StrawberryBlond 14,832 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 18 hours ago, Harry said: Well thank you for that psychological assessment and for telling me how I feel (again). Every time I start to come around with you, you go and say something else that rubs me the complete wrong way. I'm not "intent" on anything. I've had fights with other users on this site that I now consider my friend. From the many interactions we've had, you just don't seem to be a nice person. And that's why I give up. You do this whole "truce" thing after every argument and then it just happens all over again. It's boring for me, I'm sure it's boring for you and it's definitely boring for everyone else that has to sit through this. Sooooo.. I'm out. When you are mean to me for no reason, I can't be blamed for trying to do a psychological examination. I don't think you've ever fully come around to me. Whenever I feel like I'm getting somewhere with you, you nitpick some little, insignificant thing and then say because of that, you don't want to talk to me again. We won't get anywhere if we take offence over the smallest things. And you don't think the things you say to me rub me completely the wrong way? It's funny you say you've had fights with other users here who are now your friends because I've done exactly the same thing. You're the first person who hasn't changed their mind about me after private discussion which is odd as everyone else realises that I'm just misunderstood after doing that. There's a member here who used to hate my guts until she claimed that she really started taking in what I had to say and researching the things I spoke of. And now we're very close despite being opposites in lots of ways and she can't understand why she never liked me to begin with. I keep trying with you in the hope that I can make you be cool with me, even if we're not friends. No one else on this site has a problem with me as much as you do, or is constantly following me and getting at me. So maybe you should wonder why you are reacting this way. Because not once have you ever considered that you could be the problem, all you've ever done is lecture me on what I'm doing wrong, with no self reflections or apologies, despite me being gracious and forgiving enough to do those things for you. You are the one who makes it happen all over again after every truce I offer. I offer you the truce, you don't agree and continue to bash me. It would only be on me if you'd accepted the truce and I didn't keep my word. A truce is my ultimate aim because I don't want to endure you making subtle digs at me every time I post here until the end of time. Clearly it's not boring for you as you never give up picking on me. I made a point of not quoting you, but you continued to quote me, in the hopes of pushing my buttons and making me snap, thus making me appear to be horrible in front of people when you are really the one causing it all and I'm merely defending myself. I'm trying to be civil to you, you're not trying to be civil to me. Make a change and we'll actually make progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: When you are mean to me for no reason, I can't be blamed for trying to do a psychological examination. I don't think you've ever fully come around to me. Whenever I feel like I'm getting somewhere with you, you nitpick some little, insignificant thing and then say because of that, you don't want to talk to me again. We won't get anywhere if we take offence over the smallest things. And you don't think the things you say to me rub me completely the wrong way? It's funny you say you've had fights with other users here who are now your friends because I've done exactly the same thing. You're the first person who hasn't changed their mind about me after private discussion which is odd as everyone else realises that I'm just misunderstood after doing that. There's a member here who used to hate my guts until she claimed that she really started taking in what I had to say and researching the things I spoke of. And now we're very close despite being opposites in lots of ways and she can't understand why she never liked me to begin with. I keep trying with you in the hope that I can make you be cool with me, even if we're not friends. No one else on this site has a problem with me as much as you do, or is constantly following me and getting at me. So maybe you should wonder why you are reacting this way. Because not once have you ever considered that you could be the problem, all you've ever done is lecture me on what I'm doing wrong, with no self reflections or apologies, despite me being gracious and forgiving enough to do those things for you. You are the one who makes it happen all over again after every truce I offer. I offer you the truce, you don't agree and continue to bash me. It would only be on me if you'd accepted the truce and I didn't keep my word. A truce is my ultimate aim because I don't want to endure you making subtle digs at me every time I post here until the end of time. Clearly it's not boring for you as you never give up picking on me. I made a point of not quoting you, but you continued to quote me, in the hopes of pushing my buttons and making me snap, thus making me appear to be horrible in front of people when you are really the one causing it all and I'm merely defending myself. I'm trying to be civil to you, you're not trying to be civil to me. Make a change and we'll actually make progress. "Because not once have you ever considered that you could be the problem, all you've ever done is lecture me on what I'm doing wrong" the irony " I made a point of not quoting you, but you continued to quote me" are you serious? I decided to not speak to you for months before you quoted me out of nowhere and said I was terrible and negative all the time and started this whole thing off again. I've asked you multiple times to stop dragging it out but you continue to do so. I don't want to "make progress" with you. I know you think you're perfect hence that whole spiel, but fact is I just don't like you and I don't see what could change my mind after these many incidents where I have tried. I know full well that I'm not perfect and not everyone likes me, and I accept that. Maybe you should too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone Madonna 1,362 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Harry and Strawberry Blonde will feud in this thread until this forum closes for good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,832 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, Harry said: "Because not once have you ever