ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 58 minutes ago, Ronk said: Gaga is maturing and exploring new things. She is very creative and has the capacity for many talents, some of which she may not have discovered yet. So she might as well try everything while she's only 30. We may see rock, broadway, starring roles in movies, and who knows what else ... anything. She tells her fans they are superstars, they will "sing and dance", they have greatress within them. She inspires others to find their talents. It's time for her fans to encourage her to try everything and wish her all the best. Time to unchain her from demands that limit her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The op is great. I have one thought to add. Yes, Gaga is evolving and changing, but one thing has never changed: Her passion and personal quest to help people. She does it in many ways and she does it though personal involvement. She leverages her reach to change the world. Interviews during the Fame Era reveal her commitment to help people even back then. She may change professionaly, but her goodness and kindness is who she is as a person and will never change. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbcherry 591 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I am 31. My 1st music love was Tori Amos, also Sarah, Ani.... Great post. You got me really hyped! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ronk said: The op is great. I have one thought to add. Yes, Gaga is evolving and changing, but one thing has never changed: Her passion and personal quest to help people. She does it in many ways and she does it though personal involvement. She leverages her reach to change the world. Interviews during the Fame Era reveal her commitment to help people even back then. She may change professionaly, but her goodness and kindness is who she is as a person and will never change. Agreed. I'm out of "likes" for the day, so I have to reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, llbcherry said: I am 31. My 1st music love was Tori Amos, also Sarah, Ani.... Great post. You got me really hyped! +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 this post was much needed because that other one felt like a pretentious lecture very very much agree but now im insecure im wasting my 20s https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexxx 1,393 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 very well said All I ever wanted was 🅻🅾🆅🅴 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 This is a really great post. Do you have any other insights about aging you would like to share? I feel like nobody ever talks about thus stuff in "real life". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Oh my god. Drag ha and ha thread to filth I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, mic said: I agree, but I can see downfall in her creativity ever since pre-ARTPOP era. It is concerning to me as a fan/customer coz it looks like the quality has been lost somewhere. The long wait is concerning also because as her producers stated she still doesn't have concrete concept for the album. She started working on it very long ago so in sum it appears she is very uninspired. Thus the meltdowns - simple. I agree younger part of fanbase tend to disrespect Gaga, but at the same time Gaga's defenders seem to take the whole situation too personally. She doesn't perform well enough and she has all the resources in the world to assist her - just saying. i think it's more about attachment to that habit of being a little monster, it's hard to let her go as she's alienating herself from us now, while in past she was with fans everyday. But ofc she's not our slave so no fan is entitled to feel angry. It's just pity she decided to hibernate after such successful year as 2015. But again it's her business. I just worry her comeback will be a flop since everybody will forget about her. we have no clue how creative she is in the studio... She could dress up... go naked... do all sorts of "weird", for lack of a better word, things that we have no clue about. What makes you think she's not as creative as she used to be? Her clothes? I just never noticed her being any less creative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucastecala 795 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, wahkeenasitka said: Dear Little Monsters, I realize that many of you are young. I realize that I am a bit older than the majority of LM's on this site (I'll be turning 37 in a few months - so I have a wee bit of perspective now on the aging / maturation process.) When I see threads like this: I really just feel like you don't get it. And here's what I feel like you don't get: Human beings & especially Artists go through phases of their lives. They grow up. They evolve. They mature. Gaga just turned 30. Just Dance came out 8 years ago, when she was 22. She probably recorded "The Fame" when she was 21. Speaking for myself and having witnessed a lot of other people go through their twenties, your early to mid twenties are a Peak Phase of your life. It is only lived once. I think from about 21 to 28 or 29, you have a peak developmental phase of extreme amounts of risk taking, recklessness, creativity, restlessness, confusion, experimentation, drug & sex exploration, and rampant narcissism. It's a phase. It's a FABULOUS phase, don't get me wrong. But