Puddin 1,215 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 So sad I love visiting Mexico whenever I can. Friends and family live over there, I always worry about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 35,292 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I went to Mexico like 2 months ago and was somewhat nervous about everywhere I went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 well I've survived LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Goosey said: I'm not demonizing Mexico because there's some corruption "spilling over into the US". I'm demonizing Mexico because more than 150,000 people have been killed in 10 years For some of these people running away is their only chance. Yet you want to build a wall because..... it's really going to help less people to die? You understand that your argument is totally contradicting the justification to build a wall? If you said what the person mentioned "spilling over into the US", hence, bringing drug trafficking here, at least that would be a logical reason if debatable. But following your logic we should just confine them, so they stay in their "drug war" for sure, it's going to help them and the victim rate is going to drop. Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 5 hours ago, TiphEret said: For some of these people running away is their only chance. Yet you want to build a wall because..... it's really going to help less people to die? You understand that your argument is totally contradicting the justification to build a wall? If you said what the person mentioned "spilling over into the US", hence, bringing drug trafficking here, at least that would be a logical reason if debatable. But following your logic we should just confine them, so they stay in their "drug war" for sure, it's going to help them and the victim rate is going to drop. You're saying America should leave their border unsecured so aliens from Mexico or elsewhere can sneak across? "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, Goosey said: You're saying America should leave their border unsecured so aliens from Mexico or elsewhere can sneak across? Dude don't put words in my mouth, I have never say to not secure borders even though I couldn't care less but I know it's not good for immigrants to enter illegally so no I would not encourage that. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post, saying a wall is the solution because there are so many victims when a wall won't do **** for those victims and sometimes breaking the law by crossing illegally might be the only chance for them to be safe so I would put their life over a ****ing wall sorry. Also why do you care so much? You are afraid they will reach Canada Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, TiphEret said: Dude don't put words in my mouth, I have never say to not secure borders even though I couldn't care less but I know it's not good for immigrants to enter illegally so no I would not encourage that. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post, saying a wall is the solution because there are so many victims when a wall won't do **** for those victims and sometimes breaking the law by crossing illegally might be the only chance for them to be safe so I would put their life over a ****ing wall sorry. Also why do you care so much? You are afraid they will reach Canada The wall wouldn't help those people, but that's not the point of building it. The wall is not meant to make Mexico great again. Here in Canada we accept legal immigrants and refugees. Those in Syria for example. We don't have the same amount of immigration problems as America because we are not bordered with a third-world country. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 40 minutes ago, Goosey said: The wall wouldn't help those people, but that's not the point of building it. The wall is not meant to make Mexico great again. Here in Canada we accept legal immigrants and refugees. Those in Syria for example. We don't have the same amount of immigration problems as America because we are not bordered with a third-world country. But so why did you first complain about the victim stats and then conclude by we should build a wall Check your logic first. if you write such post people will think that this is linked together. yes i know the process very much I am an immigrant myself. Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 17 hours ago, llbcherry said: You are from Mexico? Yikes! It is even dangerous for YOU to travel around!? Wow... so you are saying the police are corrupt, too? 17 hours ago, Majora said: This is why I never wanna go to Mexico, I'll always feel like I'm in danger.. 17 hours ago, HOMODRAKE said: Mexico is in a really shitty state right now (well, has been for the last few decades). They seriously need some sort of revolution and regime change. Things are ****ing ridiculous there 17 hours ago, Goosey said: More people were killed in Mexico's drug war over the last decade than died in the 13-year war in Afghanistan! Easy there, you cant just judge by one side of the information, Ive lived in Meico City for 23 years, and I have never even been mugged, the same for my whole family and like 90% of the people I know It depends on the exact areas where you live in, who do you mess with, where do you go, just stay safe and you will be safe, Im not saying things arent ****ed up but its not like bullets are flying all over the place. Also, I wouldnt even dare to defend the government in the smallest way, but people here love to complain yet noone does anything and the common person is just as corrupt as the common politician. Also its not like the government can change everything in 5 minutes if people dont cooperate. So, stop satanizing the country just for some isolated cases, just like americans dont like the world to brand the whole US as racist egocentric mofos with a ****ed up police Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Goosey said: The wall wouldn't help those people, but that's not the point of building it. The wall is not meant to make Mexico great again. Here in Canada we accept legal immigrants and refugees. Those in Syria for example. We don't have the same amount of immigration problems as America because we are not bordered with a third-world country. So we should lead thousands of millions into death for our benefit even though we're not doing everything? Are Americans the only ones who matter? First you bring up thousands dying but that wall would raise the death rate with more people there, victims to the crime? Does Canada also leave the immigrants who applied for residency without a trace of information, those who applied since 2000? Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Adakam said: Easy there, you cant just judge by one side of the information, Ive lived in Meico City for 23 years, and I have never even been mugged, the same for my whole family and like 90% of the people I know It depends on the exact areas where you live in, who do you mess with, where do you go, just stay safe and you will be safe, Im not saying things arent ****ed up but its not like bullets are flying all over the place. Also, I wouldnt even dare to defend the government in the smallest way, but people here love to complain yet noone does anything and the common person is just as corrupt as the common politician. Also its not like the government can change everything in 5 minutes if people dont cooperate. So, stop satanizing the country just for some isolated cases, just like americans dont like the world to brand the whole US as racist egocentric mofos with a ****ed up police he's not even American, esa perra es de Canada, no le hagas caso 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, frankgutz said: he's not even American, esa perra es de Canada, no le hagas caso Lol, dont even get me started on Canadas stereotypes and how the world sees them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Adakam said: So, stop satanizing the country just for some isolated cases, just like americans dont like the world to brand the whole US as racist egocentric mofos with a ****ed up police "Isolated cases" and "160,000 deaths" don't go together. Anyways, I'm sure there are also peaceful places in Afghanistan or Sierra Leone. Still doesn't change the fact the country is plagued by violence and corruption. Police chiefs and politicians being assassinated, students being kidnapped and massacred... there was also a travel warning for tourists. In fact the US Government does not allow its employees to travel to Acapulco for any reason... and that's known as a tourist city. I'm not "Satanizing". It's a legitimate concern. I wouldn't travel there—so many safer options. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpAteMyHeart 312 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 OK I love Mexicans, great people, most of them, but this is why we need to secure our borders! We can't import this kind of second world foolishness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Goosey said: "Isolated cases" and "160,000 deaths" don't go together. Anyways, I'm sure there are also peaceful places in Afghanistan or Sierra Leone. Still doesn't change the fact the country is plagued by violence and corruption. Police chiefs and politicians being assassinated, students being kidnapped and massacred... there was also a travel warning for tourists. In fact the US Government does not allow its employees to travel to Acapulco for any reason... and that's known as a tourist city. I'm not "Satanizing". It's a legitimate concern. I wouldn't travel there—so many safer options. And I wouldnt study in the US because theres a school shooting like every two months.... Judge all you want, but if you dont live here, you cant really say much, again, I lived in Mexico city, all my life, and noone I know has ever been close to anything, dont wanna come here? your loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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