New York Daily News editorial board endorses ...

[Lion Heart 15,041]

Hillary Clinton for President. 

At this severe breakpoint, the central challenge confronting the next President is clear: She or he must ignite and rebalance the United States economy in favor of the many while also extending an extra helping hand to ease burdens that have grown too heavy for some.

On April 19, New York Democrats will have unusual say over the party’s nominee. They have in Clinton a superprepared warrior realist. They have in opponent Bernie Sanders a fantasist who’s at passionate war with reality. By choosing Clinton, Empire State Dems would powerfully signal that the party has gotten real about achieving long-sought goals.

Clinton is unsparingly clear-eyed about what’s wrong with America while holding firm to what’s right with America.

She fully understands the toll that adverse economic forces have taken on the country.

She is supremely knowledgeable about the powers a President can wield to lift fortunes in need of lifting.

She possesses the strength and the shrewdness to confront the tough politics of advancing an ambitious Democratic agenda in the White House.

Still more, she is a cauldron-tested globalist who had the spine to give Obama a thumb’s up for taking out Osama Bin Laden and who is far the wiser about the use of American power, having served as secretary of state and seen the consequences of the war in Iraq.

These truths about America’s most well-known public figure are long past debating among Democrats, above all in New York, the state Clinton represented in the U.S. Senate.

Here then the moment has arrived to reckon, instead, with truths about Sanders and his programs:

Subjected to meaningful scrutiny for the first time, the senator from Vermont proved utterly unprepared for the Oval Office while confirming that the central thrusts of his campaign are politically impossible.

Which, paradoxically, is good news, because some of the most prominent Sanderisms would likely wreak epic economic damage.

Read full story: 

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/vote-hillary-clinton-article-1.2598171?utm_content=buffer42c01&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

The shade is real  

Did they lie theaux?  

[MJHolland 12,725]

The country is screwed no matter who we pick at this point, they're all so damn awful in their own rights

[PartySick 172,429]

I like how they call Bernie's policy a fantasy when literally every other advanced nation on the planet has employed similar policies  Like, education and healthcare are very important...just not important enough to pay for it.

God I want to move to Europe

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

8 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I like how they call Bernie's policy a fantasy when literally every other advanced nation on the planet has employed similar policies  Like, education and healthcare are very important...just not important enough to pay for it.

God I want to move to Europe

The USA isn't like those countries. They have completely different structures and cultures. You can't compare the two in any shape or form lol

Also those countries aren't as successful as you are making them out to be. They're already collapsing under the weight of their socialist policies, with Greece being a prime example of what happens when too much is tried.

You do realize the tax rate, for example, is 50% in those countries for all its citizens because there isn't as much economic disparity. Clearly, income is adjusted to account for that, but they're already starting to tax their less fortunate citizens. The claim that they "make their money back" by getting free education for example is senseless, because not all of them actually go to universities. That's the point of socialism, and Europeans more or less conform to that line of thought, begrudgingly apparently given their recent duress.

If you think that can happen smoothly in the consumerist USA at the moment is somewhat delusional  Therein lies the fantastical element.

Socialist policies should be implemented but they'll take far more work that Sanders is implying. Universal Healthcare is a good start. 

[Redstreak 6,653]

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1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

I am shocked

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Lmao came to post this. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Spoiler

 

"On that score, he assumes that wage earners would happily shell out big bucks year after year because, trust him, health care would be free.

And trust him, raising government spending by 40%, perhaps by more than 50%, would be a boon to America — never mind that the prospect of smothering the economy frightens even left-leaning experts.

And trust him, the government would have enough money to provide free public college education to all — never mind that credible studies say he would fall short of financing all of his ideas by more than $3 trillion over 10 years.

And trust him, he would arrive in Washington as leader of a “revolution” powerful enough to bulldoze congressional Republicans — even in a time-wasting drive to replace the Obamacare they hate with a still more hated full government takeover of health insurance.

And trust him, he would end income inequality by launching an all-out assault on America’s largest banks — never credibly explaining how forcibly breaking up the likes of JPMorgan Chase and Citibank would add a dime to a single paycheck.

As would happen with any ideological phenomenon, close inspection of Sanders’ thinking clarifies that trust is misplaced. So it was when he appeared before the Daily News Editorial Board.

Although Sanders has vowed a shock-and-awe bank-busting campaign that would risk global financial chaos, he was at a loss to show how he would execute the assault or to cite legal authority for such sweeping and unprecedented exercise of presidential power.