it is a phase, and as you grow up, as you mature into yourself as an adult, your early to mid twenties becomes a bookmark in your life of all the things that were the best, most exciting, most creatively exploratory, self-indulgent, confused and crazy times of your life... Never to be repeated again. You learned your lessons during that peak developmental phase of your life. You learned that XYZ were things that really don't work for you, and you learn about yourself, you learn about yourself as an artist, you learn about your strength, the character of your spirit, and the inexhaustible flame of your passion.... I think this is especially true for an artist like Gaga. While most of you have been complaining about how LONG it is taking for Gaga to produce LG5, and most of you have been complaining about Gaga's romance with Jazz and her C2C phase - I believe this is actually all a sign that her next album is going to be a masterpiece and is going to be her best, most definitive statement as an artist in her life yet - because she has gone through all the extreme narcissistic, super indulgent egomaniac phases of her wild 20s. She has gone through the self-destructive phases and is maturing into an exquisite human being and an impeccable vocalist / artist / performer. What I believe she has done over the last few years is exceptionally wise - to remove herself from the pop shlock machine, and really focus on her self-cultivation, her physical health, her physical stamina, and mastery over herself as an artist and vocalist. We all know that Gaga is a masterful vocalist and performer, but IT TAKES A LONG TIME to create an exceptional body of work, especially an album that is going to have a truly meaningful impact. If all you want is Gaga to churn out mediocre song after mediocre song, then yeah - keep complaining and keep whining about how it's taking too long. But if you want Gaga to show the world she is a masterful, unstoppable tour-de-force - then you really need to back off and quit complaining and prepare to be blown away when the exquisite fruit of her next album, her next masterpiece has been truly ripened and is ready to present to the world in full glory. The pop music industry is fickle, and there is a lot we as fans and observers of the industry don't understand. But there's one thing that I do understand, it's that an artist needs to be Completely In Touch With Their Inner Muse and not be swayed and manipulated by their fans. The only way for Gaga to have any actual success with her next album, and not create another "Artflop" (i hate that term too) - is for her to be so deeply in tune with her inner muse and let this album be an embodiment of this current developmental phase. Perhaps she has moved out of the mediocre phase, perhaps she has moved out of the profoundly narcissistic / self-indulgent / self-destructive phase. Perhaps she is really ready to show us her mastery. That's what I truly believe. So please. Please! Stop with the complaining. Stop with the whining. Be patient. Listen to other music in the meantime. And just be ready for Gaga to blow us all away when the time is right. ---- Edited: One last note: I don't think that people hit 30 years old and all of the sudden "grow up" and lose all their passion, wildness, free-spiritedness, and inspiration. Absolutely NOT. Artists especially get BETTER with age. Their mastery of their craft and their devotion to their passion, whatever their art is, usually improves and becomes more refined with time. I think of Gaga as a Real Artist with an absolute Devotion to self-mastery and her cultivation as an artist... So, I see her as a lifelong student of inspiration, passion, creativity, music and expression. She is in it for the long haul. I believe we will see dozens of albums from her before her body passes into infinity. Eventually, maybe when she's in her 50s and 60s, she might get a little boring. That's to be expected. But honestly - your 30s and your 40s are really your best decades as a mature human being and an artist. 4 hours ago, wahkeenasitka said: Dear Little Monsters, I realize that many of you are young. I realize that I am a bit older than the majority of LM's on this site (I'll be turning 37 in a few months - so I have a wee bit of perspective now on the aging / maturation process.) When I see threads like this: I really just feel like you don't get it. And here's what I feel like you don't get: Human beings & especially Artists go through phases of their lives. They grow up. They evolve. They mature. Gaga just turned 30. Just Dance came out 8 years ago, when she was 22. She probably recorded "The Fame" when she was 21. Speaking for myself and having witnessed a lot of other people go through their twenties, your early to mid twenties are a Peak Phase of your life. It is only lived once. I think from about 21 to 28 or 29, you have a peak developmental phase of extreme amounts of risk taking, recklessness, creativity, restlessness, confusion, experimentation, drug & sex exploration, and rampant narcissism. It's a phase. It's a FABULOUS phase, don't get me wrong. But it is a phase, and as you grow up, as you mature into yourself as an adult, your early to mid twenties becomes a bookmark in your life of all the things that were the best, most exciting, most creatively exploratory, self-indulgent, confused and crazy times of your life... Never to be repeated again. You learned