Protesters Get Violent Against Trump Supporters

[Kayla 7,595]

11 minutes ago, TrumpAteMyHeart said:

People on the left are so violent. They have no jobs so they have nothing to lose but wow, this is just sad. And the # of Mexican flags... Don't we live in the USA? Super weird!

Why do people say "they have no jobs" when there's a protest? Funny how there were also people at the Trump rally at the same time and place but you don't accuse them of not having jobs. 

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Anyways, this kind of behavior is inexcusable. It plays right into Trump's hands and only causes him and his supporters to say "SEE! I told you so!" about the people of color they openly degrade on a daily basis. 

In reality, Trump incited this with his hateful words and his supporters influenced this with their subtle and direct racism, but when people hoping for equality act like this it only makes it hard to achieve it. 

I'm not saying people can't be angry, that they should just comply and be kind to Trump and his supporters, but when you resort to getting physically violent you start degrading credibility. 

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Huh? What do you think these protesters are reacting to? They didn't instigate anything. Trump began the rhetoric and his supporters perpetuate it. These are reactions to that verbal abuse and they will only get worse.

Oh and someone with a Britney Spears avatar has no right to comment on expectations.

1)Your point of view is really dumb.Because this doesn't even make sense. 

2)Sadly for you Britney Spears has nothing to do with politics  If we were comparing Gaga with Britney,then you could talk about it.Now you are random.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

8 minutes ago, Britney Spears said:

1)Your point of view is really dumb.Because this doesn't even make sense

2)Sadly for you Britney Spears has nothing to do with politics  If we were comparing Gaga with Britney,then you could talk about it.Now you are random.

Ok let me explain it to you really, really slowly.

You have supporters of a political candidate who employs outright xenophobia, racism, and jingoism on a daily basis. Supporters who have refused to denounce their candidate's words. Supporters who outright support these words. Supporters who agree that Mexicans are rapists, thieves, liars, murderers, among other things.

This has been going on for months. Tensions rise. Anger bubbles. The longer this goes on, the less people can restrain themselves. Many of the protesters were Latinos.

Eventually something is going to break. Someone is going to get angry. You'll see incitement into violence.

That's what ALWAYS happens. History shows it. People who are being insulted and oppressed WILL crack eventually, and Trump is the perfect catalyst.

These attacks didn't come out of a vacuum. They happened as a result of months of Trump's words. This will continue to happen as long as Trump continues his rhetoric. 

So no I'm not even justifying them as @MJHolland says I am. I just understand what causes them. Knowing those reasons does not equate supporting or justifying them. It's called intellectual conversation, something you fail to understand. 

Oh and you bringing up my avatar when this is a discussion about Trump is just as irrelevant, so sit down.

[MJHolland 12,725]

11 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Ok let me explain it to you really, really slowly.

You have supporters of a political candidate who employs outright xenophobia, racism, and jingoism on a daily basis. Supporters who have refused to denounce their candidate's words. Supporters who outright support these words. Supporters who agree that Mexicans are rapists, thieves, liars, murderers, among other things.

This has been going on for months. Tensions rise. Anger bubbles. The longer this goes on, the less people can restrain themselves. Many of the protesters were Latinos.

Eventually something is going to break. Someone is going to get angry. You'll see incitement into violence.

That's what ALWAYS happens. History shows it. People who are being insulted and oppressed WILL crack eventually, and Trump is the perfect catalyst.

These attacks didn't come out of a vacuum. They happened as a result of months of Trump's words. This will continue to happen as long as Trump continues his rhetoric. 

So no I'm not even justifying them as @MJHolland says I am. I just understand what causes them. Knowing those reasons does not equate supporting or justifying them. It's called intellectual conversation, something you fail to understand. 

Oh and you bringing up my avatar when this is a discussion about Trump is just as irrelevant, so sit down.

What rhetoric are you referring to? The people protesting violently in these videos are doing so because Trump wants to uphold our existing laws and deport illegal aliens. That's just what the law says. He's running his campaign on the promise to uphold the law. That is what these protesters with Mexican flags are protesting about. This has nothing to due with any other rhetoric. 

And btw you literally justified this. You said verbal abuse was the same as physical, thereby one has the right to defend themselves with physical blows if they are "verbally abused" (what does that even mean? is that something liberals made up to have another thing to cry over? idk. /tangent) 

Also, your avatar does in fact reveal your bias which does in fact lower your credibility in these threads, just to back of Brit. 

[Redstreak 6,653]

All they're doing is stroking the rights victim complex and converting even more fanaticals.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, MJHolland said:

thereby one has the right to defend themselves with physical blows if they are "verbally abused" back of Brit. 

EXCUSE ME? Where the **** did I say they have the right to defend themselves?

I said violence begets more violence, and verbal abuse is still violence.

Just now, MJHolland said:

Also, your avatar does in fact reveal your bias which does in fact lower your credibility in these threads, just to back of Brit. 

It's Hillary Clinton riding a unicorn with rainbow glasses. Don't take it seriously  

[MJHolland 12,725]

4 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

EXCUSE ME? Where the **** did I say they have the right to defend themselves?

I said violence begets more violence, and verbal abuse is still violence.

