Lady Gaga "I'm not any color, I'm just me <3"

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

10 minutes ago, Metamorphosis said:

Apparently you do.

If you don't, what chance do I have?

[gag 22,449]

34 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

I don't know why Asians spend billions upon billions of dollars lightening their skin. Better job prospects or dating prospects maybe?

But how about instead of reading an academic journal, why don't you just simply ask an Asian person why they use the lightening cream? There are millions of them.

Having lived in an Asian and a Western country before, skin-lightening is connected to being rich through classism (more often than racism). In Asian countries, the lower class tends to work outside in the heat which causes them to be extremely tan; being tan is coupled with being poor. Whereas the higher class could stay inside away from hard labour causing them to have a lighter complexion. Which is classism.

Alternatively, in the UK, most people desire to be tanner since it's a symbol of how you're able to afford holidays to 'exotic' countries. Being pale in the UK is regularly deemed undesirable hence why so many people use spray tans.

Obviously this cannot be said by every single person who wants to change their skin color since there are obviously people desire a different skin color because of racism, but it's generally classism.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

15 minutes ago, gag said:

Having lived in an Asian and a Western country before, skin-lightening is connected to being rich through classism (more often than racism). In Asian countries, the lower class tends to work outside in the heat which causes them to be extremely tan; being tan is coupled with being poor. Whereas the higher class could stay inside away from hard labour causing them to have a lighter complexion. Which is classism.

Alternatively, in the UK, most people desire to be tanner since it's a symbol of how you're able to afford holidays to 'exotic' countries. Being pale in the UK is regularly deemed undesirable hence why so many people use spray tans.

Obviously this cannot be said by every single person who wants to change their skin color since there are obviously people desire a different skin color because of racism, but it's generally classism.

I hear that excuse often, but I think the issue goes deeper than just economics.

The indigenous peoples of Asia (such as the Negrito, the Semang, the Andamanese and the Mani) were all dark-skinned.

I think racism in Asia goes way back to prehistoric times, when the Aboriginal Asians had their lands seized and conquered by lighter-skinned Asians.

 

[Angel Down 2,807]

Some of you guys are so cringe-worthy... Lmao you're so desperately trying to make everyone look racist and ignorant. Gaga said the right thing. Her being white doesn't define her, the same way Beyonce shouldn't be defined by her being black. We're here for music and art. Gaga excells at it. Move on with your life and fight people who are racists indeed. Get rid of your frustrations somewhere else. 

[Evan Peters 10,738]

8 hours ago, yourfaves said:

Gaga girl.  You're white.  Whether she likes it or not being white has given her an advantage in life and she needs to recognize that.

because this tweet very obviously means she doesn't know she has some sort of privilege?? ya'll try way too much. 

[Runway 27,876]

People writing walls of text over 7 words she said  

 

ha power

[Andreyw 4,285]

this thread is really dumb, and also some comments are even something more than dumb

[SlaeUrAnus 15,955]

1 hour ago, Runway said:

People writing walls of text over 7 words she said  

 

ha power

Gaga manages the stir the pot with less than 30 characters 

[Yanko 9,860]

cringe 

[What About Us 1,499]

Some of you reaaaally blew this out of proportion. Stop making it a bigger deal than it has to be.

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

5 hours ago, holyscheisse said:

Everyone is taught racism dahling, direct and indirectly. Many Asian people already have light skin, lighter than many a Caucasian in the summertime. You say they lighten their skin because they want to be white-do you mean in literal color or in racial resemblance? And do you know them all personally?(asking cause that seems to be a valid question for you based on your own posts)

What if porcelain skin is just an attractive trait in Asia Like how western white people tend to find a sun tan to be attractive? 

Send me academic literature and then I'll apologize for my ignorance 

Even though a lot of asians have light skin, its actually different than many europeans. Many light skin asians still have melanin on their skin which is why they age amazingly. Light skin asians still have brown and yellow undertones like many other minorities (POC) which is why they are considered colored people. Even the palest japanese person has brow undertones (brown nipples, brown elbows, brown private parts). You'll only see pale pink/red undertones in white or some latino people. 

