IntoYou1 391 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thank you so much I been saying this .. This fan need to be patient and let gaga live her life . The album will be out when she think is ready.. Roro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Just now, wahkeenasitka said: Bjork, Ani DiFranco and PJ Harvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, ReidOne said: I think you and @wahkeenasitka are more likeminded than you are currently seeing. She/he is not saying that we are all "wasting" ourselves following Gaga, but simply saying that we should be HONORING our own individual, unique life experiences. And to allow ourselves to expend so much energy in anticipation for a pop album is a waste of that energy. There's nothing wrong with loving a pop star and crediting her for saving your life. But when you allow that love to become a source of anger and listless desire, you are losing sight of yourself. very well said. thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, ReidOne said: I think you and @wahkeenasitka are more likeminded than you are currently seeing. She/he is not saying that we are all "wasing" ourselves following Gaga, but simply saying that we should be HONORING our own individual, unique life experiences. And to allow ourselves to expend so much energy in anticipation for a pop album is a waste of that energy. There's nothing wrong with loving a pop star and crediting her for saving your life. But when you allow that love to become a source of anger and listless desire, you are losing sight of yourself. 7 minutes ago, wahkeenasitka said: But yes, we should never waste our life waiting for the next album. That's just a waste of time. ah, now i see what you mean: you're both talking about the wait for LG5. in that case, it's a funny misunderstanding, because i'm one of those who never complain; on the contrary, i'm always trying to defend gagz and her need of time to explore her creativity and artistry. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, ReidOne said: I turned 16 in 1996, so my favorite albums in the late 90s were Debut, Post & Homogenic by Bjork, To Bring You My Love by PJ Harvey, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy by Sarah McLachlan (I went to Lilith Fair in 1997 & 1998), and Living in Clip / Dilate / Out of Range / Not A Pretty Girl by Ani DiFranco. Those albums changed my life.... Of course I got down on Tori Amos as well, but she didn't leave a lasting impact on me the way the others did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, wahkeenasitka said: I turned 16 in 1996, so my favorite albums in the late 90s were Debut, Post & Homogenic by Bjork, To Bring You My Love by PJ Harvey, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy by Sarah McLachlan (I went to Lilith Fair in 1997 & 1998), and Living in Clip / Dilate / Out of Range / Not A Pretty Girl by Ani DiFranco. Those albums changed my life.... Of course I got down on Tori Amos as well, but she didn't leave a lasting impact on me the way the others did. My best friend in college 2001-2005 was the one who introduced me to all these ladies. I was a commercial pop die-hard going into college, but then I met my friend (Sara) in our 'Jazz, Pop & Rock' music history class. Our first day, I told her I was a massive pop music fan and she told me she was a devoted Tori Amos fan. I responded by saying "Oh, cool! I love her song Cornflake Girl!"... and from there, her eyes rolled and we began a years-long education process. She absolutely opened my eyes to the beauty of empowered female pop artistry, via Tori's 1992-1998 material and PJ, Bjork, and especially Ani. I'm still friends with her to this day (just saw her last week on a visit home). She absolutely changed my musical life with these artists. I'm forever grateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said: i was going to like your post, but then i saw that you liked the comment "don't waste your life wasting on a popstar." the fact that you agree with that, in my eyes, invalidates your entire post. for many monsters, she's not just a popstar: she saved people's lives. yes, it may sound delusional and cringeworthy, but it's true. there is a difference between liking/following a popstar and having someone with whom you share an emotional connection. that's friendship and, therefore, doesn't equal to wasting life on a popsar—it equals to cherishing that friendship. monsters wouldn't throw that friendship away. i know i wouldn't—and i know gagz wouldn't either. that's not what monsters do. I don't think you understood my post. I basically said Gaga's out living her life, go live yours too. I'm not questioning her impact on people's lives but the last thing she would want is her fans to be a group of hermits sat on a forum 24/7 being annoyed that she isn't releasing back to back albums. Like you said, she's saved people's lives so why waste them being pissed off at her? Go live the life she saved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Just now, Benji said: I don't think you understood my post. I basically said Gaga's out living her life, go live yours too. I'm not questioning her impact on people's lives but the last thing she would want is her fans to be a group of hermits sat on a forum 24/7 being annoyed that she isn't releasing back to back albums. Like you said, she's saved people's lives so why waste them being pissed off at her? Go live the life she saved. yes, i said that it was a misunderstanding. you know me, i'm not one of those little complainers. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Really appreciate & resonate with this post, saying some similar things to what I shared.