Bill Clinton: Sanders supporters "toast" on Tuesday

[Redstreak 6,653]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

It's not up to Hillary supporters to baby you or handle you with kid gloves to try to get your vote. Same that it wouldn't be up to Bernie supporters, if the shoe was on the other foot. This isn't some silly stan battle over which pop girl us the bestest!!11 

Excercising your right to vote is a personal decision, one that should be made by the individual, and by them alone. Worrying so much about the supporters, instead of the candidate and their policies, is a bizarre and immature way to choose a candidate. 

Who said anything about supporters? I'm talking about Hillary herself. If the shoe was on the other foot I would absolutely expect him to fight and make an honest effort to bring hesitant Clinton supporters into his camp instead of shrugging his shoulders and waving a flag labelled "vote blue no matter who"

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

While I'm flattered that you've taken the time out of your busy life(?) to sit and think about me so often enough to create rationalizations on my personal thought processes, I can't ever recall giving any indication of the sort that that's how I am. But really though, I'm honored you've put so much energy in trying to figure me out.

 

Take it as you will.

You literally said you want her to work for your vote as if she hasn't done so already.

You want her to single you out and give you special treatment as consideration when that runs counter to her theme of inclusion.

Nobody is even trying to be rude here. This is a rudimentary analysis of the situation based on context. 

If it doesn't apply to you, that's great.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, Whispering said:

 Worrying so much about the supporters, instead of the candidate and their policies, is a bizarre and immature way to choose a candidate. 

As I said earlier they look for ways to justify not voting for her, as ridiculous as they may be.

[Redstreak 6,653]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

You literally said you want her to work for your vote as if she hasn't done so already.

You want her to single you out and give you special treatment as consideration when that runs counter to her theme of inclusion.

Nobody is even trying to be rude here. This is a rudimentary analysis of the situation based on context. 

If it doesn't apply to you, that's great.

It doesn't. I don't know why you're having such a roadblock interpreting my post to mean Sanders supporters who are hesitant as a whole and instead merely focusing on me specifically. I mean, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're trailing me in almost every thread on this sub can be a tad unnerving.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, Redstreak said:

It doesn't. I don't know why you're having such a roadblock interpreting my post to mean Sanders supporters who are hesitant as a whole and merely focusing on me specifically. I mean, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're trailing me in almost every thread on this sub can be a tad unnerving.

You're implying that you haven't quoted me first before

 

[Whispering 18,865]

1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

Who said anything about supporters? I'm talking about Hillary herself. If the shoe was on the other foot I would absolutely expect him to fight and make an honest effort to bring hesitant Clinton supporters into his camp instead of shrugging his shoulders and waving a flag labelled "vote blue no matter who"

Hillary has constantly put DETAILED information out in interviews, at rallys and on her website. She is constantly continuing to do so. She has far, far more detailed and actual attainable policies available and she has continuously discussed these policies in great detail. Do you need the same stump speech several dozen times like what Bernie did? I'm afraid you simply aren't going to get that simplistic, repetitive stump speech coming from Hillary. Maybe there is another candidate that gives their "big ideas" stump speech over and over that you could vote for? 

[Redstreak 6,653]

5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

You're implying that you haven't quoted me first before

 

 

31 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Granted it's hard to not feel a little special when anytime we interact, 9/10 times it's because you've instigated me.

The last time I remember quoting you first is when you left:

 

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Keep doing the GOP's work for them

 

at the end of your first post

[Morphine Prince 109,986]

21 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Really? You conveniently leave out the fact that these are rally crashers in the title and OP.

The link to the full article is there. We aren't supposed to copy and past entire articles. 

And obviously screaming Bernie supporters are crashing the rally. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

 

The last time I remember quoting you first is when you left:

No that was actually an instance of me responding to a thread you made.

The last time I remember you quoting me was when you interjected during an exchange I made with someone else about Trump by posting Hillary's picture as if it had relevance.

