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Didymus
1 minute ago, Drunk Poet said:

Every post I read of yours is so childish and ignorant and you're telling me to grow up? Please. 

Yet I'm the one coming up with actual arguments. You're the one posting this ****:

"a bubblegum pop, radio, soccer mom-pandering mediocre singer"

"desperatw insecure mean girl"

"a plagiarizing mediocre talentless singer"

"overrated pandering safe virtually talentless singers"

I don't need to go there, nor do I need to break other artists down to let my fav shine brighter. When you're discussing subjects like the one you're discussing here, coming up with that idiotic bs just makes you look childish and ignorant so for your own sake, just don't.

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HighlandHeart
Just now, Didymus said:

"a true legendary icon who revolutionised the music industry forever?"

I'm assuming you meant she did that by herself.

I think they have followed her lead from mid-2009 until the end of 2010. And then Gaga stopped leading. Important to remember. The pop scene went in a different direction, mostly with Rihanna, Katy and now Beyoncé at the top. Gaga held on to her niche but I doubt you can find me a convincing example of Gaga impacting the music industry post-2010.

I'm not saying that makes her career less admirable or whatever. But when you're so adamant that a true legend is required to have revolutionized the entire music industry, I think you need to have more of an argument than "she inspired fellow pop stars to act and dress more weirdly for a while". Which in itself is not even that good of an argument because extravagant fashion and mv's had come and gone in the pop scene ever since the 80's indeed, but also in the early 00's. Gaga's reign simply embodies another wave like that. Now her reign is over though. So your argument doesn't stand, that's all I wanted to say.

For me, continuous exceptional commercial success is enough to qualify as a pop legend. You disagreed with that, I just don't like your arguments for that disagreement, that's all this discussion is about, I'm not criticizing Gaga or glorifying her competition. I just think it's dumb to deny Katy's status as a legendary pop icon just because you think Gaga's more creative. That has nothing to do with it imo.

Exactly my point. I make a point, and then you twist it and assume that it's something else. Absolutely disgraceful. 

Commercial success makes you a legend? Wow. I'm putting you on my ignore list now because your sheer ignorance is bordering on insanity and it makes me cringe. 

You are so ignorant it actually hurts. That's not shade, that's the truth, I feel genuinely depressed after reading that. You're forgetting that electronic dance music wasn't as huge as it is now before Gaga blew up. That's why it took so long for her to get Just Dance on the radio. Even heavy metal bands have stated she's revolutionised the music industry forever, and if you can't see that there is really no hope for your knowledge on pop culture. I obviously didn't mean simply through "weird", as you call it, costumes. Your audacity and ignorance is so morose.  

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Didymus
1 minute ago, A Gaga Lad said:

Well a number of artists started to feature art more prominently into their works after ARTPOP. Britney expressed desire to make an "artsy-fartsy" album. Rihanna included some powerful visual art in ANTi. Miley's Dead Petz had visuals very similar to Gaga's aphrodite and even dreads/rave concept.

I'm not saying Gaga invented these things--but those I've stated happened too close after ARTPOP.

Well, I never got that argument since Gaga had already featured extravagant visuals in her work since 2009. So I'm a bit hesitant in attributing that stuff to ARTPOP specifically and not to Gaga's earlier work, you get what I'm saying? Esp. since the ARTPOP era actually had significantly less 'artsy' visuals than her previous era's :emma:

Anyway, I don't deny she's had impact in these later years. But so have other pop artists in their own way. And I feel like it's not a cool trend here for people to act like Gaga's the only one who's caused a wave in the scene, a wave that supposedly kept on crashing in contrast to her competition. That's just not true.

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OBEY
47 minutes ago, Drunk Poet said:

What taste? It was entirely tastless. And go back and read my edit. How on earth can you call yourself a Gaga fan?

I am a Lady Gaga fan.

