TMZ: Vanessa Paradis defends Johnny Depp

[lego 44,165]

4 minutes ago, PopBitch said:

I was talking about his "wife," the one in his early 20s.  Vanessa was not his wife.

The trashing the hotel rooms showed he wasn't the zen guy they are saying.

 

I like Johnny, a fan.  I'm not a big fan of Amber.  But i find it laughable when people totally discount everything she says.   The spousal support is temporary until they work out their divorce settlement.  It's a legal thing her attorney would ask for, and it has to be done then, can't be asked for later.  Fifty thousand is a drop in the bucket, nothing ot Johnny, not an astronomical amount at all, and would only be temporarily.

 

Anyway, does that discount that the abuse happened?  It doesn't matter how short their marriage was, by law she's entitled to half of what he made during the marriage, which is huge, and she probably won't walk away with all of that., but a great settlement.  But my point is she is in a good position since they have no pre-nup.  She doesn't have to make up abuse.

 

She asked for their house, two dogs, spousal support and attorney fees. 

She's a successful model and actress, why does she want all that? Why now when he's mother died, he's busy on tour and upcoming movie, we didn't even hear his side of the story yet.

He can't defend himself. I'll just wait for the next month, you can say whatever you want. 

 

[PopBitch 1,218]

2 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

She asked for their house, two dogs, spousal support and attorney fees. 

She's a successful model and actress, why does she want all that? Why now when he's mother died, he's busy on tour and upcoming movie, we didn't even hear his side of the story yet.

He can't defend himself. I'll just wait for the next month, you can say whatever you want. 

 

He would always pay her attorney fees..  That's the way it's done, nothing out of the ordinary.  I work in the legal system.  Those kinds of things are normal to put in there.

 

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4 hours ago, jojuun said:

Apart from allegation, he doesn't look bad here. He's 52, he doesn't look like drug addict at all. 

[Gardevoir 9,823]

This is weird. I always thought Amber Heard was a declared lesbian. 

[lego 44,165]

2 hours ago, PopBitch said:

He would always pay her attorney fees..  That's the way it's done, nothing out of the ordinary.  I work in the legal system.  Those kinds of things are normal to put in there.

 

 

Judge denied all her requests except restraining order. 

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

This actually makes me kinda sick that his exes would vouch for him like this when they know nothing about what went on in a relationship that they were not part of. Some people are nice to some of their partners, horrible to others for whatever reason. Abusers aren't always abusers from the get go, internalised feelings can build up and explode on a partner later down the road. Alcohol and drug abuse can play a massive role in how you treat your partner. Men who get with much younger women have a higher liklihood of treating them badly because they can manipulate and use them better than a more experienced woman their own age. In times like this, exes need to stand back and realise that they may have dodged a bullet and consider that the man they once loved may have changed in the years since they were apart. Don't go against another woman just because you're bitter your relationship didn't last and you want to get one up on her.

By the way, I quite like Johnny as an actor and I have no feelings about Amber, although from what I've seen, she's not much of an actress and gets by on her looks. But I'm still allowing her to be believed. We're so doubtful when a woman is young and beautiful, I've noticed. A lot of celebrities can be monsters behind closed doors and it's sad when we find out, but the truth must prevail.

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3 hours ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

So your evidence is bad picture of a 52 year old man who gained some weight?

This is also Depp from earlier this month

 

He was an alcohol & coke addict 20 years ago with Kate Moss, yet those were the best years when it comes to his looks. And there were no reports of abuse from her.

So photos like that don't mean anything.

Even if he's not healthy, it doesn't mean he's abusive and wife beater.

There are inconsistencies when it comes to description of his character, all his exes agree that he's never hit a woman, that he's sensitive and caring. Vanessa could be bitter because he left her for Amber, yet she chose to defend him. On other hand Amber claims he's paranoid and has bad temper and "short fuse", total opposite of what other women are saying, who spent a lot more time of their lives with him. 

Police didn't see signs of injury AND Amber didn't want to make crime report that Saturday, why is that? 

