Azealia Banks wants Iggy to commit Suicide

[GloZell Green 11,723]

2 minutes ago, Lance said:

All I saw was the Mariah Carey gif at the bottom and that was ENOUGH to let me know NOT to read this post. Once your fave focuses on YOU and not IGGY, then we'll talk

 

Just because I use a gif doesn't mean that I Stan them, oh my god  I literally just told you that I DON'T Stan AB but apparently that's too much for you to handle. Azealia makes amazing music. Critics recognize it. Bye. 

[inuborg 4,136]

1 minute ago, Kayla said:

Why did you have to quote the post to tell them you didn't read it? Either read it and actually respond or ignore it and actually ignore it, imo.

(I do agree that Azealia needs to focus on herself and her own fans instead of Iggy, though...)

which she's doing a terrible job at doing atm, btw

 

[Benji 20,113]

2 minutes ago, Kayla said:

I still haven't heard Team.  I kinda grew out of Iggy, tbh. (and that's not shade towards Iggy fans or anything- her music just didn't have staying power for me)

I would guess people didn't pick up on T.I.'s comment as much because T.I. isn't someone we really pay attention to. I mean...how many people here would say that are a T.I. stan or even own one of his albums? He's not on our radar. 
That being said- not having a thread about it doesn't mean we're excusing it. It doesn't mean we think it's okay when Iggy or her team does it but want to bash Azealia when she says the same. However, I do think we should note that Azealia comes for Iggy pretty incessantly, and Iggy rarely bites back. I'm not saying that it's fine for Iggy to say shitty things, but I am trying to point out that the scales here are veerrrry tipped when we put AB's disses on one side and Iggy's on the other. 
Yes, what T.I. said was inherently more offensive. But Azealia's constant attempts at insulting Iggy has been excessive for months now. 

The verses are fairly meh but I think the chorus is good, it's worth checking out 

True, but then isn't it funny how Iggy is portrayed as one of these perfect pop girls but people around her do all the drama for her? You wouldn't catch Bobby threatening people who tweet sh*t about Gaga 

It's also worth noting that AB didn't even mention Iggy in the past couple of months until Iggy actually spoke out about her.

[Glory 2,262]

Azealia is a so muuuuch better rapper than Iggy, like you can't even compare.
 

Yet she killed her talent with that stupid mouth she got.
 

Guess she was right in Chasing Time "My attitude is bitchy but you already knew that"

[lego 44,165]

3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Completely different. That's a joke, not aimed directly at the person involved. If she'd found this person's page and told them to go die, that would be different. Above all, it's an expression. Not the nicest, but just something we say without really meaning it seriously. It's not wishing death, it's just a turn of phrase. Saying it directly to someone who's expressed suicidal feelings, on the other hand...

 

It's not a joke, she was serious. You said no matter how awful person is, no one deserves that.

I can't believe you're saying it's ok if it's behind her back?

If one is horrible for wishing death, the other one is too.

What if that fan's manager was suicidal too? And he goes and tells her: "Iggy hired me and she has a message for you bitch, go and die!"

They are either both bad or none of them is. 

 

[StrawberryBlond 15,024]

38 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Some of you guys are being way too rude, and some of you took @StrawberryBlond's post out of context. 

 

No, @Benji she does not turn the TV off after 9pm out of fear of watching something that might offend someone. It's pretty clear that she simply does not want to support an artist like Azealia who has trashed multiple people over and over and over.

Also, offensive comments being "normal" in rap doesn't mean everyone has to accept it. Not to mention, in rap the disses historically came in the lyrics or at actual rap battles- not from behind a computer screen....
And just because you've heard worse elsewhere doesn't make this okay.

