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malazam
17 minutes ago, LG said:

Pop is very, very vast. Adele is considered pop! I don't believe we will hear electro-pop from Gaga any time soon but to think she will depart pop in its entirety is a little too far for now. 

I think in those interviews you speak of she's referring to manufactured dance-pop. Not pop in its entirety as a genre.

Pop changes everytime a chart is released...

Adele like you said, she's not pop but she made the GP fell in love with her, now, she's everywhere, she's pop! She made her way through pop with her art, so, that about Gaga quitting bc it condenses her creativity and artistic ideas it's bullshit.

The ones who do that are US 

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EssenceOfPop

This, in its entirety. Thank you for this. I mean, it's already beyond the point of desperation with some Monsters.

Let Gaga take her time.  Simple.

Through the fire; we're born again.
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Dangerous Man

Omg daddy, you nailed it! I HOPE this will calm those kids' tits now. Everything you said is meaningful, full of wisdom and truly inspiring.

:giveup:  :applause: 

"A little less conversation and a little more touch my body."
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I agree, but I can see downfall in her creativity ever since pre-ARTPOP era. It is concerning to me as a fan/customer coz it looks like the quality has been lost somewhere.

The long wait is concerning also because as her producers stated she still doesn't have concrete concept for the album. She started working on it very long ago so in sum it appears she is very uninspired. Thus the meltdowns - simple. I agree younger part of fanbase tend to disrespect Gaga, but at the same time Gaga's defenders seem to take the whole situation too personally. She doesn't perform well enough and she has all the resources in the world to assist her - just saying.

i think it's more about attachment to that habit of being a little monster, it's hard to let her go as she's alienating herself from us now, while in past she was with fans everyday.

But ofc she's not our slave so no fan is entitled to feel angry. It's just pity she decided to hibernate after such successful year as 2015. But again it's her business. I just worry her comeback will be a flop since everybody will forget about her.

 

 

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Mikey Monster

Yes thank u I agree 100 %!!! ❤️❤️❤️ It's refreshing hearing that through all the other **** on here :hug::hug::hug:

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wahkeenasitka
15 minutes ago, ReidOne said:

Thank you, @wahkeenasitka. One of the best posts I've read on here in ages. Agreed 1,000%. 

 

11 minutes ago, Batwings said:

Congratulations. You've just won Gaga Daily.  :hug:

In all seriousness, though, this is one of the most thoughtful, insightful posts on here in a LONG time. Thank you.

 

13 minutes ago, mariomania1234 said:

Masterful post. :giveup:

Thank you for that. 

And honestly this really is a normal album break for a pop star. I don't know why this site pushes the narrative that's it's abnormal and it's taking forever. 

Thank You!!!

And yes, I mean, I think it takes most artists at least a year, if not 2 years to make an album. We don't understand that fast often means sloppy, and if we want a truly impactful album - yes, quality will take time. So the fact that it's taking a while to complete is actually a GOOD sign. And yes, I think LMs need to get over that the frustration that it's taking forever. It took her at least a year to make "The Fame". 

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wahkeenasitka
3 minutes ago, Dangerous Man said:

Omg daddy, you nailed it! I HOPE this will calm those kids' tits now. Everything you said is meaning, full of wisdom and truly inspiring.

:giveup:  :applause: 

Thank You! :hor:

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Mister Gaga

@wahkeenasitka thank you so much for this. Not only about the gaga thing, but for sharing your experiences with us. Life itself, and personal development/evolution are things that are not-too-much talked about in the times we live. It's only about living without realising what we're doing, without realising how much a life should mean to us, and how much we wasted.

It's good to see someone who realizes about this stuff, i admire your maturity and knowledge :blush:

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wahkeenasitka

One last note: I don't think that people hit 30 years old and all of the sudden "grow up" and lose all their passion, wildness, free-spiritedness, and inspiration. Absolutely NOT. 

Artists especially get BETTER with age. Their mastery of their craft and their devotion to their passion, whatever their art is, usually improves and becomes more refined with time. 

I think of Gaga as a Real Artist with an absolute Devotion to self-mastery and her cultivation as an artist... So, I see her as a lifelong student of inspiration, passion, creativity, music and expression. She is in it for the long haul. I believe we will see dozens of albums from her before her body passes into infinity. 

Eventually, maybe when she's in her 50s and 60s, she might get a little boring. That's to be expected. 

But honestly - your 30s and your 40s are really your best decades as a mature human being and an artist. Because you're actually IMPROVING and refining, so long as you continue to practice, and work at your talent. 

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i was going to like your post, but then i saw that you liked the comment "don't waste your life wasting on a popstar." the fact that you agree with that, in my eyes, invalidates your entire post. for many monsters, she's not just a popstar: she saved people's lives. yes, it may sound delusional and cringeworthy, but it's true. there is a difference between liking/following a popstar and having someone with whom you share an emotional connection. that's friendship and, therefore, doesn't equal to wasting life on a popsar—it equals to cherishing that friendship. monsters wouldn't throw that friendship away. i know i wouldn't—and i know gagz wouldn't either. that's not what monsters do.

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malazam
3 minutes ago, wahkeenasitka said:

 

 

Thank You!!!

