Mast 980 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Notice those dates? *sigh* Reading comprehension failing again,. Regarding that dumb video, I answered it here. It's comprehensive. Honestly that video is literally the only "proof" anyone ever presents, and it's so sensationalist that it makes the National Enquirer look like BBC. Also, if 4 years is too long of a time for you, how about last month, when she said that she was gonna run the coal industry out of business, and then the very next day she said she want a future for the coal industry??? https://www.yahoo.com/news/facing-backlash-clinton-says-coal-still-future-211530604--election.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw "Facing a backlash from Appalachian Democrats, Hillary Clinton's campaign on Monday tried to reaffirm her commitment to coal communities one day after declaring on national television she was going to "to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mast said: Why it gotta be weeks tho? a 4 year gap is not that long at all. Why can't she get it right the first time? Do you really want someone who continuously ****s up and just says "Whoopsies I just caused millions of people to die no big deal" to run this country? bye. FOUR year gap for what? There was no four year gap. The shortest gap between a switch is 7 years (on same-sex marriage), and even then not only was the shift not that great (civil unions with full benefits -> full marriage) it was done after SEVEN years of not talking about the topic. Keep rationalizing though. That's the only way you can reconcile how wrong you are. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mast said: Also, if 4 years is too long of a time for you, how about last month, when she said that she was gonna run the coal industry out of business, and then the very next day she said she want a future for the coal industry??? https://www.yahoo.com/news/facing-backlash-clinton-says-coal-still-future-211530604--election.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw Again with the lack of context. She doesn't want a future for the coal industry. She wants a future for coal country. Coal country is a section that interleaves across several states where the coal industry is a huge part of life, hence the name, similar to"Wine Country" in Bordeaux, France. It has no implications regarding the industry itself. The way she spoke, she made an implication that she was out to get the workers, when she wants to help them through shifting jobs to solar power and other professions. She did admit that there will be a loss in total job count however. Anything else to say? I sincerely hope you read that thread I linked you. If you disagree with THAT much statistical and factual evidence, then let me know. I'll stop bothering. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: LOL... Holy **** what kind of explosive response? The superpredator comment wasn't racist. The most dangerous thing for black communites WERE fellow black people. She didn't make the implication that they were dangerous to white people. Talk about failing to understand context. Perhaps it was misspoken, but the intent was clearly not racist. Your second statement is so out of nowhere and has no credible evidence. Your final one is ridiculous, given that she has been carrying Hot Sauce everywhere her entire life given her apparent obsession with it. Here's an article from 4 yeas ago. http://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2012-08-30/hillary-clinton-interview-visionaries Not to mention it was done on a comedy show. Jesus Christ LOL Because comedy should allow racism lmao. Whether or not she actually likes hot sauce, she's smart enough to understand the racial implications behind her statement. Also CP Time. Also: Also, how are black people dangerous to black communities??? That was not even the context she was using, but let's pretend it was. How is WHITE communities with their pushing poc unto ghettos and projects, pushing crack cocaine into them, heavily targeting ghettos to arrest people, MASS INCARCERATION WHICH HER HUSBAND CAUSED, and systematic racism not the biggest threat to black communities? Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Didn't my abuela Hillary also defend deporting immigrant children fleeing violence to send a message a couple of years ago? Or am I wrong? I don't have time to look it up right now. She also wanted to build a wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Didn't my abuela Hillary also defend deporting immigrant children fleeing violence to send a message a couple of years ago? Or am I wrong? I don't have time to look it up right now. I know what you're referring to. You're referring to the Guatemalian, Hondurian, and Salvadorian unaccompanied minors who got here in the summer of 2014(?). Her statement: “We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay,” she said. “So, we don’t want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey." And she's right. The US cannot support the World's poor, or those fleeing violence from various countries; we simply can't. And many of these children ended up being deported through RAIDS from ICE because they lacked proper documentations, legal proceedings, legal guardians here in the US, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/pre-dawn-raids-leave-us-immigrant-communities-paralyzed-with-fear/2016/01/08/5bdf664c-b412-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html 100,000 families! crossed into the US without proper documentation, and now many of them are facing deportations after they THOUGHT they got to stay here. In all brutal honesty, it is better to turn them away at the gate, than to turn them away after they have been here for roughly 2 years- with the assumption that they were gonna start a new life here. