Bernie Sanders Could Still Win the Democratic Nomination — No, Seriously

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

44 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Who said I'm from a rural town? And your comment that someone from Canada won't know what happens in Massachusetts makes as much sense as saying someone from Massachusetts won't know what happens in California (or someone in Lebanon won't know what happens in Washington).

A lot of the hatred stems from the words coming out of her own mouth.

This is all the "propaganda" I need to read to be intense disgusted with her:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

 

 

.... I was making an example. I don't know where you're from. 

And yes someone in California won't necessarily know what's happening in Massachusetts, but at least they know what's happening in the same country. You apparently think the US is still having issues with same sex marriage, displaying a glaring misunderstanding of current issues and events. Get some context.

And stop justifying "from her own mouth" as if she's said or done anything that nobody has done before. The irony being above all else that you support Trump who actually insults people on a regular basis with that mouth of his.

Honestly just stop. Your opinions are remarkably misinformed. Trying to link me her website as propaganda just shows how hilariously biased you are. Even I have not yet quoted another candidate's web pages, because I know they're obviously trying to make themselves look good. I'm talking about propaganda from other media outlets, ones you just eat up without even trying to understand.

Whatever. I frankly don't even care that you're only supporting Trump because of his gun stance and how fun it is to watch him be a douche. Just don't come for Hillary when you know nada, or at the very least don't quote me when I don't quote you because we all know how it'll end with you just ignoring everything I say while failing to defend your candidate when put on the defensive because offensive is all you know and understand, literally and figuratively apparently.

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8 hours ago, Goosey said:

#NeverHillary

 

POLL: 45% of Bernie voters say they're #NeverHillary, 15% will vote for Trump

So then 40% goes to Hillary?

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

7 hours ago, Bernie Sanders said:

You aren't even mentioning stances. Just stereotypes. Bernie is the most leftist candidate. Search 2016 candidates political spectrum. You'll see. Obama, Biden, Clinton are all moderate right authoritarian. Bernies the most left candidate besides Stein we got.

Lol if this is true then she'll win the presidency with no problem. Many moderate Republican would rather vote for her than a leftist socialist President. Lol you guys keep shooting yourself in the foot. You guys have been mentioning polls since the beginning of the primary yet Hillary still won and Berine keeps losing. Bernie will lose the election despite what polls say.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 hour ago, ZacharyMark said:

So then 40% goes to Hillary?

Don't believe YouGov polls lol... they're based on membership not national populations. Also, they use online surveys only which inevitably leads to discrepancies given the demographic disparity of Internet users.

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1 hour ago, ZacharyMark said:

So then 40% goes to Hillary?

Don't believe it. That happens EVERY SINGLE TIME the primary season dies down. That's how many Hillary supporters said they would never support President Obama. Guess what? They did. Some won't vote for Hillary, but it's a very very small minuscule of the whole.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

4 hours ago, Whispering said:

Lol, I knew you woukd pull out the Hawaii argument. Bernie doesn't win the black and Latino vote, which are the minority blocks with major voting power. You are smart enough to know that. 

What about CLOSED v. OPEN contests? Well, out of the 35 contests thus far for democrats, 12 were caucuses, and 23 were primaries.

16 of those primaries were open, and 7 were closed.

3 caucuses were open, and 9 were closed.

Who won those?

Bernie has won: 7 closed caucuses, and 3 open caucuses. 2 closed primaries, and 3 open primaries.

Hillary has won: 2 closed caucuses, and 0 open caucuses. 5 closed primaries, and 13 open primaries.

Therefore:

9 of Bernie's 15 wins come from CLOSED states, be they caucus, or primary.

AND

7 of Hillary's 20 wins come from CLOSED states, be they caucus or primary.

Let's dispel the idea that Bernie's losing because of voter suppression, because he has only won 5 primaries, and caucuses suppress the vote by their very nature. They are undemocratic, not 'one person, one vote,' and leave many poor, disabled, and otherwise stressed and busy people out due to the time commitment inherent in their format.

Let's also dispel the notion that Bernie's losing because of closed states. He's won more in closed states than he has in open ones. The bulk of Hillary's wins come from OPEN primary states, where voting is accessible, and easy for Independents and Democrats.