 

Futhermore, StrawberryBlond is not racist, @inuborg. Surely there is some inherent unintentional racism that all white people are guilty of, but at the end of the day the point she was making is that she doesn't understand how a group of people could like someone who has generalized and said rude things about them. 
You'll jump on Strawberry and call her "racist" after she makes a thoughtfully-written post but then turn around and get annoyed because you think people should just 'expect' AB's behavior by now, especially after she said "my attitude is bitchy but you already knew that" in a song.
At least StrawberryBlond is trying to be considerate of others when/if she perhaps steps out of line when referring to race. Can't say the same for Banks. (See: Azealia's tweets referencing Jewish people and people of other races)
Maybe you should expect StrawberryBlond to come into a topic about Azealia and give her opinion because it's just something she does, much like you expect people to expect bitchy behavior from Banks.
 

Also, you said if Banks doesn't "tickle her humor" she should move on with her life- don't you think Azealia should move on with her life too? Because clearly she doesn't tickle Iggy's humor anymore. 

I support what you're saying and you have got me right (more than some people do around here), but the only thing I take issue with is the bit about saying that all white people have some inherent racism in them and that I can sometimes step out of line in regards to the things I say about race. I've explained to people many a time that it's a cultural difference. I'm British and we treat racism very different here. It's not as bad as it is in America and our people aren't raised to be racist like some white Americans are. We have different ways of dealing with racism and different ways of looking at it. The discrimination isn't as strong, we don't have the same stereotypes (seriously, the whole fried chicken and watermelon stereotype is very alien to us because we just don't stereotype like that at all), we overall just deal with it differently. Racism definitely exists but it's a lot more subtle here (which is bad too, but the overt stuff is obviously much more damaging). Blacks also have much more opportunities here and certainly where I'm from (although Scotland's black population is very low), I see a lot who seem affluent and doing well for themselves. When you don't have that American culture, your views will be different. My ways of dealing with racism are in line with how my country works. But not every American understands that. But I think we could learn something from how other people do things, just try it out for a while, see if it works.

I've always been very offended whenever anyone calls me a racist because it's not me, its never been me, it never will be me. Ever since I was a little girl, I knew it was wrong to be mean to people who were different, I didn't even need to be taught that. I aim to educate whenever I see racism in public. I've tried to educate my dad for years to coach him out of his 50's upbringing of thinking nothing of stereotyping, even if it's not meant maliciously. I have a degree in religious studies and am used to researching cultures not like my own. Rap is one of my most favourite genres (less than 15% of my favourite albums are by whites). Black artists have defined areas of my life and I have always been fascinated about other races and cultures and have tried to live a life as cultured as one can for growing up in a white family in a white area and going to a white school. It unsettles me when people act like they know me when if they met me in real life, they would change their minds. But why should I upset myself trying to change online people's views of me? It's their problem, not mine. People in real life know the real me and that's all that matters. Though I can be a bit misunderstood there too. Every "problematic" view I come out with comes from a genuine place of compassion. I want to help people improve, improve communities, further ourselves. But if it differs from what we're "supposed" to believe, people want to think it's ignorant when it's just a researched, different way of thinking.

18 minutes ago, inuborg said:

The difference between me and SB is that, she is the one implying that Azealia fans are bad people. And the black ones especially are crazy. (notice how she picked out black when Azealia has called out gays as well). Her outside knowledge/ignorance is so dense it's honestly frustrating. She has no clue on race issues, and yet she always act like she does, and it goes deeper than AB vs Iggy. And I do, and while continue to, find it strange at the people who every time Azealia says something off color (at least once a week it seems) they proclaim how disgusted they are and that she's a bad person and they anyone who likes her is also a bad person, when she's been in the limelight for 4 years now. Honestly how can anyone be surprised. Not much as excusing or expecting the behavior, its more like...different day, same ****. (As a die hard fan, that's how I feel) In the 2012 yeah I was taken a back at some of the things she said. But now its just like "oh Azealia, girl"l *Eyeroll* and that's it. Azealia does not dwell on the things she says as much as her dissenters do. She was over that comment probably before she hit send. 

Like I said, everything in this world is not for everyone. 