Although Sanders has repeatedly said, “It is an outrage that not one major Wall Street executive has gone to jail for causing the near collapse of the economy,” he was also at a loss to say what specific criminal statute the execs might have broken."

Sanders’ ideological purity has found a boundary in political convenience. He roundly and repeatedly denounces corporate America for destroying the fabric of America, yet, representing a Second Amendment-friendly state, he voted to grant the gun industry near total immunity from lawsuits.

 

Omg  

[PartySick 172,429]

5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

If you think that can happen smoothly in the consumerist USA at the moment is somewhat delusional  Therein lies the fantastical element.

Socialist policies should be implemented but they'll take far more work that Sanders is implying. Universal Healthcare is a good start. 

I know it'll take more than one presidential term  Bernie knows that too. If I'm not mistaken, he's never claimed he could wave a magic wand and turn the U.S. into a utopian, socialist society (though that would be cool ) but we're not going to get the ball rolling any faster with Hillary or, god forbid, Trump or Cruz. That's how I feel, anyway.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, PartySick said:

I know it'll take more than one presidential term  Bernie knows that too. If I'm not mistaken, he's never claimed he could wave a magic wand and turn the U.S. into a utopian, socialist society (though that would be cool ) but we're not going to get the ball rolling any faster with Hillary or, god forbid, Trump or Cruz. That's how I feel, anyway.

The issue is that the's making his voters believe otherwise.

[PartySick 172,429]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

The issue is that the's making his voters believe otherwise.

Well that's they're own fault  I won't pretend there aren't some less than average intelligence people who support each candidate, even Bernie.

Not that I'm claiming to be smart, I just know where I stand is all

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, PartySick said:

Well that's they're own fault  I won't pretend there aren't some less than average intelligence people who support each candidate, even Bernie.

Not that I'm claiming to be smart, I just know where I stand is all

You'd be surprised.

Many Bernie supporters are the liberal equivalent of Trump supporters.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

4 minutes ago, PartySick said:

*snip*

Anyway I suggest you read that entire article. It has a whole segment on the virtue of pragmatism

I'll quote it so I don't overdo it with the quotes in this thread. It basically summarizes how I feel about how she can change things....pragmatically. Yes, those are her plans.

Spoiler

The necessary elements were justice, political smarts and pragmatism — the qualities that shine the brighter in Clinton’s economic agenda.

As a first priority, she looks to boost growth so that businesses need more workers and thus must hike salaries to attract them. She would stimulate the economy with major investments in roads, bridges and other infrastructure, as well as in scientific and medical research in critical areas like neuroscience. One such plan would devote $2 billion annually to seeking techniques to prevent and treat Alzheimer’s disease.

As a second priority, she would use substantial tax hikes on the wealthy and breaks for the middle class both to tilt the scales away from the rich and to jump-start the economy by giving many others more money to spend. Example: Clinton would set a hard floor so that million-dollar earners have to fully pay up, no more wriggling out.

Each of her plans is calibrated to achieve a specific result.

Based on need, Clinton would enable every student to graduate debt-free from public higher education, with the rich paying their own way and those further down the ladder receiving greater and greater support. Importantly, as structured there would be no handouts to the undeserving.

To maintain investment in America, big businesses would face heavy penalties for moving money abroad to avoid corporate taxes while businesses that invest here would enjoy benefits.

To stem too-big-to-fail financial danger, Clinton would strengthen regulations written after the 2008 crash by imposing escalating fees on banks and other players whose size and structure put the public at risk.

Clinton’s proposals are shaped for the world in which we live, not the world in which we might wish to live. By any stretch of the imagination — except that of Sanders — they stand as the highflying progressive wish list of a results-driven candidate.

 

 

[Whispering 18,865]

47 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I like how they call Bernie's policy a fantasy when literally every other advanced nation on the planet has employed similar policies  Like, education and healthcare are very important...just not important enough to pay for it.

God I want to move to Europe

Enjoy your fifty per cent plus tax rate! You will get three years of college "free", but will pay for it for the next forty five to fifty years. Also, no electives, no open choice of majors, no extra year because you switched majors and no elective classes. How well do you think that would go over in the US? 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Enjoy your fifty per cent plus tax rate! You will get three years of college "free", but will pay for it for the next forty five to fifty years. Also, no electives, no open choice of majors, no extra year because you switched majors and no elective classes. How well do you think that woukd go over in the US? 

I've heard some horror stories from international students here