Clip 5,100 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have no idea of the genre, imagery, visuals or sounds she's going for. And I don't know at all if she's still in the writing process or in the mixing phase or if this album is going to be successful So I'm not hyped right now, but I'm neither losing my interest on her. I'm fine with the waiting. I could wait another 2 years as long as she keeps doing side projects or performances. The only thing I want is creative imagery. I'm fine if she doesn't wear super extra crazy outfits anymore, but I can't stand Brandon Maxwell, so a point between those two would be fantastic. I want that "life between fantasy and reality" again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 it'll be personal, but i still think it'll be dance-pop 75% 1 song like dope - just piano and vocals 2 songs like tihty - orchestra and vocals 10 dance-pop slaying songs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said: 3 exceptions, none have which have ever had the sharp decline like gaga has. Aside from Sam, they are all safe, cool, and easy for the GP. And I feel gaga has lost a lot of fans, we were frenzied for AP, and she lost a lot of casuals and maybe even some stans. There might be some new fans, but we lost more than gained. 1)You should never see this like that... Gaga had a HUGE fanbase before ARTPOP.But ARTPOP still "flopped".. If the new music is good ,fans will come back,GP will care about the music etc. 2)I think that it's obvious that Gaga is in a HUGELY better place than when she was in 2012-2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: 1)You should never see this like that... Gaga had a HUGE fanbase before ARTPOP.But ARTPOP still "flopped".. If the new music is good ,fans will come back,GP will care about the music etc. 2)I think that it's obvious that Gaga is in a HUGELY better place than when she was in 2012-2013. I've been around since 08, so trust me, I remember gaga at her highest, there's no doubt she galvanized the world during her peak, but her fanbase has shrunken since born this way. She really turned a lot of casual listeners and general public off from her, and while she's been acclaimed lately, in my opinion, she hasn't regained them back. In order to get the GPs attention, she will need to release stuff like TF/M, which majority of the fans on this site say they don't want. So does she please the fans and given them progressive, experimental music (which would be great if done right) or please the GP and release Katy Perry pop? And there's no doubt she's in a better place now than 12/13, but, from a strict music standpoint, her greatest musical success have been products of her pain, anguish, fears, and facade, none of those she has now. Which is fine, I'd rather gaga be in a good place than be how depressed she was, but I'm interested to hear LG5 based on how reflective it'll be of her current life. Regardless, LG5 will be interesting as a whole, but idk if she'll ever regain even a fraction of the sales and appeal she once had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said: I've been around since 08, so trust me, I remember gaga at her highest, there's no doubt she galvanized the world during her peak, but her fanbase has shrunken since born this way. She really turned a lot of casual listeners and general public off from her, and while she's been acclaimed lately, in my opinion, she hasn't regained them back. In order to get the GPs attention, she will need to release stuff like TF/M, which majority of the fans on this site say they don't want. So does she please the fans and given them progressive, experimental music (which would be great if done right) or please the GP and release Katy Perry pop? And there's no doubt she's in a better place now than 12/13, but, from a strict music standpoint, her greatest musical success have been products of her pain, anguish, fears, and facade, none of those she has now. Which is fine, I'd rather gaga be in a good place than be how depressed she was, but I'm interested to hear LG5 based on how reflective it'll be of her current life. Regardless, LG5 will be interesting as a whole, but idk if she'll ever regain even a fraction of the sales and appeal she once had Well she can't regain anyone without new music.. None is expecting her to sell 20m again lol.But it's really not hard at all for her to pass ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: Well she can't regain anyone without new music.. None is expecting her to sell 20m again lol.But it's really not hard at all for her to pass ARTPOP I have to disagree, but I hope you're right! I'd love her to pull 500K or even 800K opening week. It literally just depends on the single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Just now, PMKKARDASHiAN said: I have to disagree, but I hope you're right! I'd love her to pull 500K or even 800K opening week. It literally just depends on the single. Why could you think that that it's hard for her to outsell an era with 1)music that her own FANBASE didn't like (at least a big part of it) 2)the media BASHED her 24 hours a day 3)horrible promo and 2 videos? I really don't think that she will debut with 500k or 800k. She might even debut with ARTPOP numbers.But with a full era with good music she can sell x2 as much as ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Just now, Britney Spears said: Why could you think that that it's hard for her to outsell an era with 1)music that her own FANBASE didn't like (at least a big part of it) 2)the media BASHED her 24 hours a day 3)horrible promo and 2 videos? I really don't think that she will debut with 500k or 800k. She might even debut with ARTPOP numbers.But with a full era with good music she can sell x2 as much as ARTPOP. Because her debut with AP was 258 (or something, can't really remember) and applause was a top 5 and stayed that way for how many weeks? It was a slow burner but still a widely popular song, and DWUW was HUGE outside the fan base, at least where I live. Everyone was singing and bumping it, and didn't even know it was gaga. The music wasn't as bad as some of us like to make it out to be, and the 3 singles were all top 5 material, it's just gaga lost her cool factor when she took on the "mother monster" persona and only pandered to her stans. Perhaps we're talking about two different sales, I'm talking first week US, perhaps you're talking WW or total US sales, but the reason I question her ability to outsell AP opening week is because look at all the tops acts that have released within the past couple years in the pop world, aside from Taylor and adele, none of them have crossed the 250K first week mark (please correct me if I'm wrong). She's a figure in pop culture, but I she's not necessarily a figure in music (don't scalp me) because IWYL didn't get any type of media or viral sensation, even if it was a cover (I will always love you by Whitney was a cover and it is a staple in her