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HighlandHeart
2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Yet I'm the one coming up with actual arguments. You're the one posting this ****:

"a bubblegum pop, radio, soccer mom-pandering mediocre singer"

"desperatw insecure mean girl"

"a plagiarizing mediocre talentless singer"

"overrated pandering safe virtually talentless singers"

I don't need to go there, nor do I need to break other artists down to let my fav shine brighter. When you're discussing subjects like the one you're discussing here, coming up with that idiotic bs just makes you look childish and ignorant so for your own sake, just don't.

You're hilarious. Actually hilarious. Don't you dare call me ignorant, you're deflecting all your own faults on to me. I've presented many many arguments based in fact, in this one and others. You have given nothing of the sort. Who are you trying to fool? 

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Didymus
1 minute ago, Drunk Poet said:

Exactly my point. I make a point, and then you twist it and assume that it's something else. Absolutely disgraceful. 

Commercial success makes you a legend? Wow. I'm putting you on my ignore list now because your sheer ignorance is bordering on insanity and it makes me cringe. 

You are so ignorant it actually hurts. That's not shade, that's the truth, I feel genuinely depressed after reading that. You're forgetting that electronic dance music wasn't as huge as it is now before Gaga blew up. That's why it took so long for her to get Just Dance on the radio. Even heavy metal bands have stated she's revolutionised the music industry forever, and if you can't see that there is really no hope for your knowledge on pop culture. I obviously didn't mean simply through "weird", as you call it, costumes. Your audacity and ignorance is so morose.  

Cackling.

The same old tired arguments with some "that's not shade, that's the truth" delusion. I'll happily feature on your ignore list. Clearly there's no way to have an honest conversation with you.

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light up a bit everyone we are on a pop star online forum 

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AlexanderLevi2
On May 24, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Baby Blue said:

you probably haven't listened to her discography sans the singles :rip: 

Cute use of "sans" :poot:

But I've listened to her entire discography and yes, they are all just catchy pop tunes :air: Barely any essence to the album.

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HighlandHeart
Just now, Didymus said:

Cackling.

The same old tired arguments with some "that's not shade, that's the truth" delusion. I'll happily feature on your ignore list. Clearly there's no way to have an honest conversation with you.

Honest? Please. I already told you you've twisted and assumed always the worst about me and you dare mention the word honest? You can't even argue back, all you can do is "cackle", which is just as well as your cackle also is grounded in insecurity and pretentiousness. For your own sake, educate yourself. I'm done trying to debate with children.  

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AlexanderLevi2
1 minute ago, Drunk Poet said:

Honest? Please. I already told you you've twisted and assumed always the worst about me and you dare mention the word honest? You can't even argue back, all you can do is "cackle", which is just as well as your cackle also is grounded in insecurity and pretentiousness. For your own sake, educate yourself. I'm done trying to debate with children.  

"Don't patronize me" :air:

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HighlandHeart
2 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

"Don't patronize me" :air:

Oh go away. 

Where did I say that here? Where? You're so insulting and disparaging. Mocking someone is really intelligent isn't it? Please. 

I've told people to stop patronising me who happen to be the same people who patronise me. I don't know what your ****ing problem is. 

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AlexanderLevi2
1 minute ago, Drunk Poet said:

Oh go away. 

Add me to your ignore list and remember when you were going to report me :air::air::air::air:

You are all talk.

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AlexanderLevi2
8 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Cackling.

The same old tired arguments with some "that's not shade, that's the truth" delusion. I'll happily feature on your ignore list. Clearly there's no way to have an honest conversation with you.

:tea:

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HighlandHeart
2 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

Add me to your ignore list and remember when you were going to report me :air::air::air::air:

You are all talk.

You're ridiculous and just sad. Very, very sad.

All you do is misquote me for your own ends and it's disgusting. You think people can't see it? You're embarassing yourself. 

And funny you should mention that because right before you made this senseless comment I did report you. For mocking me. You're nothing but a sad bully whose misquoting and disparaging comments have no substance at all. Get a ****ing life.  

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