I barely even quote you when you post. Most of our interactions were a result of you making threads, and in case you haven't noticed I tend to be active in most of them.

You're trying to frame me as an aggressor her. Not happening  

[Redstreak 6,653]

1 minute ago, Whispering said:

Hillary has constantly put DETAILED information out in interviews, at rallys and on her website. She is constantly continuing to do so. She has far, far more detailed and actual attainable policies available and she has continuously discussed these policies in great detail. Do you need the same stump speech several dozen times like what Bernie did? I'm afraid you simply aren't going to get that simplistic, repetitive stump speech coming from Hillary. Maybe there is another candidate that gives their "big ideas" stump speech over and over that you could vote for? 

Alright for the twelfth time we know her policies. They suck, and don't do nearly as much as they should, but people would be able to look past that, hold their nose and vote for her. However, when those who would do just that are treated with vitriol, it turns some of them away instead. I don't know why you have such a hard time contemplating that. It's like calling your friend a piece of **** and then wondering why they no longer want to be around you.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

The link to the full article is there. We aren't supposed to copy and past entire articles. 

And obviously screaming Bernie supporters are crashing the rally. 

It's a VERY important context.

It's like putting: "Man kills woman" in the title, putting only the parts about how the man killed the woman, and leaving out the fact that the woman had his child at gunpoint.

The "they" that was used was referring to the Bernie supporters present. The quotes in the article further prove that when he says "They may be screaming" while pointing at them. 

Perhaps he was also shading other Bernie supporters with similar attitudes not present at the rally.

Using "Sanders supporters" in an attempt to collectivize them not only ignores the fact that Sanders supporters do not all act this way, it also enforces a continued tribal mentality. He may be talking about a subsection of Sanders supporters, but he isn't necessarily talking about Sanders supporters in general. You are NOT all the same.

[Redstreak 6,653]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

No that was actually an instance of me responding to a thread you made.

The last time I remember you quoting me was when you interjected during an exchange I made with someone else about Trump by posting Hillary's picture as if it had relevance.

I barely even quote you when you post. Most of our interactions were a result of you making threads, and in case you haven't noticed I tend to be active in most of them.

You're trying to frame me as an aggressor her. Not happening  

? I literally can't post in a thread in this subsection without soon after seeing your name in my notifications box. You may post in threads that I start, but 9 times out of 10 we never directly communicate in those threads until you quote after having made a response to someone else. I can't blame you, I can be a pretty interesting guy to talk to, but sometimes it may need to be a "choose your battles" kind of thing, you know?

[Whispering 18,865]

5 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Alright for the twelfth time we know her policies. They suck, and don't do nearly as much as they should, but people would be able to look past that, hold their nose and vote for her. However, when those who would do just that are treated with vitriol, it turns some of them away instead. I don't know why you have such a hard time contemplating that. It's like calling your friend a piece of **** and then wondering why they no longer want to be around you.

Then, dont vote for a person who had policies that you hate. It really couldn't be more simple. Adults shouldn't be making personal, private and important decisions based on what you are complaining about. The general election isn't a pop girl battle. Too much drama and whining over a personal decision. 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

3 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Alright for the twelfth time we know her policies. They suck, and don't do nearly as much as they should, but people would be able to look past that, hold their nose and vote for her. However, when those who would do just that are treated with vitriol, it turns some of them away instead. I don't know why you have such a hard time contemplating that. It's like calling your friend a piece of **** and then wondering why they no longer want to be around you.

I completely understand...  Like when Bernie Bros say racist things to me, that makes me not want to vote for him even more!!!  

 

[Redstreak 6,653]

Just now, Whispering said:

Then, dont vote for a person who had policies that you hate. It really couldn't be more simple. 

I'm not, you keep speaking to me as if I haven't already arrived at these conclusions weeks ago. But once again, don't be flabbergasted when calls for party unity are met with a yawn.