considered that you could be the problem, all you've ever done is lecture me on what I'm doing wrong" the irony " I made a point of not quoting you, but you continued to quote me" are you serious? I decided to not speak to you for months before you quoted me out of nowhere and said I was terrible and negative all the time and started this whole thing off again. I've asked you multiple times to stop dragging it out but you continue to do so. I don't want to "make progress" with you. I know you think you're perfect hence that whole spiel, but fact is I just don't like you and I don't see what could change my mind after these many incidents where I have tried. I know full well that I'm not perfect and not everyone likes me, and I accept that. Maybe you should too. I know I'm not perfect. I've said many times I have flaws, but I'm trying to change them. You're not. Do you realise how much I've tried to be civil towards you even when you're being mean and how hard that is? It's only when I try flattering you by saying that you're intelligent and so on that you start remotely relenting. You only seem to go a bit easier on me when I'm agreeing with you. I didn't quote you for weeks until one day, you quoted me out the blue, being mean to me. And you've also made a subtle dig at me without quotes on two occasions recently, hoping I'll notice (which I always do) and call you out on it (which I always do) to make me look nasty. Don't come for me and I won't come for you. I've asked you multiple times to stop doing it but you won't. You say you support women so much but won't listen when a woman tells you to stop harassing and upsetting her. For the last time, I'm not perfect. There have not been any nasty incidents, you've only perceived there to be incidents. You blow everything out of proportion and draw false conclusions all the time. I sometimes think you do it just to stir people up. Well, it annoys and upsets me when someone gets the wrong impression of me but won't drop it no matter what I say to them. It hurts me even more when you attempt to covert other people into believing your false conclusions by shouting from the rooftops that I'm a racist homophobe everytime you get the chance. And recently, even saying that no one should listen to me because I'm a virgin. That comment was so bad that I was tempted to just throw in the towel and never speak to you again, but no, I'm determined to prove to you that you've got me all wrong. I'll do it someday. Even if my anxiety's shot to hell for it, even more than it already is. You don't have to like me, all I want to do is make you realise that you're wrong about me. That's all I ask. The sad thing is, we could be friends, if you'd let me. 17 minutes ago, Ciccone Madonna said: Harry and Strawberry Blonde will feud in this thread until this forum closes for good I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. One thing just led to another. I think this moment proves what a minefield discussing female issues can be. If I wasn't female and thus cared so much, I'd don't know if I'd let it be a burden on my blood pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Ciccone Madonna said: Harry and Strawberry Blonde will feud in this thread until this forum closes for good I apologise on behalf of the pair of us. No matter how hard I try to shut things down, she drags it on. 1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said: I know I'm not perfect. I've said many times I have flaws, but I'm trying to change them. You're not. Do you realise how much I've tried to be civil towards you even when you're being mean and how hard that is? It's only when I try flattering you by saying that you're intelligent and so on that you start remotely relenting. You only seem to go a bit easier on me when I'm agreeing with you. I didn't quote you for weeks until one day, you quoted me out the blue, being mean to me. And you've also made a subtle dig at me without quotes on two occasions recently, hoping I'll notice (which I always do) and call you out on it (which I always do) to make me look nasty. Don't come for me and I won't come for you. I've asked you multiple times to stop doing it but you won't. You say you support women so much but won't listen when a woman tells you to stop harassing and upsetting her. For the last time, I'm not perfect. There have not been any nasty incidents, you've only perceived there to be incidents. You blow everything out of proportion and draw false conclusions all the time. I sometimes think you do it just to stir people up. Well, it annoys and upsets me when someone gets the wrong impression of me but won't drop it no matter what I say to them. It hurts me even more when you attempt to covert other people into believing your false conclusions by shouting from the rooftops that I'm a racist homophobe everytime you get the chance. And recently, even saying that no one should listen to me because I'm a virgin. That comment was so bad that I was tempted to just throw in the towel and never speak to you again, but no, I'm determined to prove to you that you've got me all wrong. I'll do it someday. Even if my anxiety's shot to hell for it, even more than it already is. You don't have to like me, all I want to do is make you realise that you're wrong about me. That's all I ask. The sad thing is, we could be friends, if you'd let me. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. One thing just led to another. I think this moment proves what a minefield discussing female issues can be. If I wasn't female and thus cared so much, I'd don't know if I'd let it be a burden on my blood pressure. Because I can tell that it's fake, as you just admitted. "I liked a post of yours a few weeks ago, obviously I'm not bias!!" etc. Please. I know your game. I'd never quote you out the blue without good reason. And if you ever think I'm baiting you then you need to get off your high horse. "You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you" lol. It's not like you don't offend me either with your constantly offensive and disparaging remarks. If you're going to make my dislike towards you about you being a woman, then what does it make yours towards me? Homophobic? I mean I guess it would be feasible, considering your prior comments. Ugh for the last time I never said no one should listen to you cos you're a virgin. Talk about blowing things out of proportion and drawing false conclusions. Clearly it's something that you're touchy about and if I knew that I wouldn't have said it so casually, but the only reason I know about it is because you've discussed it publicly on here before so I assumed you