Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 "Israels security is not negotiable" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResidentZionist 128 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon said: No, but the user you quoted was blaming the Jewish lobby, which is anti-semitic. I'm Jewish myself. oh sorry :P Ultimately im voting for HIllary Clinton. After hearing what she said about Anti- semitism in this speech and her opinion on foreign/domestic policy my support has only been strengthened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, Simon said: Israel is the Jewish state. The majority of Israelis is Jewish. Israel was attacked since it existed and it defended itself. And now everybody is crying that Israel so bad. Almost every war israel was in was started by the enemies. It's not "the Jewish state". It's the State of Israel. "Jewish state" is only a political term because of the fact that most of its population is Jewish. In fact it was used by Zionists, the extremist Jews. Do you not even know the nomenclature of your own country? Do I also need to teach you history? Israel did not exist less than a century ago. Quote ancient history all you want. The Native Americans are the "rightful owners" of the USA territory. It does not give them the right to establish their own country. War dictates the ever changing borders of the world, and Israel was forcefully integrated from NOTHING, pushing all native Palestinians out from then on til now. The current status of Israel is horrible, not bad. Are you seriously approving of what is going with the Palestinians? Do you honestly agree with it? You would be one disgusting human being if you do. What is not bad are Israelis because many have nothing to do with the whole situation, especially the newer generations who are born into a current official country and have the right to remain there. It's why dismantling the horrible state of Israel is not a good option, but rather integration with the Palestinians. Of course as long as people who approve of apartheid statuses exist, and as long as some Palestinians still react violently to their oppression, the cycle of distrust and hatred will never end and there will always be conflict. Some days I wish I could just call on Yahweh to pull Israel and Palestine by the ears and tell them to sit down and shut up like the little babies they are and work together. Too bad. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Simon said: Sure. Peacefully, but Arabs didn't want a Jewish state. So they kicked out their jewish populations and attacked Israel. "Arabs" ? Nice generalisation . Also if I were to come to your house and claim it mine "peacefully", you would just leave and let me have it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Florin said: So he continues beeing a coward even when he is running for president? Year after year he run and didnt answer questions about gay marriage and now pretends he was a big supporter from 90s, while he wasnt. On this subject, today he said that he wasnt there because he had other schedule, not because of a petition or because he doesnt agree with what Hillary said. He actually didnt have any problem with Hillary speech when he was asked at that CNN interview about the subject. Run chicken. Yikes. Like it's some sort of bravery to attend war mongering lobby and pander to Israel. I don't think you know anything about this subject. Half of your post is off topic. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, iamlost481516 said: oh sorry :P Ultimately im voting for HIllary Clinton. After hearing what she said about Anti- semitism in this speech and her opinion on foreign/domestic policy my support has only been strengthened If I were American, I'd vote for her or Bernie. Sadly, Bernie didn't held a speech, but Hillary really impressed me there. I didn't like her before, but now I like her more. But I'm not American and just a Jew in Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: can you explain what that means , I googled it still can't understand Don't generalize someone based on a single iota or event. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,194 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 hilary is bought and paid by adelson and saban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, VampireHeart said: Yikes. Like it's some sort of bravery to attend war mongering lobby and pander to Israel. I don't think you know anything about this subject. Half of your post is off topic. No men. It will brave to be there and say even what he said in that press release, which is a small thing when you think that Hillary actually put isralean side and palestian side on the same table so many times. She tried more than Bernie. He just talks and even now, when his chances to win are so small, you tell me that he doesnt have the courage to accept an invitation and say it like it is? I, for once, choose to believethat his schedule didnt permit him to assist and not what some of his supporters think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: It's not "the Jewish state". It's the State of Israel. "Jewish state" is only a political term because of the fact that most of its population is Jewish. Do you not even know the nomenclature of your own country? Do I also need to teach you history? Israel did not exist less than a century ago. Quote ancient history all you want. The Native Americans are the "rightful owners" of the USA territory. It does not give them the right to establish their own country. War dictates the ever changing borders of the world, and Israel was forcefully integrated from NOTHING, pushing all native Palestinians out from then on til now. The current status of Israel is horrible, not bad. Are you seriously approving of what is going with the Palestinians? Do you honestly agree with it? You would be one disgusting human being if you do. What is not bad are Israelis because many have nothing to do with the whole situation, especially the newer generations who are born into a current official country and have the right to remain there. It's why dismantling the horrible state of Israel is not a good option, but rather integration with the Palestinians. Of course as long as people who approve of apartheid statuses exist, and as long as some Palestinians still react violently to their oppression, the cycle of distrust and hatred will never end and there will always be conflict. Some days I wish I could just call on Yahweh to pull Israel and Palestine by the ears and tell them to sit down and shut up like the little babies they are and work together. Too bad. It could be also officially called the Jewish state imo. Doesn't mean muslims or christians can't live in it. No, I don't approve what happens to Palestinians, but if they don't stop, Israel won't stop, understandable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: "Arabs" ? Nice generalisation . Also if I were to come to your house and claim it mine "peacefully", you would just leave and let me have it? What? It were arab states who declared war on Israel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Simon said: It could be also officially called the Jewish state imo. Doesn't mean muslims or christians can't live in it. No, I don't approve what happens to Palestinians, but if they don't stop, Israel won't stop, understandable. The thing is, the people that originally used the "Jewish State" nomenclature are the Zionist Jews who represent everything that is bad about Israel. Its actual true goal is complete segregation, so a Zionist would not want Muslims or Christians either. Calling it a Jewish State is basically reaffirming that goal. How could you simultaneously call it a Jewish State and want integration with Palestinians? It's a paradox. Israel should exist but as a secular state. That's the only way that cycle can be broken. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: The thing is, the people that originally used the "Jewish State" nomenclature are the Zionist Jews who represent everything that is bad about Israel. Its actual true goal is complete segregation, so a Zionist would not want Muslims or Christians either. Calling it a Jewish State is basically reaffirming that goal. How could you simultaneously call it a Jewish State and want integration with Palestinians? It's a paradox. Israel should exist but as a secular state. That's the only way that cycle can be broken. I'm a Zionist because I believe it is the Jewish homeland and should be the place of refugee for Jews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm a Zionist because I believe it is the Jewish homeland and should be the place of refugee for Jews. You're a Zionist? Yet you quote Marx on your signature. You're a very complex person , that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Azor Ahai said: You're a Zionist? Yet you quote Marx on your signature. You're a very complex person , that's for sure. So what? Lol there are tons of communistic kibbutzim in Israel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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