lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Paris- Six Jewish vigilantes were jailed in Paris on Friday over a "savage gang attack" targeting attendees at a fundraising event for Gaza in 2009. The defendants used iron bars, baseball bats and bike chains in the onslaught, in which they deliberately targeted anybody who looked like a Muslim. Among their victims was a 22-year-old singer who suffered a "lynching" by the 20-strong mob who chanted ‘Death to Arabs’ and ‘Long live Israel!’ All were leading members of the Jewish Defence League (JDL), a notorious vigilante group that is outlawed in both America and Israel because of its links with terrorism. Despite this, the JDL is allowed to demonstrate openly in France, and its yellow and black clenched fist flags are regularly seen at events across the country. A court in the French capital heard how all six had beaten up Hatem Essabbak and Mustapha Belkhir outside a Paris theatre in April 2009. The case is considered one of the most sensitive in recent legal history, because of the way it illustrates how the Israel-Palestine conflict has been exported to the streets of major French cities. No less than five examining judges were involved in the Paris enquiry, with four resigning one after the other because of the intense pressure. The six men found guilty of carrying out aggravated violent assaults were Jason Tibi, Rudy Lalou, Azar Cohen, Maxime Schaffier, Yoia Bensimou, and Yoni Sulman. Other JDL gang members are said to have fled to Israel to avoid prosecution, while Tibi has admitted serving in the Israeli army while waiting for his case to come to court. At least two of those convicted today have since fled to Israel. A damning verdict reads: "The facts of this case illustrate how the violence was aggravated by victims being targeted because of their race and religion." Dominique Cochain, Essabbak’s barrister, said: "Normally, this type of case is dealt with within three months. It has to be said that this is a very sensitive issue." Essabbak, a 22-year-old singer at the time, was with his girlfriend outside the Adyar Theatre, close to the Eiffel Tower, on Sunday 12 April, 2009. Both were taking part in Our Talents for Gaza – a showbiz event raising money for the surviving families of more than 1,400 Palestinians, including 400 children, killed by Israeli forces during an offensive a few weeks before. Essabbak was surrounded by the JDL men who used iron bars, bats, bike chains, crash helmets and fists in the "unprovoked lynching," the court heard. Essabbak said: "I was repeatedly hit in the face, around the head, and on both legs. I then fell to the ground, and was hit again around the head. They carried on until they saw I wasn’t moving. My life stopped on 12 April, 2009." Mustapha Belkhir went to help Essabbak and was also badly beaten up. Both men ended up in hospital. Witnesses heard the attackers shouting: "Have this, it’s for Gaza, you dirty Arab," and "Us Jews are going to f*** you, you dirty race". Most of the JDL members had their faces covered, but their mobile phones were later traced to the scene of the attack. Tibi – who was described in court as the leader of the group – at first denied any knowledge of the attacks, but admitted taking part when confronted with evidence. Tibi and and Sulman received two-year sentences, while the others were handed sentences of between nine months and a year. Beyond the theatre attack, 27-year-old Tibi has a previous prison conviction for smashing up a Palestinian book shop in Paris, and has been filmed fighting in Marseille. Ms Cochain told the court: "The evidence is that Mr Tibi has not changed. Videos on Google show that in 2011 he disrupted a pro-Palestine meeting in the 14th arrondissement of Paris, accompanied by JDL members, and wanted to stop debate. "They were shouting slogans like ‘F*** Palestine’. He was also in Marseille in June 2011 to protest against the Gaza flotilla taking supplies to the blockaded Palestinian territory. His face was covered in blood and he was saying ‘I’m here to protest’, ‘Israel will live, Israel will vanquish’." The JDL is regularly involved in attacks on pro-Palestine activists, politicians, journalists and other perceived enemies across France. There have been numerous calls to ban the JDL in France, with Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve condemning their behaviour as "excessive". - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jewish-vigilantes-jailed-over-paris-attack-gaza-fundraising-event-1637997442#.dpuf BDS - a civil society movement is 'illegal' in France, terrorist group JDL is not. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: Tibi and and Sulman received two-year sentences, while the others were handed sentences of between nine months and a year. Too little. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 128,820 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 damn the punishment is so little.. well.. France will do everything to shut up the minorities in their country. Honestly I wouldn't care if the police would shoot them.. they need to ****ing stop. Thankfully this terrorist group is outlawed in the USA and Israel.. I don't understand why it's not globally.. where is the UN or the EU? wtf is wrong with them? *BDS are violent too, they are not innocent and just using the Palestinians for their own psychotic agenda* So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Not u minimising BDS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 The generalizations and inorance... The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement (BDS Movement) is a global campaign attempting to increase economic and political pressure on Israel to comply with the stated goals of the movement: the end of Israel's occupation and colonization of Palestinian land and the Golan Heights, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and respect for the right of return of Palestinian refugees. The campaign was started on 9 July 2005 by 171 Palestinian non-governmental organizations in support of the Palestinian cause for boycott, divestment andinternational sanctions against Israel. Citing a body of UN resolutions and specifically echoing the anti-apartheid campaigns against white minority rule in apartheid era South Africa, the BDS campaign called for "various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law". SodaStream admits bowing to boycott pressure https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ryan-rodrick-beiler/sodastream-admits-bowing-boycott-pressure Ahava moving factory