Luiz 4,253 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he's white dont know why i felt the need to point this out since it was obvious but i did. so there I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Does it matter? Refusing a particular organization for their disruptive policies is normal. Doubly so when it's supposedly a permit event and that person wants to enter without one. It's not like they aren't allowing the people they supposedly represent, African Americans, from entering. Why is this a story? Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtymonster 788 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said: Does it matter? Refusing a particular organization for their disruptive policies is normal. Doubly so when it's supposedly a permit event and that person wants to enter without one. It's not like they aren't allowing the people they supposedly represent, African Americans, from entering. Why is this a story? Look at Morphine Prince's avatar. That's why this is a story. It's unfortunate that so many people have given in to the decades of Republican smears of Hillary Clinton. She has an incredible record for being a change-maker and Republicans are terrified to run against her in a General Election. The fact that the Republican smears of Hillary even existed created a wonderful bit of phony ammunition for Sanders supporters. Now, after Bernie Sanders has lost the Democratic nomination, the only winners from those smears are the Republicans. They are benefitting from the rift that Sanders supporters are causing within the Democratic party. We can't let the Republicans win. There's too much at stake. Whether it's LGBT rights, womens' rights, immigrant rights, etc. The only winners whenever Hillary is attacked on false pretenses are the Republicans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, thedirtymonster said: Look at Morphine Prince's avatar. That's why this is a story. Actually I post stuff about all candidates. I've posted things that could be perceived negative by Bernie as well. I'm not a delusional supporter of anybody, unlike some people here.... Nice try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, thedirtymonster said: Look at Morphine Prince's avatar. That's why this is a story. It's unfortunate that so many people have given in to the decades of Republican smears of Hillary Clinton. She has an incredible record for being a change-maker and Republicans are terrified to run against her in a General Election. The fact that the Republican smears of Hillary even existed created a wonderful bit of phony ammunition for Sanders supporters. Now, after Bernie Sanders has lost the Democratic nomination, the only winners from those smears are the Republicans. They are benefitting from the rift that Sanders supporters are causing within the Democratic party. We can't let the Republicans win. There's too much at stake. Whether it's LGBT rights, womens' rights, immigrant rights, etc. The only winners whenever Hillary is attacked on false pretenses are the Republicans. I agree with your post but Morphine Prince only uses that avatar in a cynical fashion, even if he dislikes her for various reasons I don't know. He's not delusional about Bernie. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Just now, Himeros26 said: People are so dismissive of the BLM issue and it's honestly scary because it shows you just how dismissive people are on the subject of racism still existing today. Think about it like how people view feminism, many people are against feminists yet still believe in equal rights and know that women are oppressed and this is how it is with BLM movement, people know that racism exist today and support the fight against it but that doesnt mean I must agree with the BLM movement because these people are more insane than feminists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 12 hours ago, Himeros26 said: After seeing some of your other posts, I'd expect you to understand what that statement means and disregards. The movement stands for obnoxious and counter productivity and yelling and public leaders instead of listening. There is nothing positive about the BLM protestors. All lives matter, and police lives matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Just now, MJHolland said: The movement stands for obnoxious and counter productivity and yelling and public leaders instead of listening. There is nothing positive about the BLM protestors. All lives matter, and police lives matter. Goodbye, miss me with that racist ass ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Just now, Himeros26 said: Goodbye, miss me with that racist ass ****. Because it's racist to imply all lives matter in 2016. Continue to be ignorant. #CopsLivesMatter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Because it's racist to imply all lives matter in 2016. Continue to be ignorant. #CopsLivesMatter It is racist, because you're taking away african american issues and making if about white people. That's the issue, is that people have been conditioned to believe racism is extinct when in reality it's right HERE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Himeros26 said: It is racist, because you're taking away african american issues and making if about white people. That's the issue, is that people have been conditioned to believe racism is extinct when in reality it's right HERE. Nope. Not at all what I'm doing. BLM protesters are rude, disruptive, and destructive. Since they day the movement started, they been harassing people (mostly white). You tell us how that's improving race relations. In the mean time, all lives still matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,836 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 "Hillary smears" aren't exactly smears, because they aren't inaccurate. They refuse their entry to her events because she simply doesn't know how to deal with them. She only knows how to deal with BLM activists when it's under her terms and when it's politically convenient for her to pander to black voters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 23 minutes ago, Rising said: "Hillary smears" aren't exactly smears, because they aren't inaccurate. They refuse their entry to her events because she simply doesn't know how to deal with them. She only knows how to deal with BLM activists when it's under her terms and when it's politically convenient for her to pander to black voters. Many are innacurate, just like this one. This was a permit only event and the person didn't have a permit. Anything other than that fact is innacurate. Hillary, as well as all other candidates, have continued to have protestors...including those from BLM. At open invitation events for all the candidates, protestors are allowed to be there and are only removed if they cause disturbances. Unlike the other candidates, Hillary has a history that is decades long of supporting and helping the black community. That's why she gets such a high percentage of their vote. There is a decades long history there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtymonster 788 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Rising said: She only knows how to deal with BLM activists when it's under her terms and when it's politically convenient for her to pander to black voters. Partly true, partly untrue. Partly true only because NOBODY knows how to deal with BLM protesters. They aren't willing to do any sort of negotiating! To make real progress, they need to be willing to work WITH people, and Hillary has attempted to have conversations with them. Many, many people have tried to have conversations with them, though the "leaders" of the group are only interested in complaining and being disruptive, not listening to what people are willing to do to help them. When I am talking about Hillary "smears" I'm talking about the numerous ridiculous accusations made by the Republicans over the decades she's been a figure. Your statement is untrue because working with African Americans to work towards solving the issues that plague them should NOT be considered "Pandering". I think the African American community realizes that the Bernie Bros are calling it "pandering" but understand themselves that she's working towards real solutions. That's why she's OVERWHELMINGLY winning the African American vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Rising said: "Hillary smears" aren't exactly smears, because they aren't inaccurate. They refuse their entry to her events because she simply doesn't know how to deal with them. She only knows how to deal with BLM activists when it's under her terms and when it's politically convenient for her to pander to black voters. Yeah, remember also that other permit event where girl actually paid 500 dollars to attend and asked Clinton about "superpredators"? She was kicked out. So whatever it is BLM are not wanted near her. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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