Met Gaga: Born This Way's Impact

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

I already said that example was about bringing latex to public consciousness, latex fashion has been around for years

Ironically, including among famous celebs before 2011. In fact, Katy Perry (oops) was much talked about on fashion blogs for wearing latex all through 2010:

This is Gaga in 2008/2009

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Just now, Enigma said:

This is Gaga in 2008/2009

Well, then you shouldn't have made a thread about how Born This Way was impactful.

Besides, I already gave you the Britney example and you said it didn't count Hello, that Britney catsuit is like 100% similar to Gaga's early latex outfits

And no, the last two looks are from 2010. Stop trying. Latex is not something Gaga brought to the table or even to public consciousness.

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3 minutes ago, Enigma said:

This is Gaga in 2008/2009

Madonna 1994

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Just now, Didymus said:

Well, then you shouldn't have made a thread about how Born This Way was impactful.

Besides, I already gave you the Britney example and you said it didn't count Hello, that Britney catsuit is like 100% similar to Gaga's early latex outfits

And no, the last two looks are from 2010. Stop trying. Latex is not something Gaga brought to the table or even to public consciousness.

Not latex in itself but rather latex as a form of fashion. From the pictures I posted this is very clear. Once again, Britneys is just a simple latex outfit. And I posted Born This Way's because they look more similar to Beyonce's

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1 minute ago, Prismatic said:

Madonna 1994

Once again, a simple latex outfit. Just like Britneys.

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Just now, Enigma said:

Not latex in itself but rather latex as a form of fashion. From the pictures I posted this is very clear. Once again, Britneys is just a simple latex outfit. And I posted Born This Way's because they look more similar to Beyonce's

It's a latex catsuit, duh, it's a p-rn outfit, but Britney wore it in a mainstream video, that was part of the genius of that video.

And she didn't stop there, she wore this to the 2004 VMA's:

+ there's this iconic Britney look:

So, no, you lost and that's final.

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Just now, Didymus said:

It's a latex catsuit, duh, it's a p-rn outfit, but Britney wore it in a mainstream video, that was part of the genius of that video.

And she didn't stop there, she wore this to the 2004 VMA's:

+ there's this iconic Britney look:

So, no, you lost and that's final.

They still like the regular latex outfits people wore before Britney. Gaga's version are truly incorporating latex to art and high fashion though.

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10 minutes ago, Enigma said:

They still like the regular latex outfits people wore before Britney. Gaga's version are truly incorporating latex to art and high fashion though.

Gurl....

Grace Jones says hi back from 1992.

So does Lady Miss Kier from 1990

Also, define 'High fashion'.

Like, so you're saying that latex can be applied to regular street fashion as well? Tell me the last time you saw a fashionista walk down a street in a latex catsuit. I think latex suits are quite a fashion statement in general.

Please support your arguments with actual examples and not just bland statements that don't hold water ("Regular latex outfits people wore before Britney" - what people? Where?)

If anything, Gaga is the last person to incorporate ANYTHING into high fashion. She just buys sh*t from designers and wears it. She will NEVER be a fashion designer - she said it herself. She may be a muse to designers or a person who supports fashion, but saying that by being a muse to them she influences fashion is quite of a reach, actually.

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13 minutes ago, Enigma said:

They still like the regular latex outfits people wore before Britney. Gaga's version are truly incorporating latex to art and high fashion though.

She just BOUGHT it fom a Japanese designer lmfao

You're acting like Gaga designed this ****. I've told you before: latex has been in fashion for years, and Gaga may have brought some high fashion latex wear to (only a few) events, but that does not mean Beyoncé's inspired by her, since, clearly, Beyoncé could also have been inspired by all the countless runways and fashion magazines that have featured latex for decades

Besides, there are so many pre-Gaga red carpet latex looks gurl pls There was even a latex leggings craze that thank god has disappeared. Some famous ones:

Just give it up tbh.

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Just now, Design said:

Gurl....

Grace Jones says hi.

Also, define 'High fashion'.

Like, so you're saying that latex can be applied to regular street fashion as well? Tell me the last time you saw a fashionista walk down a street in a latex catsuit. I think latex suits are quite a fashion statement in general.

Please support your arguments with actual examples and not just bland statements that don't hold water ("Regular latex outfits people wore before Britney" - what people? Where?)

If anything, Gaga is the last person to incorporate ANYTHING into high fashion. She just buys sh*t from designers and wears it. She will NEVER be a fashion designer - she said it herself. She may be a muse to designers or a person who supports fashion, but saying that by being a muse to them she influences fashion is quite of a reach, actually.

Well, Gaga was once of the first in mainstream world. And obviously she does not design them, but she pushes these underground looks in the the mainstream.

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

She just BOUGHT it fom a Japanese designer lmfao

You're acting like Gaga designed this ****. I've told you before: latex has been in fashion for years, and Gaga may have brought some high fashion latex wear to (only a few) events, but that does not mean Beyoncé inspired her, since, clearly, Beyoncé could also have been inspired by all the countless runways and fashion magazines that have featured latex for decades

Besides, there are so many pre-Gaga red carpet latex looks gurl pls There was even a latex leggings craze that thank god has disappeared. Some famous ones:

Just give it up tbh.

You ares till not getting my point though. All of those outfits look like street outfits and not like artistic or high fashion outfits. Gaga was clearly one of the first in mainstream to showcase these. Also I am not saying that Beyonce was inspired by Gaga either.

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this is hilarious and prob true

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1 hour ago, PopThatArt said:

You have Monsters confused with Madonna fans, that's what they think about Madonna. 

I'm dying 

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Gaga also invented existing so everyone at the event was copying her, tbh.

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1 minute ago, Enigma said:

You ares till not getting my point though. All of those outfits look like street outfits and not like artistic or high fashion outfits. Gaga was clearly one of the first in mainstream to showcase these.

Well, that's where we are now after me and some others have proven to you that there was nothing new about those looks you posted in the OP and that "Born This Way" had no impact at all where you see it. Now you just changed the subject because you couldn't win

You said Gaga's OP looks were ahead of the time. That claim has been successfully disproven, so let me stop granting you ways to avoid the core of the matter: your OP is 100% wrong.