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,406 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Educate us Queen In all seriousness @wahkeenasitka, I agree with all of your points (even though I myself am guilty as charged of being impatient about new Gaga music) and I think your post belongs on the front page of this website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandHeart 993 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, wahkeenasitka said: Dear Little Monsters, I realize that many of you are young. I realize that I am a bit older than the majority of LM's on this site (I'll be turning 37 in a few months - so I have a wee bit of perspective now on the aging / maturation process.) When I see threads like this: I really just feel like you don't get it. And here's what I feel like you don't get: Human beings & especially Artists go through phases of their lives. They grow up. They evolve. They mature. Gaga just turned 30. Just Dance came out 8 years ago, when she was 22. She probably recorded "The Fame" when she was 21. Speaking for myself and having witnessed a lot of other people go through their twenties, your early to mid twenties are a Peak Phase of your life. It is only lived once. I think from about 21 to 28 or 29, you have a peak developmental phase of extreme amounts of risk taking, recklessness, creativity, restlessness, confusion, experimentation, drug & sex exploration, and rampant narcissism. It's a phase. It's a FABULOUS phase, don't get me wrong. But it is a phase, and as you grow up, as you mature into yourself as an adult, your early to mid twenties becomes a bookmark in your life of all the things that were the best, most exciting, most creatively exploratory, self-indulgent, confused and crazy times of your life... Never to be repeated again. You learned your lessons during that peak developmental phase of your life. You learned that XYZ were things that really don't work for you, and you learn about yourself, you learn about yourself as an artist, you learn about your strength, the character of your spirit, and the inexhaustible flame of your passion.... I think this is especially true for an artist like Gaga. While most of you have been complaining about how LONG it is taking for Gaga to produce LG5, and most of you have been complaining about Gaga's romance with Jazz and her C2C phase - I believe this is actually all a sign that her next album is going to be a masterpiece and is going to be her best, most definitive statement as an artist in her life yet - because she has gone through all the extreme narcissistic, super indulgent egomaniac phases of her wild 20s. She has gone through the self-destructive phases and is maturing into an exquisite human being and an impeccable vocalist / artist / performer. What I believe she has done over the last few years is exceptionally wise - to remove herself from the pop shlock machine, and really focus on her self-cultivation, her physical health, her physical stamina, and mastery over herself as an artist and vocalist. We all know that Gaga is a masterful vocalist and performer, but IT TAKES A LONG TIME to create an exceptional body of work, especially an album that is going to have a truly meaningful impact. If all you want is Gaga to churn out mediocre song after mediocre song, then yeah - keep complaining and keep whining about how it's taking too long. But if you want Gaga to show the world she is a masterful, unstoppable tour-de-force - then you really need to back off and quit complaining and prepare to be blown away when the exquisite fruit of her next album, her next masterpiece has been truly ripened and is ready to present to the world in full glory. The pop music industry is fickle, and there is a lot we as fans and observers of the industry don't understand. But there's one thing that I do understand, it's that an artist needs to be Completely In Touch With Their Inner Muse and not be swayed and manipulated by their fans. The only way for Gaga to have any actual success with her next album, and not create another "Artflop" (i hate that term too) - is for her to be so deeply in tune with her inner muse and let this album be an embodiment of this current developmental phase. Perhaps she has moved out of the mediocre phase, perhaps she has moved out of the profoundly narcissistic / self-indulgent / self-destructive phase. Perhaps she is really ready to show us her mastery. That's what I truly believe. So please. Please! Stop with the complaining. Stop with the whining. Be patient. Listen to other music in the meantime. And just be ready for Gaga to blow us all away when the time is right. ---- Edited: One last note: I don't think that people hit 30 years old and all of the sudden "grow up" and lose all their passion, wildness, free-spiritedness, and inspiration. Absolutely NOT. Artists especially get BETTER with age. Their mastery of their craft and their devotion to their passion, whatever their art is, usually improves and becomes more refined with time. I think of Gaga as a Real Artist with an absolute Devotion to self-mastery and her cultivation as an artist... So, I see her as a lifelong student of inspiration, passion, creativity, music and expression. She is in it for the long haul. I believe we will see dozens of albums from her before her body passes into infinity. Eventually, maybe when she's in her 50s and 60s, she might get a little boring. That's to be expected. But honestly - your 30s and your 40s are really your best decades as a mature human being and an artist. Because you're actually IMPROVING and refining, so long as you continue to practice, and work at your talent. Thank you. I've been meaning to say this for a long time but cynically thought it would be a waste of my time. Seeing the agreeable reactions to it however my faith in this fanbase is restored. Again, thank you. If you don't have shadows you're not standing in the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Educate us Queen In all seriousness @wahkeenasitka, I agree with all of your points (even though I myself am guilty as charged of being impatient about new Gaga music) and I think your post belongs on the front page of this website. Awwwwwww shucks, thanks Sweetie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, wahkeenasitka said: you really need to back off and quit complaining and prepare to be blown away when the exquisite fruit of her next album, her next masterpiece has been truly ripened and is ready to present to the world in full glory. "ripened" This quote is the pinnacle of the OP for me. Preach, my friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homomo 23,883 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Best post this year 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, ReidOne said: "ripened" This quote is the pinnacle of the OP for me. Preach, my friend! 2 minutes ago, Interstellar said: Best post this year Awwwww shucks you guys, feeling the love from you all. Glad my post is being respectfully received Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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