PopThatArt 2,193 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I agree with Enigma, and to promote the idea of banning him/her just because his/her opinions don't kowtow to whomever is popular is not just reason to ban someone. God forbid we have different opinions and don't brown nose whomever is popular in mainstream.Some of us can see through the crap, the world needs more people with their own visions and don't just go along with what the majority says. This is a democracy, you want a dictatorship or a communist regime? Go to North Korea and try to create some bombs with Kim Jong Un. Bye Felicia. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, JbGaga said: What was creative about ARTPOP? Especially in a cohesive way? The lyrics are very creative. Most of them are not your typical storytelling time of lyrics like Lemonade has. For example GUY, uses a lot of acronyms to mean different things. In MANiCURE Gaga talks and sings in the point of view of two people, In Swine, Gaga uses EDM to show her rage, Aura is just very creative all on itself, ARTPOP the songs Gaga sees herself as a visual painter to portray her emotions, and I could go on and on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, Enigma said: The lyrics are very creative. Most of them are not your typical storytelling time of lyrics like Lemonade has. For example GUY, uses a lot of acronyms to mean different things. In MANiCURE Gaga talks and sings in the point of view of two people, In Swine, Gaga uses EDM to show her rage, Aura is just very creative all on itself, ARTPOP the songs Gaga sees herself as a visual painter to portray her emotions, and I could go on and on. I disagree. I heel like ARTPOP was hectic and random and tbh soul less . BTW, TFM, The Fame where all cohesive. ARTPOP was not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 OH YES, AND FURTHERMORE.... This website is a forum where we declare our love for Gaga and our opinions about her work? No? I thought this is GAGADAILY, so Enigma should be punished for having a positive opinion about Gaga's ARTPOP? Oh, let's stone Enigma for praising Gaga, for having the wherewithal to appreciate ARTPOP rather than condemn it like so many people on here do. God forbid, we love and compliment Gaga's work on a GAGA DAILY website. Oh, the madness! And I'd rather see more of these threads complimenting Gaga for being herself rather than all these threads popping up demanding she change who she is and make music like other people and be boring as f+uck like some generic popgirl just because what they have may be a bit more popular. You want Gaga to sacrifice her vision, to appeal to you and the media? Girl, get your head straight. 'Gaga, make an album like him! Gaga, make an album like her! Gaga, why are your acting like this? Gaga, do this! Gaga do that! Gaga, you have to make an album that is popular because it's all that matters! Gaga, you're not popular therefore you suck! Gaga, appeal to the GP! Gaga, why aren't you kowtowing to the public and making music that is massmarket like all these other people? Gaga!?!?!' Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, JbGaga said: I disagree. I heel like ARTPOP was hectic and random and tbh soul less . BTW, TFM, The Fame where all cohesive. ARTPOP was not. I am not saying ARTPOP was coesive though. It wasn't. But this is not the same at it being creative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The only thing this type of thread accomplishes is getting a bunch of people yelling at each other and encouraging people to find more ways to denigrate ARTPOP. There is nothing to be gained by this type of comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: Well everything that is not like "1+1=2" is subjective it's not true, actually. mathematical principles are valid only within their own discipline. this was said by one of my professors during a cultural anthropology class. you'd be surprised by the things that are just as accepted and institutionalized as the mathematical principles are, for instance, in western culture. it's so fascinating, imo. 10 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said: ARTPOP is more creative, it was kinda trying to comment exactly on creative freedom in a very messy way. ARTPOP's idea is much more grandiose than Leonade's. i agree. 10 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said: Does that make it a better album? - HELL NO. Lemonade is light years ahead, like it or not. i disagree. i think comparing the two makes no sense. 10 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said: The idea is simpler (not simple) but has great depths and complexities. i agree. i think the underlying theme is betrayal: either personal (infidelity) or public (minorities). 27 minutes ago, ryanripley said: this is like comparing a water bottle to a slice of cheese 2 very different albums, different messages, different genres, different reactions, different routes of creativity i agree. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackstar 11,512 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Dilated, falling free in a modern ecstasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifulien 2,954 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: The lyrics are very creative. Most of them are not your typical storytelling time of lyrics like Lemonade has. For example GUY, uses a lot of acronyms to mean different things. In MANiCURE Gaga talks and sings in the point of view of two people, In Swine, Gaga uses EDM to show her rage, Aura is just very creative all on itself, ARTPOP the songs Gaga sees herself as a visual painter to portray her emotions, and I could go on and on. Okay, man. It's true. But I just can't understand why you don't see it. The issue is not with creativity but rather with how this creativity is translated into reality. ARTPOP is smart, indeed. But it's also overly ambitious. Gaga wanted it to be much more than she ended up delivering. Again, I'm stanning hard for ARTPOP, but a little bit of objectivity is always necessary, especially here. Beyoncé may have chosen something more straightforward let's say. Something common, and more relatable - ok. But Lemonade is what she wanted it to be and it's so obvious from the film. It's like - it is supposed to be this, and so it is. The idea is fully realised, and you may need to re-watch the film cause it DOES have plenty of cultural references, some of which well-hidden. Your point seems pontless. ARTPOP is more creative than Lemonade. Full stop. So what? It means just that. What are you trying to prove with this? AP's implementation was very far from perfect and a "dream come true" unlike Lemonade, so implying that Lemonade is credited more than it should is simply a bias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Son of ARTPOP said: Okay, man. It's true. But I just can't understand why you don't see it. The issue is not with creativity but rather with how this creativity is translated into reality. ARTPOP is smart, indeed. But it's also overly ambitious. Gaga wanted it to be much more than she ended up delivering. Again, I'm stanning hard for ARTPOP, but a little bit of objectivity is always necessary, especially here. Beyoncé may have chosen something more straightforward let's say. Something common, and more relatable - ok. But Lemonade is what she wanted it to be and it's so obvious from the film. It's like - it is supposed to be this, and so it is. The idea is fully realised, and you may need to re-watch the film cause it DOES have plenty of cultural references, some of which well-hidden. Your point seems pontless. ARTPOP is more creative than Lemonade. Full stop. So what? It means just that. What are you trying to prove with this? AP's implementation was very far from perfect and a "dream come true" unlike Lemonade, so implying that Lemonade is credited more than it should is simply a bias. There is no other point I had with this thread than to state my opinion in that I believe ARTPOP is more creative than Lemonade. I know that Lemonade is a much better executed album. But too many people always undermine ARTPOP when in reality it is a very creative album full of original ideas. Even more so than acclaimed albums like Lemonade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,053 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I came in here to throw that ARTPOP (the song) is a masterpiece. k. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifulien 2,954 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: There is no other point I had with this thread than to state my opinion in that I believe ARTPOP is more creative than Lemonade. I know that Lemonade is a much better executed album. But too many people always undermine ARTPOP when in reality it is a very creative album full of original ideas. Even more so than acclaimed albums like Lemonade. Well if that's the case, you could've finished with this in your OP. I mean, we all are hoping that Gaga will be able to realise her ideas properly in the next era, and it will get attention and have an impact for the right reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'll be honest, for once I agree. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys 848 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 ARTPOP was more creative it is more than sex and drugs and yes it flopped so let's just bury it and pretend it never happened. I know there are people who think anti and lemonade are more creative but that's ok, it's just the world we live in and I don't blame anyone really I blame Gaga for taking such a creative leap from 'reality' without first building up a strong persona with the GP I want state clearly that lemonade is really a good leap from what I have come to expect from beyonce and there is nothing anti about anti 'if you get' overall non is really creative if you wanna talk creativity look to sia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,751 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 What a surprise. Isn't Gaga best at everything on the planet according to you? Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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