Sources are here, feel free to check:

https://ballotpedia.org/Closed_primaryhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_larry_j_sabato/primaries_versus_caucuses_the_score_so_far_in_2016http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/19/bernie-s/sanders-largely-base-saying-we-win-when-voter-turn/

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[Goosey 3,017]

1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said:

And yes someone in California won't necessarily know what's happening in Massachusetts, but at least they know what's happening in the same country. You apparently think the US is still having issues with same sex marriage, displaying a glaring misunderstanding of current issues and events. Get some context.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-bc-fl--gay-marriage-20160418-story.html

1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said:

And stop justifying "from her own mouth" as if she's said or done anything that nobody has done before. The irony being above all else that you support Trump who actually insults people on a regular basis with that mouth of his.

I don't care about insults. I care about policies. What she says she wants disgusts me.

 

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10 hours ago, Redstreak said:

Her complete inability to win independent support is her real Achilles Heel, but let's ignore the Democratic candidate who actually does do best with all of those groups.

He doesn't have the woman, black, gay or Latino vote. Do research before blowing out your hole.

[Redstreak 6,653]

22 minutes ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

He doesn't have the woman, black, gay or Latino vote. Do research before blowing out your hole.

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Just now, Redstreak said:

Congrats. You made fun of Gaga fan art on a Gaga forum, who supports Hillary. Going for that Ad Hominem the weakest way.

[Redstreak 6,653]

1 minute ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Going for that Ad Hominem the weakest way.

Wow you're dumb

Typical white men, playing the "Get out of my country card" or "You're not American stay out of it". Typical. You're a CLASS A stereotype.

No wonder! You're ass is 14!!!! LMAO.

Get a few dicks in there to calm your uneducated Spoiled Gen Z ass down. Then talk to me in 10 years when you learn from more than Youtube Slander videos and Crappy TV ads. BYE>

Bernie is complaining about since his White Entitled Independent ass is losing.

Whatever the garbage that white man is saying because hes losing is false.

I'm just doing it to amuse myself at how unintelligent voters are

Hillary is the next president and your uninformed 12 year old ass has to deal

 

 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

 

This thread is so damn sad...  

1. @Bernie Sanders voting for 2 extremes is not everyone's cup of tea, no matter how much you detest Hillary Clinton!  Also, Hillary is far from being on the conservative side of the spectrum.  Well maybe she is in the extreme political times we are now currently living in.  But this political graph of the most liberal & conservative members of congress should help inform you...

www.dailykos.com 

As you can see Hillary was the 11th most liberal senator when she was in the U.S. Senate.  Hardly a **** Cheney warmongering everywhere & anywhere, take all of your rights away republican wannabe!  Smh 

2. @Redstreak Hillary may have trouble with young voters & independents, but Bernie also has problems with Black + Latino voters & Traditional Democrats.  Also, plenty of Bernie Bros have said horrendous things to me for being a supporter of Hillary Clinton.  Like telling me because I am black, that that is the only reason I am voting for her.  Because black people always support criminals!!!  Smh   So believe me when I say there is enough vitriol to go around from ALL sides quite honestly...

3. @Whispering thank you so much for providing some fact based logic & numeral data to this complete mess of a thread!  Smh 

4. As for Hillary Clinton's "SUPPOSED" liar of all liars status/moniker.  These statistical graphics from the non-partisan Politifact.com should help shed some light on this "perceived" view of her... 

...And this is a statistical "TRUTH" graph as well, from all of the current & former(some from past presidential cycles) presidential candidates.  

SOURCES: www.nytimes.com 

                   www.politifact.com

 

I hope this post provides some logic based context to some of the flippant things mentioned throughout this entire thread...

Have a nice day/weekend everyone!!!  

 

 

[Redstreak 6,653]

1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

 

2. @Redstreak   So believe me when I say there is enough vitriol to go around from ALL sides quite honestly...

 

 

Yet only side has to deal with sweeping generalizations nationally under a "Bernie Bro" mantra. The "Clinton Chick" is very real (as evidenced by this thread) however only one sides group is ever made any deal about.

[Himeros26 1,688]

10 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL I AM HOLLERING LOL LL OL C

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

7 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Yet only side has to deal with sweeping generalizations nationally under a "Bernie Bro" mantra. The "Clinton Chick" is very real (as evidenced by this thread) however only one sides group is ever made any deal about.

Maybe because you guys are all over social media every time you turn your head.  Saying that the administration for Bernie on social media is equivalent to the Administration for Hillary on social media would most definitely be a false equivalence!  And because of that dynamic, saying the hate from both Candidates STANS is also equal would also be a false equivalence as well...  

EDIT:  I meant Admiration, damn auto-correct!  Smh