character. So in the end she says she can't answer clearly because both things aren't true. She can't say she isn't because then her first 22 years would be nonexistent and saying she is would mean everything she does and says and believes and works for is false. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUO YI 6,089 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I don't care anymore I feel I'm not waiting for Gaga, I'm waiting for a stranger. I'll kiss her heart goodbye soon. The night sky tells all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 13,315 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, Prince Bananas said: I don't care anymore I feel I'm not waiting for Gaga, I'm waiting for a stranger. I'll kiss her heart goodbye soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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