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

4 hours ago, Lord Temptation said:

I hear that excuse often, but I think the issue goes deeper than just economics.

The indigenous peoples of Asia (such as the Negrito, the Semang, the Andamanese and the Mani) were all dark-skinned.

I think racism in Asia goes way back to prehistoric times, when the Aboriginal Asians had their lands seized and conquered by lighter-skinned Asians.

 

I understand you and tbh you're right but you shouldn't generalize that all asians are that way. I do get what you mean though. Nothing is worse than self hating white washed minorities. It's not so much about the skin bleaching but more so the idea behind it. It makes me sick that some asian women turn down their own asian men just to use their white boyfriends as trophies and to show off when in reality no one cares, if anything you look embarrassing and insecure.

Asian women/white men is the most common interracial couple BUT also the most common interracial DIVORCE/Split. White men/black women are the least common interracial couple but they have more bi-racial kids than asian women/white men because that pair (asian/white) is commonly divorced or split which leads to no kids and explains why asian/white are the least common biracial people.

I had a gay asian friend from this VERY site and I had to part ways with him because he was the most white washed person I've ever met and it was very disgusting. He would always say ignorant things like "I could only ever date and marry a white man because they are pure and have typical family morals"  I took that offensive because I'm half latino through my mother and people always stereotyped her. My father is white and his friends would always assume my mother was a maid or something until my father decided to unfriend those people.

 

I told my friend that he was ignorant and I asked him whats wrong with your very kind "asian men" or black, latino or middle easterns? and he told me that he has nothing against them but he just thinks white men are better and more handsome. The worst thing he said to me was that he classified me as "white" instead of mixed but I told him to **** off because my mom is latina which makes me LATINO whether he likes it or not. In a way I kinda felt like Gaga in that situation she was in with Perez Hilton in that special in 2011. I saw through his shiit and realized he is a ****ed up person. I cleverly reminded him "good luck finding that white guy you dream of because asian guys are at the VERY bottom of the list to when it comes to gay white men". He always got jealous when he saw black and white gay couples but I told him he should be proud of being asian. Asian is beautiful. Stop being whitewashed and date your fellow asian men because they are beautiful. Unfortunately he didn't take my advice. One thing I notice is that black and white gay couples love each other for who they are not their skin colors. With asian and white gay couples (rare) its like SOME asian guys uses their white boyfriend as a trophy  Just be proud of your race and don't be so shallow minded. My friend tried contacting me last week but I just dont want to be his friend. I'm glad he understands how close minded he is and now that he changed but I still dont care for our friendship but I forgive him. My other friend is Japanese and I love her because she's proud of her race and proud of where she comes from. She is beautiful and never turns down her fellow Asian men. She loves everyone no matter their skin color. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

32 minutes ago, Asshole said:

I understand you and tbh you're right but you shouldn't generalize that all asians are that way. I do get what you mean though. Nothing is worse than self hating white washed minorities. It's not so much about the skin bleaching but more so the idea behind it. It makes me sick that some asian women turn down their own asian men just to use their white boyfriends as trophies and to show off when in reality no one cares, if anything you look embarrassing and insecure.

Asian women/white men is the most common interracial couple BUT also the most common interracial DIVORCE/Split. White men/black women are the least common interracial couple but they have more bi-racial kids than asian women/white men because that pair (asian/white) is commonly divorced or split which leads to no kids and explains why asian/white are the least common biracial people.

I had a gay asian friend from this VERY site and I had to part ways with him because he was the most white washed person I've ever met and it was very disgusting. He would always say ignorant things like "I could only ever date and marry a white man because they are pure and have typical family morals"  I took that offensive because I'm half latino through my mother and people always stereotyped her. My father is white and his friends would always assume my mother was a maid or something until my father decided to unfriend those people.

