Most revolutionary Female popstar?

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

I would like to see Cher on the list. She seriously never gave a **** and it was a fantastic ride the whole time. No conforming there.

I would probably have to go with Madonna for the "most".

But honestly, they've all tried their best in some way to bring something new or make the dated feel fresh and vibrant, and that really says something about them all as artists. I'm sure even Madonna borrowed some from performers, music, and art of the past. She influences others, and those on this list will do the same to the next gen. As will the next. It's a wonderous cycle.

[malazam 15,710]

We all know the answer and I don't like her (really, I couldn't care less about her) but Madonna. Gaga comes close.

 

and I'm sorry but where the **** is Cher?

 

 

 

OT: I can't believe I've voted for Madonna.....

[ImpossiblePrincess 3,853]

GAGAGAGAGAGAGAAAAAAAAAAA 

 

why isn't Kylie Minogue on here????

[OMonster 14,639]

I very genuinely believe that Gaga is the only right answer here. I do appreciate Madonna - but revolutionary, she isn't. I don't really understand the hype. She isn't a true artist (in my opinion), and vocally, she is very, very limited. Yes, she's a visionary (and I certainly wouldn't undermine her success - I do get it, but just not to an extent whereby she could be considered more talented than Gaga), but she isn't as talented as Gaga. I truly believe that. 

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5 minutes ago, OMonster said:

I very genuinely believe that Gaga is the only right answer here. I do appreciate Madonna - but revolutionary, she isn't. I don't really understand the hype. She isn't a true artist (in my opinion), and vocally, she is very, very limited. Yes, she's a visionary (and I certainly wouldn't undermine her success - I do get it, but just not to an extent whereby she could be considered more talented than Gaga), but she isn't as talented as Gaga. I truly believe that. 

In your opinion, why exactly isn't she revolutionary?  Nobody's voting for Madonna for her vocal ability and vague statements that she "isn't a true artist" don't really help to explain that. There's countless examples as to how she's set the blueprint for so many artists to follow.  

[OMonster 14,639]

7 minutes ago, hmm said:

In your opinion, why exactly isn't she revolutionary?  Nobody's voting for Madonna for her vocal ability and vague statements that she "isn't a true artist" don't really help to explain that. There's countless examples as to how she's set the blueprint for so many artists to follow.  

I do not think she helped for the music industry to evolve. I think Janet Jackson was more of a force - only indirectly, however. 

I think Gaga is praised for her artistry, but also for her voice. Madonna did not bring about that. Madonna had 50% of what Gaga has - the vision and avant-garde approach; not the voice. If something is revolutionary, it brings about huge, huge change; something entirely different and ground-breaking. With Madonna, I don't think she was that. There were others doing what she was doing, and what she had was only making up for what she didn't have. With Gaga, she has absolutely everything. She is revolutionary - there is no one comparable to Gaga. No one as talented. 

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1 minute ago, OMonster said:

I do not think she helped for the music industry to evolve. I think Janet Jackson was more of a force - only indirectly, however. 

I think Gaga is praised for her artistry, but also for her voice. Madonna did not bring about that. Madonna had 50% of what Gaga has - the vision and avant-garde approach; not the voice. If something is revolutionary, it brings about huge, huge change; something entirely different and ground-breaking. With Madonna, I don't think she was that. There were others doing what she was doing, and what she had was only making up for what she didn't have. With Gaga, she has absolutely everything. She is revolutionary - there is no one comparable to Gaga. No one as talented. 

So what "huge, huge change" did Gaga bring?  I'm not even trying to drag her but if that's your benchmark then everyone surely has to reach that mark. The Sex book, the Blonde Ambition tour and her video controversies were all ground-breaking to some extent.

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45 minutes ago, Slavi said:

Cher (wjy isn't she an opinion?), Madonna and then Gaga.

first time I feel tempted to use the tea emoticon

[Iwontell 7,312]

I don't think any of them are particularly "revolutionary", tbh...and anybody who truly likes music and knows a little bit more than what's played on the radio will tell you the same...some of them are very bold, though, which is something I usually enjoy...

