Morphine Prince 106,188 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Lol at us discussing theological topics. inb4 a thread is made titled "Time to stop the religious discussions on GGD" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Didymus said: You're defending a 100% misogynistic reading of the Gospels hundreds of years after the inception of those writings as a possibly valid interpretation? I sure as hell won't. It's not a big deal anyway, the sinful woman washing Jesus' feet part is still in there which validates what she's saying, but it is simply impossible that's Mary Magdalene and, ironically, she would know that if she read the Bible closely, while she's apparently relying on popular legend. i'm not defending the interpretation. that's not the point. i'm defending gagz because you and the other member said that she's uninformed/misinformed, aka wrong. so i basically asked the question: according to what or who? history or historians? and then i pointed out that history is not written in stone. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Ah, the paradox of intolerance going on in here It's to be expected, and I don't really care that much, but insinuations that the people of both groups are on equal levels and that one should expect it from the other before asking for it are pretty misguided to me. Religious people, especially Christians, have held social and literal power over a third of the human population and have spent most all of history chastising, dehumanizing, murdering, and enslaving non religious people (along with a bunch of other groups people with "non favorable" traits). It sounds like much more of a threat in this light Maybe I'm over thinking it though 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,188 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: That IG quote mentions Christian music...I wonder if that's her new direction. Ready for the Pope Francis feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Black Salvatore said: She had to be "virgin" in order to be praised. She had to be untouched to be regarded as "holy". Does it sound familiar to you? Men can have as much sex as they want, but if a woman is sexually active, she is thought to be immoral and a slut. Both men and women were not to supposed to have sex until marriage.I don't know how you came to that. Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,598 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said: She hinted at feminism with G.U.Y just like she hinted at Born This Way with Alejandro. LG5 will be a feminist album! Noooo I don't feel adequately pandered to as a gay male yet Spoiler As long as she doesn't go full feminazi on us Spoiler I don't see her doing that though. She's way too smart and loving to be anti-male 18 minutes ago, RF said: I'm a christian, I TRY to follow Jesus' good teachings and I hate the whole priest system. Can't beljeve many of you is so close minded Don't take it too personally. Many of us have been personally affected by religious bigotry (or rather, bigotry "justified" with religion, namely Christianity). It's hard to have compassion towards someone who holds the same belief system as someone who insults us, condemns us to Hell, or literally attacks us but not impossible. You're right though. In the end, it's the teachings of Christ that Christians are supposed to follow. Just because some of them put their own personal prejudice in the spotlight, twisting the words of their god to fit that bigotry, doesn't mean all Christians should be judged never feel like you need to justify your beliefs to those that won't listen. You seem like a wonderful person so don't worry about some of the more misguided comments here, friend You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, skeleton.gun said: i'm not defending the interpretation. that's not the point. i'm defending gagz because you and the other member said that she's uninformed/misinformed, aka wrong. so i basically asked the question: according to what or whom? history or historians? and then i pointed out that history is not written in stone. Well, according to the Bible for one The Bible does not link the sinful woman with Mary Magdalene at all. In fact, Mary M. has a completely separate and beautiful role in the Gospels. But I guess you're right in essence, she could've picked that up in church or from artworks or just through popular legend. Which isn't wrong, I didn't say it was wrong btw, I'm just a bit surprised (in a bad way) she doesn't know this. I'm not saying that invalidates her belief or her interpretation, but from someone who posts about the Bible specifically this much, I'm kind of bummed out her interpretation actually relies on very traditional, and even misogynistic historical developments. But that's just my own irrelevant opinion I don't care, really, like I said, the essence of her post is still kept intact by the sinful woman thing, but it's just not Mary Magdalene and I don't get why anyone would hold on to that interpretation when it is literally found nowhere until the Middle Ages, and a close study of the source materials reveals that it is impossible that the sinful woman passage was written as if it was Mary M. I'd hope they'd review their opinion, because like I said, it only makes the actual Mary M. figure in the Gospels that much more powerful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 1 minute ago, PartySick