 

 

 

 

 

People changes, the fact that they LIVED with him for many years doesn't justify the possibility of him becoming a different person, my grandfather was a fine man b4 his illness then suddenly he bested my grandmother. Also lots victims( in many other cases ) sometimes are too afraid to file report. Maybe she changed her mind afterward.

Just answering your question, both sides seem to be suspicious tbh, I will c how this case develop

[jojuun 4,159]

6 hours ago, RAMROD said:

 

You can just say several peoples have said on record all the time, where is it, what personal assistant,

who are these "several people", any names, any links to reports? Where?

Just cause YOU choose to ignore the links to the articles where that is reported, doesn't mean they're not posted in this very thread. You are just annoying me to the pits of hell right now so I'm going to let you be. I'm done. I can't reason with you.

5 hours ago, YourSweet666 said:

So your evidence is bad picture of a 52 year old man who gained some weight?

This is also Depp from earlier this month

He was an alcohol & coke addict 20 years ago with Kate Moss, yet those were the best years when it comes to his looks. And there were no reports of abuse from her.

So photos like that don't mean anything.

Even if he's not healthy, it doesn't mean he's abusive and wife beater.

There are inconsistencies when it comes to description of his character, all his exes agree that he's never hit a woman, that he's sensitive and caring. Vanessa could be bitter because he left her for Amber, yet she chose to defend him. On other hand Amber claims he's paranoid and has bad temper and "short fuse", total opposite of what other women are saying, who spent a lot more time of their lives with him. 

Police didn't see signs of injury AND Amber didn't want to make crime report that Saturday, why is that? 

He does NOT look good there either, he is a bloated mess. You Depp fans are so delusional. "He was an addict 20 years ago." SURE, JAN. Still is... There's blind people who can see that. I mean come on! "All of his exes agree he's never hit a woman." Again, that is your ASSUMPTION. He's known to break down hotel rooms and what do you know about his mental state? All those years of drugs and booze might have kicked in. Paranoia and anger are not permanent states people are in... Doesn't mean he hasn't had it recently.. 

She didn't file a report anytime, because he's HER HUSBAND. That's why domestic violence is so tricky... The person you love is doing it. Victims need days, weeks, months some even years before they can come to terms with something like that. You all need an education on the human psyche, I swear.

https://www.qld.gov.au/community/documents/getting-support-health-social-issue/dfv-report-vol-one.pdf

Anyway, I'm done replying to you people. Hopefully the court will do it's work and I hope you all shut the f*ck up if it turns out she WAS physically assaulted. People have just always made her out to be "the bitch" because she was the young bisexual actress who Johnny left Vanessa for. The main public has always disliked her. 

[Chelseaaaaaa 1,453]

This forum absolutely is terrible on women's issues. First Kesha, now Amber Heard. The only woman they ever believe over a man is Lady Gaga, apparently. Sad.

[BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454]

Disgusted at her and some people here who are in johnnys side

[Chelseaaaaaa 1,453]

I pointed out to a friend that Winona Ryder said her first boyfriend loved to scream and smash things when he got angry, and that she had a famous quote saying Depp was her "first everything." They still said she wasn't talking about him. Like how much do you want to defend this nicotine-soaked eyeliner bracelet bag that you've never met, and why? Now there's a vast amount of proof with Amber, yet people want to discredit her. FYI: JD said many times that Vanessa "calmed him down" a lot and he wasn't drugging then + his drinking had slowed down. Assuming she's not just defending him for the sake of their children, it is very possible she didn't deal with anything in comparison to Amber. At any rate, Hollywood has been protecting him for a very long time. It benefits everyone involved (excluding the women) to do so. I cannot fully explain just how brave Amber is. There are no words. Her career is over. Is that fair? No. But, regardless, I will be shocked if she ever has a big role again when this said and done. There will be producers and executives that feel bad for her – they may even believe her – yet choose not to work with her because too many people will view her as explosive or a risk to sign even though she did nothing to deserve that title. In reality, if anyone is “risky” or “explosive” it is Johnny. Instead? He’ll be labeled a tortured genius that went through a tough time. That’s it. He will always have his detractors now, and rightfully so, but it won’t be long before they are outnumbered. After a rehab stint and PR makeover, I expect Depp to give the performance of his career and win awards across the board. It worked for Sean Penn. It worked for Gary Oldman. It worked for Mickey Rourke. It worked for Josh Brolin. Etc, etc. The list is endless.  I am sure Amber will be lucky to make solid independent films in a few years time. That may not sound so bad to some in hindsight but keep in mind she recently joined the ‘Aquaman’ cast yet probably won’t be offered to extended her contract. He’s rewarded (even now!) but she’s punished. Johnny is now a brooding, misunderstood bachelor and Amber is the manipulative, money-hungry b*tch. What a world we live in, huh?