 

I told my friend that he was ignorant and I asked him whats wrong with your very kind "asian men" or black, latino or middle easterns? and he told me that he has nothing against them but he just thinks white men are better and more handsome. The worst thing he said to me was that he classified me as "white" instead of mixed but I told him to **** off because my mom is latina which makes me LATINO whether he likes it or not. In a way I kinda felt like Gaga in that situation she was in with Perez Hilton in that special in 2011. I saw through his shiit and realized he is a ****ed up person. I cleverly reminded him "good luck finding that white guy you dream of because asian guys are at the VERY bottom of the list to when it comes to gay white men". He always got jealous when he saw black and white gay couples but I told him he should be proud of being asian. Asian is beautiful. Stop being whitewashed and date your fellow asian men because they are beautiful. Unfortunately he didn't take my advice. One thing I notice is that black and white gay couples love each other for who they are not their skin colors. With asian and white gay couples (rare) its like SOME asian guys uses their white boyfriend as a trophy  Just be proud of your race and don't be so shallow minded. My friend tried contacting me last week but I just dont want to be his friend. I'm glad he understands how close minded he is and now that he changed but I still dont care for our friendship but I forgive him. My other friend is Japanese and I love her because she's proud of her race and proud of where she comes from. She is beautiful and never turns down her fellow Asian men. She loves everyone no matter their skin color. 

Thank you for your honest and heartfelt reply! I'm sorry to hear you had the falling out with your friend. Friendships can be toxic, and it sounds like you made the right decision by leaving your friend. I don't have any bigoted friends either, and I'll be damned if I ever do. Sometimes leaving someone is what it takes for them to change. When a person has so much unprocessed internalised hate it can manifest itself in ugly ways. They become self obsessed and start to see people as labels and objects. Anyway, hopefully maybe one day you guys can reconcile. Back to what I said before about Asians being racist towards each other. Asians, culturally speaking, are obsessed with wealth and prosperity. They equate success with hard work, Confucianism and Imperialism have played an important role in developing this mindset. They generally view themselves (their country) at the top of other Asian countries, except they acknowledge that Western countries are still richer - and that makes white people an appealing status object. Hence why Asian girls (and I guess gay Asian males) prefer to date non-Asian men. I live in Sydney which has a massive Asian population, and somehow in the last ten years mixed race couples have exploded. They're literally everywhere. But I think here the relationships seem genuine. I don't know about the gay scene (I don't have any gay friends) but on the street it seems like mixed ethnic couples are the norm. So, just wanted to share a bit about where I'm coming from. I'm myself mixed race (French and Cambodian).

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

7 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Thank you for your honest and heartfelt reply! I'm sorry to hear you had the falling out with your friend. Friendships can be toxic, and it sounds like you made the right decision by leaving your friend. I don't have any bigoted friends either, and I'll be damned if I ever do. Sometimes leaving someone is what it takes for them to change. When a person has so much unprocessed internalised hate it can manifest itself in ugly ways. They become self obsessed and start to see people as labels and objects. Anyway, hopefully maybe one day you guys can reconcile. Back to what I said before about Asians being racist towards each other. Asians, culturally speaking, are obsessed with wealth and prosperity. They equate success with hard work, Confucianism and Imperialism have played an important role in developing this mindset. They generally view themselves (their country) at the top of other Asian countries, except they acknowledge that Western countries are still richer - and that makes white people an appealing status object. Hence why Asian girls (and I guess gay Asian males) prefer to date non-Asian men. I live in Sydney which has a massive Asian population, and somehow in the last ten years mixed race couples have exploded. They're literally everywhere. But I think here the relationships seem genuine. I don't know about the gay scene (I don't have any gay friends) but on the street it seems like mixed ethnic couples are the norm. So, just wanted to share a bit about where I'm coming from. I'm myself mixed race (French and Cambodian).

They're definitely genuine interracial relationships and I applaud them. I just think every race is beautiful and we should be open minded to them especially our own race. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, Asshole said:

They're definitely genuine interracial relationships and I applaud them. I just think every race is beautiful and we should be open minded to them especially our own race. 

Definitely! Beauty, and masculinity, comes in all shapes, shades and packages! The most important thing to me is self respect and respect for others!