said: Noooo I don't feel adequately pandered to as a gay male yet Hide contents As long as she doesn't go full feminazi on us Hide contents I don't see her doing that though. She's way too smart and loving to be anti-male inb4 ha Anita Sarkeesian era 7 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Lol at us discussing theological topics. inb4 a thread is made titled "Time to stop the religious discussions on GGD" With the OP's own religious views right after saying they're over it Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,141 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Bravo Gaga, Well said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, PartySick said: Don't take it too personally. Many of us have been personally affected by religious bigotry (or rather, bigotry "justified" with religion, namely Christianity). It's hard to have compassion towards someone who holds the same belief system as someone who insults us, condemns us to Hell, or literally attacks us but not impossible. You're right though. In the end, it's the teachings of Christ that Christians are supposed to follow. Just because some of them put their own personal prejudice in the spotlight, twisting the words of their god to fit that bigotry, doesn't mean all Christians should be judged never feel like you need to justify your beliefs to those that won't listen. You seem like a wonderful person so don't worry about some of the more misguided comments here, friend I wish everyone was like you. I mean, it's a really ****ed up world. We can't keep complaining about it and then spread negativity hatred and 'bullism' in every context. People fight for food, for religion, FOR POPSTARS. Why should we fight about these topics in a forum dedicated to an artist that promotes online kindness and equality and who believes in God? I didn't take it as a personal attack, but it enraged me reading that people who got bullied have this attitude. Discuss about heels and mind your own business. Thank you anyway. You're really a clear example of a really kind person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, PartySick said: Noooo I don't feel adequately pandered to as a gay male yet Reveal hidden contents As long as she doesn't go full feminazi on us Reveal hidden contents I don't see her doing that though. She's way too smart and loving to be anti-male Don't take it too personally. Many of us have been personally affected by religious bigotry (or rather, bigotry "justified" with religion, namely Christianity). It's hard to have compassion towards someone who holds the same belief system as someone who insults us, condemns us to Hell, or literally attacks us but not impossible. You're right though. In the end, it's the teachings of Christ that Christians are supposed to follow. Just because some of them put their own personal prejudice in the spotlight, twisting the words of their god to fit that bigotry, doesn't mean all Christians should be judged never feel like you need to justify your beliefs to those that won't listen. You seem like a wonderful person so don't worry about some of the more misguided comments here, friend RIP you I wish Gaga would make a feminist album about the privilege of white gay men, she'd have the world SHOOK Actually, maybe Azalea will do that and she can bring back Red Flame 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As long as she is just living religion on her own way without letting churches and all that **** impose their ideas on her and it makes her feel good.... I'm ok. Don't get what you are all complaining about. It is not like she's now a homophobic. She can have her own conection with God. I am the most atheist person in the world, btw. This is not my cup of tea or what I wanna hear from her, but hey... _____ I would become homophobic if you let my music flop like yall gays did with ARTPOP tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,631 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 God is never a trend no matter who the believer. Queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, Bloody said: God is never a trend no matter who the believer. Queen This gif 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,598 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, RF said: I wish everyone was like you. I mean, it's a really ****ed up world. We can't keep complaining about it and then spread negativity hatred and 'bullism' in every context. People fight for food, for religion, FOR POPSTARS. Why should we fight about these topics in a forum dedicated to an artist that promotes online kindness and equality and who believes in God? I didn't take it as a personal attack, but it enraged me reading that people who got bullied have this attitude. Discuss about heels and mind your own business. Thank you anyway. You're really a clear example of a really kind person I totally agree I mean, I'm here for the debates and discussions but they get unnecessarily messy. Human nature, I guess 1 minute ago, ItsVenusBitch said: RIP you I wish Gaga would make a feminist album about the privilege of white gay men, she'd have the world SHOOK Actually, maybe Azalea will do that and she can bring back Red Flame As long as it sounds good I'm here for it Lash me, mother make me feel bad for being light skinned and liking diques You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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