HighlandHeart 993 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Britney Spears said: Wtf sweety Carly is an incredible songwriter.There is a reason why Emotion got 77/100 on metacritic DESPITE being pure pop (which is something that critics hate)..It's EASILY one of the best pop albums of this decade Show me where I said Carly is a bad songwriter. And stop. Please. It's cringey throwing about heavy terms like 'critically acclaimed' and 'album of the decade' when a) the decade isn't even over yet and b) there are more genres than pop. Your statement is your opinion and nothing more. Just because other people disagree and provide facts to show why they disagree, doesn't mean you're entirely wrong. But concede that you're certainly not entirely right either, otherwise your opinion appears sensationalist and the reputation of your word is damaged, all because of being defensive over one of pop's most basic singers. If you don't have shadows you're not standing in the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Drunk Poet said: Show me where I said Carly is a bad songwriter. And stop. Please. It's cringey throwing about heavy terms like 'critically acclaimed' and 'album of the decade' when a) the decade isn't even over yet and b) there are more genres than pop. Your statement is your opinion and nothing more. Just because other people disagree and provide facts to show why they disagree, doesn't mean you're entirely wrong. But concede that you're certainly not entirely right either, otherwise your opinion appears sensationalist and the reputation of your word is damaged, all because of being defensive over one of pop's most basic singers. Your post is the cringey one because I said 1)one of the best 2)POP albums of the decade.. At least read my comment well before calling it cringey sweety.. Also it's obvious that I am talking about this decade til now, I don't think that we can easily predict the future.. 1)Nothing in music can be "right" or "wrong".Because music is pretty subjective.So yeah it's obvious that it's my opinion 2)Stop using the word basic when it's not needed Her music is not "basic" just because it's pop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandHeart 993 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: Your post is the cringey one because I said 1)one of the best 2)POP albums of the decade.. At least read my comment well before calling it cringey sweety.. Also it's obvious that I am talking about this decade til now, I don't think that we can easily predict the future.. 1)Nothing in music can be "right" or "wrong".Because music is pretty subjective.So yeah it's obvious that it's my opinion 2)Stop using the word basic when it's not needed Her music is not "basic" just because it's pop I already made a long and detailed point backed up with facts about how pop is not basic. So no, I'm not calling Carly basic based on her genre! It's based on her formulaic songs and the marketing routine. So I think it's you who really needs to read what I say properly. Also, I'm aware of what you said. I'm simply saying that it isn't one of the best pop albums of six whole years. That's such a riduculous statement. So yes, it is your opinion and nothing more. If you don't have shadows you're not standing in the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 4,977 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 14 hours ago, OBEY said: Watch everyone release Funk/punk/disco music before LG5 comes out Lorde releasing ARTPOP before Gaga teas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, Drunk Poet said: I already made a long and detailed point backed up with facts about how pop is not basic. So no, I'm not calling Carly basic based on her genre! It's based on her formulaic songs and the marketing routine. So I think it's you who really needs to read what I say properly. Also, I'm aware of what you said. I'm simply saying that it isn't one of the best pop albums of six whole years. That's such a riduculous statement. So yes, it is your opinion and nothing more. Umm and how exactly is her music formulatic? You can literally say this for every pop song.Because pop is meant to be simple and understandable. I just listened to the song that you mentioned on the post above and it's way more "formulatic" and repetitive than Carly's album in both lyrics,production and melody.So I don't really get your point AT ALL. " I'm simply saying that it isn't one of the best pop albums of six whole years." 1)Why is it that hard for an album to be ONE OF THE BEST POP ALBUMS of the last 6 years? We don't really get many great pop albums every year. It's okay I guess if you don't really like the album but my opinion is NOT ridiculous just because you have a different one 2)"So yes, it is your opinion and nothing more." Yeah exactly the same goes for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Moon 394 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Edonis said: I can always count on her to deliver great pop music! don't be a draq, just be a queen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stircrazy 86 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 13 hours ago, LanasNerfGun said: Everyone jumps on the Gaga is reductive bandwagon yet not a peep about Madonna directly sampling ABBA on Hung Up If you listened to the song she sampled 'give me a man after midnight' you'd realize why. The songs are sonically different enough, not just a straight rip off. Also the lyrical content is an extension from the ABBA record to Madonna's Confessions. Xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo 7,815 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 56 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: Nah. He is trying to get you to feed on his pomposity, by masking opinions as facts to back up his own opinions. I just didn't want to feed the troll anymore Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo 7,815 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, stircrazy said: If you listened to the song she sampled 'give me a man after midnight' you'd realize why. The songs are sonically different enough, not just a straight rip off. Also the lyrical content is an extension from the ABBA record to Madonna's Confessions. Xx Plus Benny Andersson and Björn Ulvaeus, the writers/musicians from Abba, both approved of her sample personally Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 14 hours ago, Drunk Poet said: Mock? Please. I'm just after reading an article which wondered why it was a commercial failure. Easy, she released 7 singles of a 12 track record and released the album early in Japan after it leaked online. It made waaaaay less than ARTPOP. So no, it's hardly a perfect album. ... This is not actually true at all Her label had planned to release it ON TIME in Japan, its the rest of the world who got it late. The album did not leak. A Japanese fan bought it in a major record store and was tricked into sharing it by some members on ATRL. There was even a Carly Rae Jepsen stand with Tug of War, Kiss and EMOTION all on it Typically, albums release a day earlier than their official release; if you check the Oricon record charts, many albums begin "selling" a day before their official release depending on how many stores will sell it early and if they have been specifically told not to do so. Often the "first day sales" of an album or single are split because of this massive effect. It can be a 50-50, or a 10-90, or 90-10, which can inflate or deflate the initial opinions about its chart success Just some fun facts! Also, only All That, I Really like you, Run Away With Me and the week of its release or so, Your Type were available b4 the album came out. *edit* EMOTION was also streamed and shared for a while before being officially released on her YouTube channel. There are plenty of reasons this album was not a commercial success, but this one isn't one of them. The justifications in the rest of your post are also all based off of misconceptions of Carly Rae and her personal relationships with the lyrics and the producers she worked with, her manager, the actual process of making this record, and her label's investment in her But you do you boo, It's personally the best "pop" album for me this decade and I'm sorry you don't appreciate it 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yves 1,891 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Drunk Poet said: No, I actually don't. I don't 'over'-analyse anything. And for some people, this is their jobs. Had I stated these facts but instead they happened to show the artist in a good light, you wouldn't make the ridiculous statement that I'm over-analysing. You would be happy. You can't just dismiss hard fact as 'over-analysis' just because you disagree and are defensive about the artist. But then again, someone above me didn't like the artist and you stated that they had no taste. That is not only also ridiculous, but it's rude and shows a weak argument. If you have evidence which counters mine, please share. But remember that music is subjective and one man's bop is another man's trash. Mmkay. You have a point. You do you, I guess. Hope you'll be happy with your life, dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yves 1,891 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A bit serious here. LOL. People need to #LetTheLightIn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseaaaaaa 1,453 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 11 hours ago, Nino said: Disco is largely analog smfh Ronson doesn't do analog normally, so it won't sound like her cover of the Chic song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Chelsea Symona said: Ronson doesn't do analog normally, so it won't sound like her cover of the Chic song. Analog sounds are what Ronson is known in the industry for. He produced on X's Back to Basics, Adele's 19, and Amy Winehouse's Back to Black. He's mainly known for his soulful productions, but he's an established, talented producer who could adapt his talents to whatever GaGa wants from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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