I don't think the black ones in particular are crazy and I didn't use those words. I was going to bring up her gay fans too, but the discussion was about race, so I kept it limited. But for the record, I also am baffled as to why she's still got gay fans when she's said homophobic and transphobic stuff multiple times (it was actually this that put me off her and I'm a straight female), along with any other fan who's part of a group she insulted. I am not dense, I know so much more about race issues than you think. Are you even aware of all the times I've spoken up for black people here? Including, of course, against Azealia! Don't you realise when you say this that I get the impression that you assume I'm ignorant because I'm white? No, it doesn't go deeper than you think and I'm accepting of all races, colours and creeds, it's just that I don't think anyone's immune to criticism. There's good and bad in all groups and good and bad within us all. If you do something good, you get praise, if you do something bad, you get criticism. I'm a realist. I tell it like it is. Yes, constantly putting down what Azealia says may be tiring but I feel it's necessary to make it clear that hate speech is unacceptable, especially when people start commenting and find a way to validate it. I think we're in a dangerous place when this stuff is acceptable.

17 minutes ago, inuborg said:

OMG GIRL

What Azealia said was a joke, not directly aimed at the person involved. So. What. Is. The Difference? 

Edit: Also, how many Iggy threads have I been in? One

Of course it was aimed at her. She tweeted it under the video where Iggy makes the comments. That's just one step away from @'ing her directly. Iggy's words had acceptable context (being disparaging to someone who had been mean to a fan) and wasn't aimed at the person involved. Azealia's had an unacceptable context (saying that someone who envisioned committing suicide should have done it simply because she doesn't like her) and was aimed directly at her. Different ball game.

And you've been in multiple threads insulting her. Can't count exactly, but you have. Remember "mayo devil?" Cause I sure do.

11 minutes ago, Kayla said:

I still haven't heard Team.  I kinda grew out of Iggy, tbh. (and that's not shade towards Iggy fans or anything- her music just didn't have staying power for me)

I think you might like Team. I've been jamming to it everyday. Loud, commanding, great beat that makes you want to dance, and Iggy's rapping has got even faster and she even sings the chorus. Critics have given it great reviews. The video (first version) is even full of minority dancers, I think there was only one white person (I think her team feel the need to do this for obvious reasons *eyeroll*) and I said when it was released that if a black person had released it, everyone would have been far more accepting. At least the critics have praised it, even if the public won't. Team is way better than Formation and Work combined but isn't seen as such because of her race. White people have a hard time breaking into rap no matter how good they are. Eminem's the only exception, especially in America. At least in Britain, we don't have that prejudice as bad. I don't care what colour a rapper is, so long as they make good music and when I'm in the mood for fun, lighthearted rap, Iggy's my go-to rapper.

11 minutes ago, Benji said:

You implied you're better for being offended for other people? That's what I'm getting at. You even single out people who supposedly should be offended because you feel offended for them? I'm not saying people can't be offended but don't imply you're better than people here because you're offended for other people

You don't get to decide what people can and can't enjoy.

It's not that I think I'm better, just...shouldn't we all have empathy? Shouldn't we encourage it? I just think it's a bit off when this is looked at as a negative thing. There's not much more to say. I'm encouraging people to have pride in themselves too. Don't support someone who insults your group, especially if you're marginalized. How is that going to improve things for your group if you make bigots successful? It's just common sense. Celebrities are only successful if the public make them so. If the public make a bigot successful, that's going to encourage more bigots to pursue fame and for labels to sign bigots as the public clearly doesn't mind. See what I'm getting at? I like my celebrities to be nice. I don't see why that's so weird.

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15 hours ago, OliG said:

how can people stan for this woman and actually think she has talent? she is no more than pure bs 

Hole up sis

She does have talent. But she got a bad ass little attitude, and is incredibly ignorant and arrogant. "I try not to listen because problematic," a dear friend summed up beautifully but girl if chasing time starts playin I become a slave to the music. I hate the puta tho.

[Kayla 7,595]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

the only thing I take issue with is the bit about saying that all white people have some inherent racism in them and that I can sometimes step out of line in regards to the things I say about race. I've explained to people many a time that it's a cultural difference. I'm British and we treat racism very different here. It's not as bad as it is in America and our people aren't raised to be racist like some white Americans are.