[OMonster 14,639]

Just now, hmm said:

So what "huge, huge change" did Gaga bring?  I'm not even trying to drag her but if that's your benchmark then everyone surely has to reach that mark. The Sex book, the Blonde Ambition tour and her video controversies were all ground-breaking to some extent.

Gaga brought about a lot of change, and that is a view that I don't think can be compromised. Politically, artistically and musically - Gaga is 100% in a league of her own. She is ahead of the game in every way. Even with what surrounds the music aside, it is her talent alone that is an example of change. There is no other female popstar like her: she is vocally flawless, writes, produces, directs, dances, designs - she does it all. There is only one artist who I think is comparable, and that is MJ.

There are a lot of incredible artists that came before Gaga. Some were vocal powerhouses, some were outrageous, some could perform - but none could do everything in the same way Gaga does. 

[Katharine Hepburn 4,607]

Depends what you mean by revolution. Gaga has done the most different things each era whereas Madonna has defined what it means to be a pop star.

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16 minutes ago, OMonster said:

Gaga brought about a lot of change, and that is a view that I don't think can be compromised. Politically, artistically and musically - Gaga is 100% in a league of her own. She is ahead of the game in every way. Even with what surrounds the music aside, it is her talent alone that is an example of change. There is no other female popstar like her: she is vocally flawless, writes, produces, directs, dances, designs - she does it all. There is only one artist who I think is comparable, and that is MJ.

There are a lot of incredible artists that came before Gaga. Some were vocal powerhouses, some were outrageous, some could perform - but none could do everything in the same way Gaga does. 

Gaga's an amazing vocalist and a great performer, that definitely can't be taken away from her and I wasn't intending to suggest so. (You also forgot to add acting to the list ) I think your viewpoint's a bit skewed by bias but regardless, this is a boring topic at this point 

All I'll say is dismissing Madonna as an artist despite going on over thirty years later (and despite having albums such as Ray of Light to her name) -when financially she could'e stopped decades ago - is just odd  .

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1 minute ago, OMonster said:

Gaga brought about a lot of change, and that is a view that I don't think can be compromised. Politically, artistically and musically - Gaga is 100% in a league of her own. She is ahead of the game in every way. Even with what surrounds the music aside, it is her talent alone that is an example of change. There is no other female popstar like her: she is vocally flawless, writes, produces, directs, dances, designs - she does it all. There is only one artist who I think is comparable, and that is MJ.

There are a lot of incredible artists that came before Gaga. Some were vocal powerhouses, some were outrageous, some could perform - but none could do everything in the same way Gaga does. 

no offense, but you're not doing a very good job proving your point. but I agree with you. it's just that people are insecure with the opinions they had on her influence in 2009/2010. Gaga's debut was the most exciting since the 80s and popstars are still trying to live up to the standard of 2010 Gaga. only after Gaga gets back to the top (and definitely after a decade or so) will people realize the magnitude of her influence. it's pointless now. there's those of us that see the big picture and there's also those that prefer not to look funny. but there's a reason Britney and Madonna fans feared Gaga. she was as exciting as them at the peak of their careers but also more talented. there's a reason people from third world countries, grandmas and politicians know who Gaga is while Beyoncé, Rihanna and pretty much every other popstar can pass for the same person in their minds. there's a reason so many legends like Gaga. it's the nostalgia they feel for the time stars used to be as bright in their authenticity and love for showbiz as Gaga is. there's a reason Cheek to Cheek happened. there's a reason the Golden Globes decided they aren't making a fool of themselves by awarding a not so experienced and, really, not that good of an actress (yet). it's because she's truly remarkable. 

but Lady Gaga is a tacky name when not attached to #1's and Nobel Peace Prizes, so yeah...

[Pacify Him 9,073]

To the only person who voted for Beyonce

[Riot Poof 2,236]

Madonna is the Queen of Pop for a reason. She also has time on her side. It's harder to see someone's impact if their debut album isn't even ten years old yet.