Hillary Clinton: End The Criminalization Of HIV

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

5 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

 

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I've had a theory recently that he's not genuinely a Clinton supporter, but likes to emphatically give her support simply because he knows its a springboard to engage in tons of arguments/debates

 

 

[Tokyo Rose 1,475]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Where'd you get off making that assumption?

I live in Boston. 

I stand corrected, but I think you know where I got that assumption from 

 

[Redstreak 6,653]

1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said:

Whether you live in Boston or Lebanon my only half serious post still stands :gayb2: I mean it's not a far fetched thing for people to do. Goosey doesn't believe half of what he posts but he knows saying it will get people responding to him

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, Tokyo Rose said:

I stand corrected, but I think you know where I got that assumption from 

 

Well I find it odd that you felt compelled to make that statement when you don't even know me.

See you around  

[Tresor 1,649]

10 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Where'd you get off making that assumption?

I live in Boston.  

jesus, we live in a 2 mile radius from one another, maybe we really should hate ****

[Redstreak 6,653]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well I find it odd that you felt compelled to make that statement when you don't even know me.

See you around  

Your profile literally says the country your from is Lebanon

[Tokyo Rose 1,475]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well I find it odd that you felt compelled to make that statement when you don't even know me.

See you around  

It's just that, when I see any Hillary supporter, it feels like the twilight zone to me.

As President, her husband knowingly lied under oath and on television to the American people.

It going to be a long 6 months

 

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Your profile literally says the country your from is Lebanon

Yeah I was born and raised there. Been living in the USA for 7 years.  

[Redstreak 6,653]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Yeah I was born and raised there. Been living in the USA for 7 years.  

Ok  but with only the former to go on it's weird to be perturbed that someone would have that assumption as if it's the craziest thing  

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, Tokyo Rose said:

It's just that, when I see any Hillary supporter, it feels like the twilight zone to me.

As President, her husband knowingly lied under oath and on television to the American people.

What does her husband have to do with her  

You going to berate Sanders because his wife bankrupted Burlington College and was investigated for fraud?

Of course not.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

6 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Ok  but with only the former to go on it's weird to be perturbed that someone would have that assumption as if it's the craziest thing  

I'm not irritated that someone assumed I'm not from the USA. I'm annoyed that someone mocked me for supposedly being ignorant and essentially a bot who talks without understanding the situation.

Even if I supposedly didn't live in the USA, is one incapable of understanding context and situations by educating themselves?

The reason I'm not negative towards Hillary is exactly because I was not influenced by the GOP-infested lies many of you have been exposed to. I've seen and experienced what actual political corruption is in Lebanon. I've read and studied American history because I want to become part of it, and yes  I've even read yellow journalism to get those people's point of view.

This is borderline xenophobic just saying 

[Redstreak 6,653]

1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said:

I'm not irritated that someone assumed I'm not from the USA. I'm annoyed that someone mocked me for supposedly being ignorant and essentially a bot who talks without understanding the situation.

Even if I supposedly didn't live in the USA, is one incapable of understanding context and situations by educating themselves?

The reason I'm not negative towards Hillary is exactly because I was not influenced by the GOP-infested lies many of you have been exposed to. I've read and studied American history because I want to become part of it, and yes  I've even read yellow journalism to get those people's point of view.

Putting someone down like this is borderline xenophobic just saying 

I wouldn't argue that someone living outside the US bars them from having a grasp on its politics, but I would say it may prevent them from picking up on certain nuances and sentiments.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, Redstreak said:

I wouldn't argue that someone living outside the US bars them from having a grasp on its politics, but I would say it may prevent them from picking up on certain nuances and sentiments.

Perhaps, but they can also offer fresh perspectives not marred by experiential bias.

[MJHolland 12,725]

42 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well one can be aware of the risks (revealed beforehand) but still be able to sue you if HIV was contracted. That's one issue. 

Also negligence has a lot of grey area. At the moment HIV almost always loses cases unlike others which are dismissed or dropped.

There's a special kind of stigma associated with HIV despite it not being the worst disease out there anymore.

Clearly though, if someone was out there actively spreading HIV (these people exist) then they need to be prosecuted for intentionally infringing on public health.

Well every state has its own set of HIV laws, so we can't really talk about it and say "this is what happens in this scenario always."

I don't know of many or if any state prosecutes people for transmitting HIV of their partners are informed beforehand. I feel like any judge with a brain would drop that charge. That's not in the spirit of the law. 

I think if you have sex with someone and you don't tell them your HIV position, whether any virus is transmitted or not, you should go to jail. Sorry. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

5 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

I think if you have sex with someone and you don't tell them your HIV position, whether any virus is transmitted or not, you should go to jail. Sorry. 

Well do you hold that position for all diseases or just HIV?

The issue here is that HIV is treated far more harshly. All situations should be treated with the same amount of severity. Isolating HIV for no reason is not the way to go about it. So either make it a harsh crime for all severe diseases or be lax for all of them.