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Is "Born This Way" the most socially relevant song of the last 10 years?


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ItsTommyBitch

I deplore superlatives :green: 

Not sure.

It touches on a lot of bases and basically says "If you were born this way, you shouldn't feel shame" which while being a good message, kind of entirely misses the point. Regardless of whether things are choices (like sexuality & gender identity are popularly thought of as) or innate, discrimination and prejudice against people different from you is wrong, EVEN if religiously encouraged or mandated :laughga:

It's a great commercial message and it does have a level of importance in the LGBTQ community that I think is good, but we should still be critical of it, as I said earlier.

As to whether its most "relevant", its debatable. As far as being a popular, mainstream success that ALSO talks about such things, It's pretty unparalled in the last 10 years, but I think there are more "relevant" songs that don't paint complex issues with just one brush :emma: 

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PunkTheFunk
2 minutes ago, Music said:

 

It's really great to see fans expressing themselves artistically

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7 minutes ago, Music said:

 

 

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JamJams
12 minutes ago, Music said:

 

:air::laughga::air: THIS KILLED ME


this thread is gold

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Lord Temptation

No competition. It's the anthem of the future. 

 

 

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Raikou

The fact she had the audacity to drop "Gay, Straight or Bi, Lesbian, Transgender life" into a pop single and force some countries to censor the track or at least remove the lyrics from the song is legendary, so I think the song's message is more ballsy and important than Firework, which was easier for people to stomach.

I stan for Katy Perry tho and Firework is technically more culturally relevant so don't come for me.

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eifulien

Hmm what about Kendrick Lamar? I think his message is super important and highly appreciated by the black population. However, I haven't listened to his albums so I can't name a particular song.

But in mainstream popular culture, I think Formation had quite the splash this year, but I dunno it feels like it wasn't lasting enough?? :shrug: 

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I didn't catch her name, but a drag queen performed Born this way live with back up dancers and proper choreo during Oxford Pride, just yesterday! Everyone in the crowd was bopping and having fun and it was a gay old time. :hug:

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LilVenusian

For me Kendrick Lamar's past two album are the most important political/social contributions to music in the past decade. Born this way may have been popular but Kendrick's lyrics already are and are gonna continue to be  studied and respected years from now as serious political/social commentary. Born this way was a good bop but the lyrics were a mess not to mention offensive and kind a condescending in some places (im talking mainly about the bridge :laughga:)

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Rat Boy
4 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Disagree completely. Why does everyone insist on denying "Firework"'s impact???

"Do you ever feel like a plastic bag" are words that shaped an entire generation of free-thinking plastic bags across the country and helped kick-start the Plastic Rights movement in America; this eventually gave rise to Perry v. Plastic, better known as the Plastic Bags Rights legislation, a landmark Supreme Court decision giving all plastic bags the right to drift through the wind and want to start again.

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crisTEAne
15 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

I deplore superlatives :green: 

Not sure.

It touches on a lot of bases and basically says "If you were born this way, you shouldn't feel shame" which while being a good message, kind of entirely misses the point. Regardless of whether things are choices (like sexuality & gender identity are popularly thought of as) or innate, discrimination and prejudice against people different from you is wrong, EVEN if religiously encouraged or mandated :laughga:

It's a great commercial message and it does have a level of importance in the LGBTQ community that I think is good, but we should still be critical of it, as I said earlier.

As to whether its most "relevant", its debatable. As far as being a popular, mainstream success that ALSO talks about such things, It's pretty unparalled in the last 10 years, but I think there are more "relevant" songs that don't paint complex issues with just one brush :emma: 

i think you're entirely missing the message of the song: it's not about feeling shame; on the contrary, it's about being proud of who you are, of the way you were born on the inside. you're the one that should define your identity and the meaning of being beautiful ("i'm beautiful in my way"). it's about tolerance and acceptance: accept yourself and accept/tolerate others. maybe even more importantly, it's about the potential of being born over and over again: if you're not satisfied with who you are, either on the inside or on the outside, you have the potential to redefine both.

these are complex issues, i agree; however, there is much more to the song than just the advocation of LGBT issues. it's an anthem for every misunderstood and insecure individual out there. "no matter gay, straight, or bi, lesbian, transgenderd life," "no matter black, white or beige, chola or orient made," they are on the right track. :nick: 

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