And yes, I mean, I think it takes most artists at least a year, if not 2 years to make an album. We don't understand that fast often means sloppy, and if we want a truly impactful album - yes, quality will take time. So the fact that it's taking a while to complete is actually a GOOD sign. And yes, I think LMs need to get over that the frustration that it's taking forever. It took her at least a year to make "The Fame". 

Unless you're Michael Jackson  :giveup:

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3 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said:

i was going to like your post, but then i saw that you liked the comment "don't waste your life wasting on a popstar." the fact that you agree with that, in my eyes, invalidates your entire post. for many monsters, she's not just a popstar: she saved people's lives. yes, it may sound delusional and cringeworthy, but it's true. there is a difference between liking/following a popstar and having someone with whom you share an emotional connection. that's friendship and, therefore, doesn't equal to wasting life on a popsar—it equals to cherishing that friendship. monsters wouldn't throw that friendship away. i know i wouldn't—and i know gagz wouldn't either. that's not what monsters do.

I think you and @wahkeenasitka are more likeminded than you are currently seeing. She/he is not saying that we are all "wasting" ourselves following Gaga, but simply saying that we should be HONORING our own individual, unique life experiences. And to allow ourselves to expend so much energy in anticipation for a pop album is a waste of that energy. There's nothing wrong with loving a pop star and crediting her for saving your life. But when you allow that love to become a source of anger and listless desire, you are losing sight of yourself. 

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EssenceOfPop
2 minutes ago, mic said:

I agree, but I can see downfall in her creativity ever since pre-ARTPOP era. It is concerning to me as a fan/customer coz it looks like the quality has been lost somewhere.

The long wait is concerning also because as her producers stated she still doesn't have concrete concept for the album. She started working on it very long ago so in sum it appears she is very uninspired. Thus the meltdowns - simple. I agree younger part of fanbase tend to disrespect Gaga, but at the same time Gaga's defenders seem to take the whole situation too personally. She doesn't perform well enough and she has all the resources in the world to assist her - just saying.

i think it's more about attachment to that habit of being a little monster, it's hard to let her go as she's alienating herself from us now, while in past she was with fans everyday.

But ofc she's not our slave so no fan is entitled to feel angry. It's just pity she decided to hibernate after such successful year as 2015. But again it's her business. I just worry her comeback will be a flop since everybody will forget about her.

 

 

Part of that alienation, is, I believe, very much to do so with HOW Monsters are treating her and her time to focus and dive into her art. I really do believe this, its why she's been so quiet. Boosted with the fact that its turning some of us against each other, bloods boiling, arguments, this is what she would hate to see.

SO MANY want quick, over produced, catchy bops, that sky rocket to number one on the charts, which I can understand, we want are Queen to Reign. I get it, and you know what, I do too. But Gaga, at this point in her career, is an IMPACT ARTIST. She has proven that with her art, she has the WHOLE PACKAGE. It's not all about the commercial success. It's how can you change the game, bend it to your own whim. She has. And she will again.

Some of us, just need to chill. We are so worried and in doubt and aggressive. It's honestly sad to see. I just feel like Gaga has shut herself in her own world right now, I know she knows what's going on in the monster department. I really just hope it doesn't affect her too much. I want her to focus on her authentic and creative process. Remember, SHE is the artist, we are the audience.

I don't know, I juts felt like rambling. I'm just sick of this tension, with everything.

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12 minutes ago, mic said:

I agree, but I can see downfall in her creativity ever since pre-ARTPOP era. It is concerning to me as a fan/customer coz it looks like the quality has been lost somewhere.

The long wait is concerning also because as her producers stated she still doesn't have concrete concept for the album. She started working on it very long ago so in sum it appears she is very uninspired. Thus the meltdowns - simple. I agree younger part of fanbase tend to disrespect Gaga, but at the same time Gaga's defenders seem to take the whole situation too personally. She doesn't perform well enough and she has all the resources in the world to assist her - just saying.

i think it's more about attachment to that habit of being a little monster, it's hard to let her go as she's alienating herself from us now, while in past she was with fans everyday.

But ofc she's not our slave so no fan is entitled to feel angry. It's just pity she decided to hibernate after such successful year as 2015. But again it's her business. I just worry her comeback will be a flop since everybody will forget about her.

 

 

This!

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wahkeenasitka
1 minute ago, skeleton.gun said:

i was going to like your post, but then i saw that you liked the comment "don't waste your life wasting on a popstar." the fact that you agree with that, in my eyes, invalidates your entire post. for many monsters, she's not just a popstar: she saved people's lives. yes, it may sound delusional and cringeworthy, but it's true. there is a difference between liking/following a popstar and having someone with whom you share an emotional connection. that's friendship and, therefore, doesn't equal to wasting life on a popsar—it equals to cherishing that friendship. monsters wouldn't throw that friendship away. i know i wouldn't—and i know gagz wouldn't either. that's not what monsters do.

You're talking to someone who has been a devoted admirer of dozens of musicians, artists and performers throughout my life. Most of the musicians that I listen to, I am actually intimate friends with, and know personally. 

And other artists, like Bjork, Ani DiFranco and PJ Harvey or authors like Martin Prechtel - well, I would love to meet them - and yes, their music has changed my life and especially in the case of Ani DiFranco & Martin Prechtel - their presence in my life has profoundly impacted my life. 

But yes, we should never waste our life waiting for the next album. That's just a waste of time. But I would literally show up at the record store at midnight to buy the newest album when it dropped, back when you actually bought CDs. 

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