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Didn't my abuela Hillary also defend deporting immigrant children fleeing violence to send a message a couple of years ago? Or am I wrong? I don't have time to look it up right now. The message was to keep children safe. Children being sent over here without adults or parents was a very dangerous situation. Obama had the same stance. To allow them to come without their parents or an adult legal guardian was encouraging more parents to do the same. It simply wasn't a good decision for these children to send the message that this was going to be an acceptable option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mast said: Because comedy should allow racism lmao. Whether or not she actually likes hot sauce, she's smart enough to understand the racial implications behind her statement. Also CP Time. Also: How is it racist to talk about a stereotype? She wasn't saying she agreed with it. Are you just frantically looking for evidence on the Internet now? There are no racial implications for saying you like hot sauce. It's a ****ing condiment that she has been using her entire life. Black people certainly don't own it nor is it part of their culture. In fact I'm fairly certain it's a Southern thing. Beyonce is from Houston, Texas and the joke was actually done by black people where they said "Are you pandering now?". She merely replied back saying "Is it working?"... on a comedy show. The CPT joke was DeBlasio's not hers, so don't try with that. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: FOUR year gap for what? There was no four year gap. The shortest gap between a switch is 7 years (on same-sex marriage), and even then not only was the shift not that great (civil unions with full benefits -> full marriage) it was done after SEVEN years of not talking about the topic. Keep rationalizing though. That's the only way you can reconcile how wrong you are. It's been a couple months since the election began and she went from wanting "low cost tuition" to "free tuition" when she saw how many people wanted free tuition. Also, "I have always supported $15" when she wanted "$12" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Just now, Himeros26 said: She also wanted to build a wall. Holy **** dude. Every country needs secure borders. **** Mexico has a Southern border and rarely anyone bats an eye. Mexico's laws regarding undocumented immigrants are also FAR WORSE than ours, yet they almost get a free pass from liberals and Latino advocacy groups. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 @Lion Heart I'd like to build a wall from Himeros26's posts. Why doesn't the ignore feature carry on through quotes? Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Just now, LebaneseDude said: How is it racist to talk about a stereotype? She wasn't saying it was true. Are you just frantically looking for evidence on the Internet now? There is no racial implications for saying you like hot sauce. It's a ****ing condiment that she has been using her entire life. You're just looking for an excuse right now. The CPT joke was DeBlasio's not hers, so don't try with that. She was literally the in the goddamn joke and was part of it. She chose to be in it well aware of the racial implications and when people called her out she claimed she had nothing to do with it. She refused to condemn the incident. Being an enabler is not any better than being a perpetrator, and please don't try to tell poc what racism looks like. We know what racism looks like. To address the hoodie comment, yes, she was speaking of a stereotype but then called the people who enforced it "well meaning white people". Why is she trying to excuse and pardon racism??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Himeros26 said: It's been a couple months since the election began and she went from wanting "low cost tuition" to "free tuition" when she saw how many people wanted free tuition. Also, "I have always supported $15" when she wanted "$12" No, she has been talking about free tuition for community college since she started her campaign. She still isn't for free tuition for four year state schools. The campaign didn't just start two months ago. Hillary announced her run for President over a year ago and her policy on free community college was already in place at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Again with the lack of context. She doesn't want a future for the coal industry. She wants a future for coal country. Coal country is a section that interleaves across several states where the coal industry is a huge part of life, hence the name, similar to"Wine Country" in Bordeaux, France. It has no implications regarding the industry itself. The way she spoke, she made an implication that she was out to get the workers, when she wants to help them through shifting jobs to solar power and other professions. She did admit that there will be a loss in total job count however. Anything else to say? I sincerely hope you read that thread I linked you. If you disagree with THAT much statistical and factual evidence, then let me know. I'll stop bothering. Did you even read the first line of the article? Bye Becky, stay ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: Holy **** dude. Every country needs secure borders. **** Mexico has a Southern border and rarely anyone bats an eye. Mexico's laws regarding undocumented immigrants are also FAR WORSE than ours, yet they almost get a free pass from liberals and Latino advocacy groups. Oh okay so then I assume it's okay for trump to say it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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