The "inherent racism" I reference is definitely a USA thing that perhaps carries over to other cultures, but I don't know for sure. Know that I do see your compassion and understanding coming through in your posts; I don't think you are racist at all. I was mostly referring to aspects of your statements which could exhibit a bit of a "racist" undertone (referring specifically to the black fans, which you later clarified, calling them "blacks," etc.) And perhaps those are only things that raise a red flag in America- usually the type of people who call them "blacks" collectively don't have positive things to say (but at least "blacks" is better than using "coloreds"....).

In America the words people use to talk about race issues can be indicators of how they really feel deep down about said issues. And I think where you're from some of those words and ways of speaking aren't as good of indicators of where you really stand.
In America, you sometimes have to read between the lines to 'spot the racist,' since of course people aren't open about being racist. People here will literally talk about how lazy their 'colored' co-workers are, how black fathers are irresponsible, and how blacks and whites shouldn't marry, but then insist that they're "not racist" and "don't have a problem with black people as a whole."
So some of your word choices and criticisms would be a red flag to an American talking about race issues, but that's just us being paranoid.

 

 

Also, on the topic of Azealia, I have been feeling more and more like she's like the Donald Trump of the music industry. She's smart at her business but horrible when it comes to dealing with people, is offensive to many groups but criticizes other people who say the wrong thing, her fans defend and excuse her belligerent and vile behavior, and no amount of evidence of her negative attributes will get her to stop and consider how she interacts with others; she literally gives NO ****s about how others feel and is known more for her outbursts than her actual good ideas. 

[Fish 6,229]

messy thread.

[Bad Bromance 5,809]

This woman is disgusting.  I don't see how anybody can stan for her when her attitude and personality are as ugly as f*ck.  I have no respect for her and wish she would just disappear from the music industry for good.

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5 hours ago, Benji said:

The verses are fairly meh but I think the chorus is good, it's worth checking out 

True, but then isn't it funny how Iggy is portrayed as one of these perfect pop girls but people around her do all the drama for her? You wouldn't catch Bobby threatening people who tweet sh*t about Gaga 

It's also worth noting that AB didn't even mention Iggy in the past couple of months until Iggy actually spoke out about her.

I'm don't mean to justify T.I.'s statements but he threatened Azealia because of what she was saying about Iggy, he threatened her because Azealia dissed his wife on Twitter.

[Yanko 9,860]

5 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Completely different. That's a joke, not aimed directly at the person involved. If she'd found this person's page and told them to go die, that would be different. Above all, it's an expression. Not the nicest, but just something we say without really meaning it seriously. It's not wishing death, it's just a turn of phrase. Saying it directly to someone who's expressed suicidal feelings, on the other hand...

 

excuses for igloo never run out 

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

27 minutes ago, Yanko said:

excuses for igloo never run out 

hmm....if this username is allowed, I'm pretty sure I can start calling azealia Bankrupt now?

 

 

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19 hours ago, SlaeUrAnus said:

I personally find this disgusting, but this no surprise coming from this cretin. 

She apologised numerous upon numerous times, but if you feel like she should commit suicide over it then you are damn right ****ing sick.

I don't think she should kill herself but I don't get why she's been so surprised by the hate she has received. And tbh, after apologizing she still hasn't really done anything for the black community. With black culture comes black issues, you can't just take the good out of a groups culture.

[Benji 20,113]

10 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It's not that I think I'm better, just...shouldn't we all have empathy? Shouldn't we encourage it? I just think it's a bit off when this is looked at as a negative thing. There's not much more to say. I'm encouraging people to have pride in themselves too. Don't support someone who insults your group, especially if you're marginalized. How is that going to improve things for your group if you make bigots successful? It's just common sense. Celebrities are only successful if the public make them so. If the public make a bigot successful, that's going to encourage more bigots to pursue fame and for labels to sign bigots as the public clearly doesn't mind. See what I'm getting at? I like my celebrities to be nice. I don't see why that's so weird.

Encouraging people to have pride in themselves? Who exactly do you think you are?

I will choose what I am offended by. I don't need you to decide it for me and I especially don't need you saying I lack empathy and have less pride because I don't agree with you?