career) and TIHTY didn't make any kind of splash, even tho the content was about rape, the lyrics were relatable on grounds outside of rape, and besides this fanbase, no one really cared for it (even tho it was nominated for an AA). Musically, it might take a miracle for gaga to really regain her selling power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said: Because her debut with AP was 258 (or something, can't really remember) and applause was a top 5 and stayed that way for how many weeks? It was a slow burner but still a widely popular song, and DWUW was HUGE outside the fan base, at least where I live. Everyone was singing and bumping it, and didn't even know it was gaga. The music wasn't as bad as some of us like to make it out to be, and the 3 singles were all top 5 material, it's just gaga lost her cool factor when she took on the "mother monster" persona and only pandered to her stans. Perhaps we're talking about two different sales, I'm talking first week US, perhaps you're talking WW or total US sales, but the reason I question her ability to outsell AP opening week is because look at all the tops acts that have released within the past couple years in the pop world, aside from Taylor and adele, none of them have crossed the 250K first week mark (please correct me if I'm wrong). She's a figure in pop culture, but I she's not necessarily a figure in music (don't scalp me) because IWYL didn't get any type of media or viral sensation, even if it was a cover (I will always love you by Whitney was a cover and it is a staple in her career) and TIHTY didn't make any kind of splash, even tho the content was about rape, the lyrics were relatable on grounds outside of rape, and besides this fanbase, no one really cared for it (even tho it was nominated for an AA). Musically, it might take a miracle for gaga to really regain her selling power. 1)AP's debut isn't really bad at all.And I do really like ARTPOP personally.But most people think that it's a bad album 2)Actually 1D,Bieber and even Drake sold more than Gaga (in the first week).Gaga's problem with ARTPOP weren't the first week sales.The first week sales were fine..The problem is that she stopped promoting the album after it was released.So the sales barely had longevity 3)IWYL was a cover.. Just because there was 1 huge cover (which became huge because of a movie) doesn't mean that every cover should get attention Was IWYL even on iTunes?.. Also TIHTY is a song about rape,the song is not catchy AT ALL,it's not even a good song (imo) and even the biggest part of the fanbase didn't care about it.. The fact that people didn't care about it doesn't mean anything .You'll see that it's not like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip 5,100 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 @Britney Spears sorry if I look annoying or something liking everything you post, I just agree with all you said on this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Clip said: @Britney Spears sorry if I look annoying or something liking everything you post, I just agree with all you said on this thread Likes are always welcomed You're beautiful btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip 5,100 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Just now, Britney Spears said: Likes are always welcomed You're beautiful btw Thanks so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: 1)AP's debut isn't really bad at all.And I do really like ARTPOP personally.But most people think that it's a bad album 2)Actually 1D,Bieber and even Drake sold more than Gaga (in the first week).Gaga's problem with ARTPOP weren't the first week sales.The first week sales were fine..The problem is that she stopped promoting the album after it was released.So the sales barely had longevity 3)IWYL was a cover.. Just because there was 1 huge cover (which became huge because of a movie) doesn't mean that every cover should get attention Was IWYL even on iTunes?.. Also TIHTY is a song about rape,the song is not catchy AT ALL,it's not even a good song (imo) and even the biggest part of the fanbase didn't care about it.. The fact that people didn't care about it doesn't mean anything .You'll see that it's not like that To go from 1.05M to 258K is a huge decline, and for that period, those were cringe worthy sales. And I was talking about female pop singers (demi, selena, and those that are considered the front runners these days). You got me on the covers comment, but I meant that if a cover is done well, praise and success would come (it was made popular by the bodyguard but people loved it because of the song itself) agree with you that TIHTY is a bad song. The fact that 2 gaga songs with entirely different sounds, vocals, meanings were released to the public after 2 years of waiting and no one gave a damn. Perhaps we are the only ones thristy for new gaga music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsterish 5,520 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I feel like she is reworking the album or changing constantly the main idea of LG5. It's like, we thought LG5 would've glam-rock 'cause their outfits at the end of artRAVE -or her cover of What's Up during artRAVE-, however, then Gaga has gone to the ballads style with TIHTY, ykr? I really don't know what to expect Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said: To go from 1.05M to 258K is a huge decline, and for that period, those were cringe worthy sales. And I was talking about female pop singers (demi, selena, and those that are considered the front runners these days). You got me on the covers comment, but I meant that if a cover is done well, praise and success would come (it was made popular by the bodyguard but people loved it because of the song itself) agree with you that TIHTY is a bad song. The fact that 2 gaga songs with entirely different sounds, vocals, meanings were released to the public after 2 years of waiting and no one gave a damn. Perhaps we are the only ones thristy for new gaga music 1)Let's not count IWYL as a song at all..Because it's not a Gaga song..Let's not forget that everyone is tired from Gaga's covers after C2C.... 2)TIHTY was leaked 6 months+ before it got released so every pop stan knew the song like months before it got released.When it got released nobody cared. She obviously doesn't have Taylor's or Adele's popularity but she is not as irrelevant as you make her look.It's like saying that Katy is irrelevant because that song she released in Christmas didn't get attention...It's absolutely normal... 3)We can only judge when the new music comes if it will have success or not... Obviously Gaga declined a lot from BTW to ARTPOP and we already knew that before ARTPOP came.(Videos started getting less views,MTN flopped etc.).. Now I really don't feel like she has declined at all since ARTPOP. I have more hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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