were open about it. I guess I was wrong about that and I accept that now. But no matter how much you think it was me "making fun" or whatever, it was a genuine attempt by me to accept your disdain for women who are open about their bodies and sexuality because I've seen it before. Every time we try to straighten it out you just piss me off tbh. You refuse to understand why some of the statements you make are completely offensive and I can't really get on board with a person like that. You wish to prove me wrong but every time we speak you just drop another statement that lowers my opinion of you further. I just don't think it's going to happen. So, for what feels like the hundredth time, I'm going to stop derailing this thread with yet another conversation that you've turned into something completely irrelevant to the OP. Byeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higher 2,406 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On April 20, 2016 at 4:49 PM, StrawberryBlond said: I'm not homophobic or racist. Don't let Harry manipulate you into thinking that. If you had a non-biased, respectful chat with me, you'd know how uneducated those remarks are. I've been one of the most tolerant people around since I was born and no one had to teach me to be that way. And the mods don't think I'm racist or homophobic, by the way. I should know, they've explicitly stated so. Harry has nothing to do with this I don't understand why you brought him up. Please do not quote me again. I don't speak to homophobic racist pieces of trash. Finally feeling free for the night, I got no worries. Finally got a claim on my life, baby, c'est la vie. ☄️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone Madonna 1,362 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 @Harry and @StrawberryBlond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I do really like her actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,832 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, Harry said: I apologise on behalf of the pair of us. No matter how hard I try to shut things down, she drags it on. Because I can tell that it's fake, as you just admitted. "I liked a post of yours a few weeks ago, obviously I'm not bias!!" etc. Please. I know your game. I'd never quote you out the blue without good reason. And if you ever think I'm baiting you then you need to get off your high horse. "You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you" lol. It's not like you don't offend me either with your constantly offensive and disparaging remarks. If you're going to make my dislike towards you about you being a woman, then what does it make yours towards me? Homophobic? I mean I guess it would be feasible, considering your prior comments. Ugh for the last time I never said no one should listen to you cos you're a virgin. Talk about blowing things out of proportion and drawing false conclusions. Clearly it's something that you're touchy about and if I knew that I wouldn't have said it so casually, but the only reason I know about it is because you've discussed it publicly on here before so I assumed you were open about it. I guess I was wrong about that and I accept that now. But no matter how much you think it was me "making fun" or whatever, it was a genuine attempt by me to accept your disdain for women who are open about their bodies and sexuality because I've seen it before. Every time we try to straighten it out you just piss me off tbh. You refuse to understand why some of the statements you make are completely offensive and I can't really get on board with a person like that. You wish to prove me wrong but every time we speak you just drop another statement that lowers my opinion of you further. I just don't think it's going to happen. So, for what feels like the hundredth time, I'm going to stop derailing this thread with yet another conversation that you've turned into something completely irrelevant to the OP. Byeee You're just as guilty of dragging this out as me. You always claim I'm the one dragging it out when you started it. I'm sure you realise that there's a difference between someone confessing details of your personal life through your own free will vs. someone telling people about your personal life without your permission. And making an offensive implication about it into the bargain and then call you "touchy" afterwards. As if I don't feel like a big enough loser about this and you had to go and make it worse. I had actually just been talking about this very thing in a PM when you made this statement just after. Can you imagine how that made me feel? But I can assure you I have no disdain for women who are open about their bodies and sexuality - any objection that I show is down to compassionate reasons. I'm not as straightfoward as you seem to think I am and for you to judge me just because "you've seen it before" was jumping the gun way too much. I know why some people are offended by what I say. But I just try to search for new ways I can present it so they hopefully realise that it's not offensive. Everything I say is well-meaning, I'm not a mean person and I'm certainly never mean for the sake of it. I'm afraid of saying anything to you now in case, by your own admission, it inadvertendly offends you and you drop the discussion when we could've got somewhere. And you're not exactly helping me to improve my opinion of you either. Yes, we should stop derailing this. If you wish to continue this and speak to me again, keep it to PM. I don't want everyone to see our dirty laundry when it's this personal. I don't want any arguments between us in public again, truth be told. 4 minutes ago, Higher said: Harry has nothing to do with this I don't understand why you brought him up. Please do not quote me again. I don't speak to homophobic racist pieces of trash. I made a reply to Ciccone Madonna and Harry informed her that she shouldn't bother with me because I was a bitter virgin. So I defended myself. You can look back at the thread and see it yourself. I didn't mention him, he mentioned me. I'm not a homophobic racist - please do not believe the lies said about me. If you spent a while around here you'd see how tolerant I am. I don't think I'd be a Gaga fan on a Gaga forum with LGBT friends if I was homophobic. And I'm hardly racist - I even called the Grammys out for racism this year. And shout-out to your Rihanna avatar - I liked Kiss It Better. You're right, @Ciccone Madonna - I'm sorry for derailing your thread and this will be my last post in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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