out of West Bank following BDS pressure http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4776979,00.html vs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/jewish-defense-league https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terror/terrorism-2000-2001/?searchterm=JDL FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 20 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: The generalizations and inorance... The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement (BDS Movement) is a global campaign attempting to increase economic and political pressure on Israel to comply with the stated goals of the movement: the end of Israel's occupation and colonization of Palestinian land and the Golan Heights, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and respect for the right of return of Palestinian refugees. The campaign was started on 9 July 2005 by 171 Palestinian non-governmental organizations in support of the Palestinian cause for boycott, divestment andinternational sanctions against Israel. Citing a body of UN resolutions and specifically echoing the anti-apartheid campaigns against white minority rule in apartheid era South Africa, the BDS campaign called for "various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law". SodaStream admits bowing to boycott pressure https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ryan-rodrick-beiler/sodastream-admits-bowing-boycott-pressure Ahava moving factory out of West Bank following BDS pressure http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4776979,00.html vs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/jewish-defense-league https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terror/terrorism-2000-2001/?searchterm=JDL Please in my city they organised a demonstration yelling to stab all the Jews. They stand in front of kosher shops and synagogues handing out their flyers and get aggressive when you don't want to take it. They are the new anti Semites. They are one of the reason why Jews in Europe leave Europe and go to Israel. Especially in countries like France where BDS is big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Simon said: Please in my city they organised a demonstration yelling to stab all the Jews. They stand in front of kosher shops and synagogues handing out their flyers and get aggressive when you don't want to take it. They are the new anti Semites. They are one of the reason why Jews in Europe leave Europe and go to Israel. Especially in countries like France where BDS is big. It's a global movement. Anyone can be part of it. The goals are non-violent. You telling every BDS supporting individual is violent and antisemite is like people say all Jews rule the world and support killing of gentiles. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Just now, VampireHeart said: It's a global movement. Anyone can be part of it. The goals are non-violent. You telling every BDS supporting individual is violent and antisemite is like people say all Jews rule the world and support killing of gentiles. So you compare anti Semitism to criticism of a violent group? Seriously ? Is like saying reverse racism is a thing lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Simon said: Please in my city they organised a demonstration yelling to stab all the Jews. They stand in front of kosher shops and synagogues handing out their flyers and get aggressive when you don't want to take it. They are the new anti Semites. They are one of the reason why Jews in Europe leave Europe and go to Israel. Especially in countries like France where BDS is big. So please explain why is terrorist organization like Jewish Defence League not banned in France? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: So please explain why is terrorist organization like Jewish Defence League not banned in France? Ask France, not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Simon said: So you compare anti Semitism to criticism of a violent group? Seriously ? Is like saying reverse racism is a thing lol. You're generalizing and stereotyping. You have prejudice against each individual who supports BDS. It's very similar to belief that members of one group have specific traits. It's not criticism, it's call for ban. They're two different things. Again, the priorities - one is banned, other one is not. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: You're generalizing and stereotyping. You have prejudice against each individual who supports BDS. It's very similar to belief that members of one group have specific traits. It's not criticism, it's call for ban. They're two different things. Again, the priorities - one is banned, other one is not. Just accept your comparison is ****. If someone made it with Muslims you'd climb the wall. Yes i want bds bds banned because it's threatening Jewish life in the diaspora. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Simon said: Just accept your comparison is ****. If someone made it with Muslims you'd climb the wall. Yes i want bds bds banned because it's threatening Jewish life in the diaspora. Climb the wall? lmao No I wouldn't care. It's the same thing. You are against freedom of speech/freedom of expression and you support the occupation. What other choices there are, please tell us what will make Israel to give largest refugee group - Palestinians to have right to return to their homeland? If they are violent it's bad, if they're not it's bad. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: Climb the wall? lmao No I wouldn't care. It's the same thing. You are against freedom of speech/freedom of expression and you support the occupation. What other choices there are, please tell us what will make Israel to give largest refugee group - Palestinians to have right to return to their homeland? If they are violent it's bad, if they're not it's bad. For me Israel just can drop the West Bank and gaza and take the settlements away. What the Palestine makes then is not of my business. If they start war though, Israel can respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Just now, Simon said: For me Israel just can drop the West Bank and gaza and take the settlements away. What the Palestine makes then is not of my business. If they start war though, Israel can respond. But they're not doing any of that so what are the options? Depends what you call "starting the war", it's always Israel who decides WHO started it. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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