uo111 5,283 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The same people who think voted id laws meant to prevent voted fraud disenfranchise poor people also claim that Clinton is cheating the system. I thought we loved when the voting process wasn't regulated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 hours ago, LebaneseDude said: Well I don't think this particular accusation holds any merit. That's where we disagree. I think they are all worth looking into, to an extent. As you all know I'm not for or against anyone, so I'm not putting forth any conspiracy theories but it's just aggravating this stuff happens 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, AJH219 said: That's where we disagree. I think they are all worth looking into, to an extent. As you all know I'm not for or against anyone, so I'm not putting forth any conspiracy theories but it's just aggravating this stuff happens Did you look at the article? It's clear that this is nothing short of an agenda. It's trying to paint the issues as fraud by using complaints as justification. 25% of counties had some issues, with most issues involving questions on the proceedings. There is only one case of voting machine issues, which happens all the time, and one other complaint on electioneering, a likely isolated incident. There is no merit to this particular case. There may be corruption, of that there is no doubt, but pointing fingers every time something doesn't go one's way is not the way to go about things, especially when one has to sensationalize details and fabricate rationalizations. ----- A general observation: I find it very odd that people are so adamant on implying there is corruption when Bernie is clearly doing very well considering his position. Honestly this race has been really fair from the get go. The superdelegates are ultimately going to be irrelevant, and the will of the people dictates Clinton is the preferred Democratic nominee, irrespective of what may or may not be the optimal choice, by a very large margin particularly among less represented folk such as minorities and women. The rules have been set for 30+ years now. If the system is "rigged" against an Independent, then that's only because this is a Democratic primary. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Bernie actually won in all those counties... Boyd County: Bernie wins by 1.5 points~ Floyd County: Bernie wins by 23 points~ Johnson County: Bernie wins by 22 points~ Pike County: Bernie wins by 28 points~ Rowan County: Bernie wins by 7 points~ So I'm guessing it was Bernie supporters committing "ELECTION FRAUD" Thanks for posting this. But to be honest.. this isn't "Election Fraud" so the article's inflammatory headline is there for clickbait, and OBVIOUSLY people fell for it. Ironic how the "fraud" benefited him. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sometimes I wished people actually READ the articles they post and actually RESEARCHED it's content before posting and commenting on them. 76 calls mainly asking PROCEDURAL questions is NOT "election fraud." Here's an article that actually RESEARCHED these allegations: Boyd County’s County Clerk Debbie Jones was quick to clarify that the report about her county was wrong. “There were no reports of election fraud in Boyd County last night,” she said over the phone. She explained she spoke to her representative in the Attorney General’s office who said that he was contacting media to explain that the report was inaccurate and give updated information. WSAZ said that of the 31 counties, Boyd, Floyd, Johnson, Rowan and Pike reported voter fraud. Jones was told by the AG’s office that there was only one case of voter fraud and that it was in Pikeville, where, as WSAZ reported, there were procedural questions and questions about an election official reported. Courier-Journal reporter Thomas Loftus tweeted Tuesday night that the AG’s office also received a call alleging vote buying in Breathitt County. Pike County Clerk Rhonda Taylor did not immediately return our calls for additional questions. The Attorney General Beshear’s spokesman told Raw Story in an email, “The office, by law, cannot provide details regarding specific complaints or possible pending investigations, but we take each complaint seriously.” Jones explained that anything that is a violation of election law is considered “voter fraud.” Whether it’s keeping someone from voting, a misplaced yard sign or even electronic voting machines not working, all of them could be considered “voter fraud” under the law. Thus, any complaint is filed under “allegations of voter fraud.” The Floyd County clerk’s office acknowledged via phone that there was a case reported of electioneering in their county, where someone placed campaign materials too close to a polling location, but it was hardly a case of someone not saying who they say they are or voting machines stealing votes. A similar case was also reported in Jefferson County by someone who called the Attorney General’s election hotline. Only 20 percent of Kentucky’s registered voters showed up to the polls last night and Beshear’s office confirmed 76 total calls to the hotline from 31 counties. In a press release sent last week, Beshear even inspired the calls. “I want to encourage voters to be our eyes and ears in the polling places and report any election irregularities to our hotline.” They clearly were. According to the release from the Beshear’s office, this was the full list of complaints: Anderson County: Procedural question Barren County: Procedural question Bath County: Procedural question Boone County: Voter identification Bourbon County: Voter assistance Boyd County: Voting machine Boyle County: Procedural question Breathitt County: (five calls) four vote buying/selling, and one procedural question Calloway County: (two calls) Procedural questions Campbell County: Procedural question Clark County: Procedural question Daviess County: Voter assistance Fayette County: (nine calls) Seven procedural questions, one residency and one voter assistance Floyd County: (two calls) Special or absentee ballot and one electioneering within 100 feet of polls Franklin County: Procedural question Hardin County: (two calls) Procedural questions Harrison County: Election official Jefferson County: (25 calls): 10 procedural questions, four legal questions, three voting machine, two election official, two electioneering within 100 feet of polls, two vote buying/selling, one voter assistance and one disrupting polls Jessamine County: (two calls) Procedural question and voter assistance Johnson County: Procedural question Laurel County: Legal question Lincoln County: Procedural question Madison County: (three calls) Electioneering within 100 feet of polls and two procedural questions Morgan County: Legal question Oldham County: (two calls) Procedural question and election official Pike County: Election official Powell County: Voting machine Pulaski County: Procedural question Rockcastle County: Electioneering within 100 feet of polls Rowan County: (two calls) Election official and procedural question Shelby County: Procedural question One person calling from an unknown location: Legal question https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/31-kentucky-counties-investigated-election-fraud-but-that-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/ ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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