your lessons during that peak developmental phase of your life. You learned that XYZ were things that really don't work for you, and you learn about yourself, you learn about yourself as an artist, you learn about your strength, the character of your spirit, and the inexhaustible flame of your passion.... I think this is especially true for an artist like Gaga. While most of you have been complaining about how LONG it is taking for Gaga to produce LG5, and most of you have been complaining about Gaga's romance with Jazz and her C2C phase - I believe this is actually all a sign that her next album is going to be a masterpiece and is going to be her best, most definitive statement as an artist in her life yet - because she has gone through all the extreme narcissistic, super indulgent egomaniac phases of her wild 20s. She has gone through the self-destructive phases and is maturing into an exquisite human being and an impeccable vocalist / artist / performer. What I believe she has done over the last few years is exceptionally wise - to remove herself from the pop shlock machine, and really focus on her self-cultivation, her physical health, her physical stamina, and mastery over herself as an artist and vocalist. We all know that Gaga is a masterful vocalist and performer, but IT TAKES A LONG TIME to create an exceptional body of work, especially an album that is going to have a truly meaningful impact. If all you want is Gaga to churn out mediocre song after mediocre song, then yeah - keep complaining and keep whining about how it's taking too long. But if you want Gaga to show the world she is a masterful, unstoppable tour-de-force - then you really need to back off and quit complaining and prepare to be blown away when the exquisite fruit of her next album, her next masterpiece has been truly ripened and is ready to present to the world in full glory. The pop music industry is fickle, and there is a lot we as fans and observers of the industry don't understand. But there's one thing that I do understand, it's that an artist needs to be Completely In Touch With Their Inner Muse and not be swayed and manipulated by their fans. The only way for Gaga to have any actual success with her next album, and not create another "Artflop" (i hate that term too) - is for her to be so deeply in tune with her inner muse and let this album be an embodiment of this current developmental phase. Perhaps she has moved out of the mediocre phase, perhaps she has moved out of the profoundly narcissistic / self-indulgent / self-destructive phase. Perhaps she is really ready to show us her mastery. That's what I truly believe. So please. Please! Stop with the complaining. Stop with the whining. Be patient. Listen to other music in the meantime. And just be ready for Gaga to blow us all away when the time is right. ---- Edited: One last note: I don't think that people hit 30 years old and all of the sudden "grow up" and lose all their passion, wildness, free-spiritedness, and inspiration. Absolutely NOT. Artists especially get BETTER with age. Their mastery of their craft and their devotion to their passion, whatever their art is, usually improves and becomes more refined with time. I think of Gaga as a Real Artist with an absolute Devotion to self-mastery and her cultivation as an artist... So, I see her as a lifelong student of inspiration, passion, creativity, music and expression. She is in it for the long haul. I believe we will see dozens of albums from her before her body passes into infinity. Eventually, maybe when she's in her 50s and 60s, she might get a little boring. That's to be expected. But honestly - your 30s and your 40s are really your best decades as a mature human being and an artist. Because you're actually IMPROVING and refining, so long as you continue to practice, and work at your talent. Because you're actually IMPROVING and refining, so long as you continue to practice, and work at your talent. Can this be the new Bible. Cause, baby, all I wanna say is: AMEN. 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Twitter 14 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Batwings said: Congratulations. You've just won Gaga Daily. In all seriousness, though, this is one of the most thoughtful, insightful posts on here in a LONG time. Thank you. This! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bromance 5,809 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Excellent post, @wahkeenasitka!! It's refreshing to see a level-headed post that spreads positivity in the midst of all the anger, fear and confusion that has gotten ahold of GGD. I don't care what you think about unless it is about me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyaKara 2,281 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Wenli said: That's a very high compliment. I hope it comes to fruition. Definitely. The performance art that Gaga did at the beginning of the ARTPOP era is only the beginning. I'm very excited for the rest of her career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Katie14 said: This is a really great post. Do you have any other insights about aging you would like to share? I feel like nobody ever talks about thus stuff in "real life". hahahaha...... huh. what kind of insights would you like to know? DO YOGA. EAT HEALTHY FOOD. TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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