It's Hillary Clinton riding a unicorn with rainbow glasses. Don't take it seriously  

You said the two types were the same! That means if someone "verbally abuses" me, I can turn around and verbally and/or physically defend myself!

I don't expect you to grasp logic. You still are struggling to comprehend the definitions of "evidence", "investigation", and "tampering". 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

You said the two types were the same! That means if someone "verbally abuses" me, I can turn around and verbally and/or physically defend myself!

I don't expect you to grasp logic. You still are struggling to comprehend the definitions of "evidence", "investigation", and "tampering". 

You're literally putting words in my mouth. I never implied anything. I only said violence begets violence.

Do you not see how someone who is being mocked and insulted nonchalantly can respond with violence in return, in any shape or form?

Are you not human? It appears you fail to understand how they function. Take some psychology or history courses and get educated.

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said:

You're literally putting words in my mouth. I never implied anything. I only said violence begets violence.

Do you not see how someone who is being mocked and insulted nonchalantly can respond with violence in return, in any shape or form?

Are you not human? It appears you fail to understand how they function. Take some psychology or history courses and get educated.

You literally state in your first post on the thread that Trump's verbal abuse was just as bad as physical abuse, which by nature would allow for the receiving end to respond with violence. 

You've condoned this violence just as much as Trump has.

[SISTERV 3,887]

1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said:

Not justifying any of this violence and these protesters stepped out of line and then some, but the verbal abuse by Trump and his supporters is the driver here and that's just as damaging as any physical abuse anyone may be subjected to. He's fostering divides and this will get worse if it is not curbed.

Still this is beyond the pale and you can't fight fire with fire. This is playing into Trump's hands. Nobody should stoop to this level. People need to restrain themselves.

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. 

The same logic as "well you provoked a rapist by wearing a mini skirt".

The SJWs, the far left, and democrats are physically attacking Trump supporters, yet somehow it's Trumps fault. CROCK OF ****!

You're a hypocrite. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, SISTERV said:

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. 

The same logic as "well you provoked a rapist by wearing a mini skirt".

The SJWs, the far left, and democrats are physically attacking Trump supporters, yet somehow it's Trumps fault. CROCK OF ****!

You're a hypocrite. 

How is that analogy valid?  

How is wearing a mini skirt equivalent to violence?

Who is even endorsing said violence???? One can discuss their reasons without endorsing them. Have you never had a single intellectual conversation before?

My God do you even read what you write? That you can't see how Trump's incitement of violence and fostering of racial divides can lead to this shows how clueless you are about cause and effect.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

13 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You literally state in your first post on the thread that Trump's verbal abuse was just as bad as physical abuse, which by nature would allow for the receiving end to respond with violence. 

You've condoned this violence just as much as Trump has.

Where the **** did I mention the word "allow" or imply anything of that nature?

The relevant part of my post:

"but the verbal abuse by Trump and his supporters is the driver here and that's just as damaging as any physical abuse anyone may be subjected to."

I stated that the verbal abuse perpetuated by Trump drove the situation and it's just as damaging as physical abuse. If you disagree about that then it's fine, but that's where it ends.

My God... Just admit you form your conclusions while reading. Your posts always lack context why do I still take you seriously? I can't remember why I do.

[SISTERV 3,887]

49 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Huh? What do you think these protesters are reacting to? They didn't instigate anything. Trump began the rhetoric and his supporters perpetuate it. These are reactions to that verbal abuse and they will only get worse.

Oh and someone with a Britney Spears avatar has no right to comment on expectations.

Actually these protests have been going on long before Trump said anything about running for protest. They're just getting tons more attention now.

Funny how there literally has been one video of a Trump supporter getting violent, but there are literally THOUSANDS of Trump protesters acting utterly insane and getting violent. You are so biased it's not even funny. I don't know how you can even honestly believe what you're saying. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, SISTERV said:

Actually these protests have been going on long before Trump said anything about running for protest. They're just getting tons more attention now.

Funny how there literally has been one video of a Trump supporter getting violent, but there are literally THOUSANDS of Trump protesters acting utterly insane and getting violent. You are so biased it's not even funny. I don't know how you can even honestly believe what you're saying. 

What did I say that's unbelievable? I'm perfectly aware that this is not a unique situation. Why are you even bringing that up? Can you be consistent in your arguments?

All I've said that the reason for this animus is caused by Trump's own words. People can react to that differently. The source is Trump. These people were not attacked for any other reason.

If you fail to see that, then that's your problem not mine.

[SISTERV 3,887]

5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

How is that analogy valid?  

How is wearing a mini skirt equivalent to violence?

Who is even endorsing said violence???? One can discuss their reasons without endorsing them. Have you never had a single intellectual conversation before?

My God do you even read what you write? That you can't see how Trump's incitement of violence and fostering of racial divides can lead to this shows how clueless you are about cause and effect.

You are endorsing the violence by giving one side a pass because they were "offended". 

And just saying "I don't condone violence BUT".....is like saying "No offense BUT".

You would never give Trump supporters this pass. And it's bullshit.

This is exactly why people are voting for Trump. They're sick of this liberal buckshot where it's okay for you guys to say and act however the **** you want but it's not for the other side.