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Keep in mind he DOES have a history of violence... he's been arrested at least 3x for it:
- arrested for assaulting a security guard in Canada in 89
- arrested on charges of criminal mischief in 94 for trashing a NYC hotel room during a violent fight with Kate Moss
- arrested for assaulting a paparazzi in London in 98
- both Kate & Winona have mentioned his violent behavior & penchant for breaking stuff during fights

Breaking stuff when he's angry around his past girlfriends is really indicative that he would've escalated and physically hit them. Breaking everything in a room and not touching the other person is basically saying, "look how destructive I am, think what I could do to you" to terrorize them. I can't say why he didn't harm them physically but I imagine many factors played a part. He did not need to hit Kate or Ryder to be abusive because there are other forms of it. It's very possible he has done the same to Heard but it escalated (well before the iPhone incident - which you would know if any of you read the court doc) and no longer had control. It's also important to not forget that "loving & sensitive" is coded language for controlling & highly temperamental 90% of the time.

Rapists don't rape every single person they meet. Serial killers don't murder every single person they meet. Abusers don't hit every single person they know. Ted Bundy had a couple long-term girlfriends that he never hurt in any way, but that doesn't change the heinous crimes he committed. People are not one dimensional. More likely than not, Depp is a multifaceted man that is capable of being a good father yet rotten husband to Amber. This is NOT a black or white situation.

Johnny Depp's camp haven't even blatantly denied a thing. The futile statement they're offering is he won't respond to "gossip" and "lies" about his private life. They have created a huge smear campaign about Amber trotting out his friends/family to defend him and insinuating she pushed him to odd behavior due to her "evil" lesbian friends. There is no explanation for the other times this has happened or why he forced her to distance herself from fellow LGB+ women. That's not to mention his PR group leaked photos of her at Tiffany's so people would think a day after the filing she was splurging on herself (which shouldn't be a problem regardless) but the photos are a month old.

I'm not going to say anything else on the matter but I truly hope this forum looks into the case without media intervention. Do your own research. Ideally, I'd learn to support the victim until the accused is proven innocent. Solidarity is so important. You are not making it easy for other women to come forward in and out of Hollywood. Regardless of how you view Amber Heard she did EVERYTHING domestic abuse victims are told to yet people are relentlessly attacking her because the abuser is a beloved figure in the entertainment industry. The abuse she suffers doesn’t end with Depp either because she is being judged by the media, mocked by his fans, and questioned by a broken system. And, quite honestly, her current actions are not indicative of someone after a huge payday. If she really wanted the money – above all – she wouldn’t have gotten the restraining order knowing it cannot be kept secret (after trying to handle this privately) nor allowed the court document to go public. Amber could have waited for the best monetary offer; particularly out of Disney due to the fact Depp has a movie opening this weekend. Johnny offered hush money and she declined so the conglomerate was prepared to step in and write her a check for at least $1m I'd imagine. No one is saying Heard is a perfect person but you don’t need to be without flaw to deserve respect and love.

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I know no one should comment on the situation, people can change, but...something seems sketchy. Next to the police report that happened *that* night and reporting no injuries or that the photos her friends took of her the following day with no injuries..

Right now I think people are over analyzing things because of these reports. At the end of the day, we don't know. It's wrong to say it DIDN'T happen but it's also wrong to say it DID happen. I don't want to live in a world that automatically sides with the woman. That's not ok. Right now, I don't know what to think, and I think that's the way it should stay.