Bernie caught lying or omitting the entire truth.

[RainingOnMe 7,280]

1 hour ago, creeves said:

This "movement" by Hillary fans over the last few weeks to salvage her credibility is just laughable. 

Your candidate, widely seen as the most dishonest person in the race, is running against Bernie, widely seen as the most honest person in the race. You can't win this election on honesty. She's lied too much for that.

 

She should be in jail for her email fraud, let alone running for president

 

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, Draug said:

did you actually watch the vid or read the OP or are you just saying this just cause?

please improve your posts or your thinking routine

Yes, I did both. 

Don't tell me what to do of how to think. My thoughts are formed from years of following politics and reading and watching information and interviews from the current candidates. 

[RainingOnMe 7,280]

Just now, Whispering said:

Yes, I did both. 

Don't tell me what to do of how to think. My thoughts are formed from years of following politics and reading and watching information and interviews from the current candidates. 

kaekae

[Iwontell 7,312]

10 hours ago, SKANK said:

According to the UN's World Health Organization, Cuba's health care system is an example for all countries of the world.

The Cuban health system is recognized worldwide for its excellence and its efficiency. Despite extremely limited resources and the dramatic impact caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the United States for more than half a century, Cuba has managed to guarantee access to care for all segments of the population and obtain results similar to those of the most developed nations.

During her recent visit to Havana in July of 2014, Margaret Chan, Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO), impressed by the country's achievements in this field, praised the Cuban health care system: "Cuba is the only country that has a health care system closely linked to research and development. This is the way to go, because human health can only improve through innovation," She also praised "the efforts of the country's leadership for having made health an essential pillar of development" [1].

Cuba's health care system is based on preventive medicine and the results achieved are outstanding. According to Margaret Chan, the world should follow the example of the island in this arena and replace the curative model, inefficient and more expensive, with a prevention-based system. "We sincerely hope that all of the world's inhabitants will have access to quality medical services, as they do in Cuba," she said. [2]

WHO notes that the lack of access to care in the world is by no means a foregone conclusion arising from a lack of resources. It reflects, instead, a lack of political will on the part of leaders to protect their most vulnerable populations. The organization cites the case of the Caribbean island as the perfect counter-example [3]. Moreover, in May 2014, in recognition of the excellence of its health care system, Cuba chaired the 67th World Health Assembly [4].

With an infant mortality rate of 4.2 per thousand births, the Caribbean island is the best performer on the continent and in the Third World generally. This is also demonstrated by the quality of its health care system and the impact it has on the well-being of children and pregnant women. The infant mortality rate in Cuba is lower than it is in the United States and is among the lowest in the world. [5]

With a life expectancy of 78 years, Cuba is one of the best performers on the American continent and in the Third World, achieving results similar to those of most developed nations. On the average, Cubans live 30 years longer than their Haitian neighbors. In 2025, Cuba will have the highest proportion of its population over the age of 60 in all of Latin America. [6]

A health system that serves the people of the Third World

Cuban expertise in the field of health also benefits the people of the Third World. Indeed, since 1963, Cuba has sent doctors and other health workers throughout the Third World to treat the poor. Currently, nearly 30,000 Cuban medical staff are working in over 60 countries around the world. [7]

The iconic example of this solidarity with the poorest of the earth is Operation Miracle, a major vision restoration program launched in 2004 by Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez. This humanitarian campaign, implemented at the continental level under the aegis of the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA), operates without charge on the Latin American poor who suffer from cataracts and other eye diseases [8].

In a decade, nearly 3.5 million people have had their vision restored through this example of Cuban internationalism. Initially created for Venezuela, this social program was extended to the entire continent with the objective of operating on a total of six million people. In addition to surgery, Mission Miracle, a strategy for improving the program's reach and performance, provides free eyeglasses and contact lenses for people with vision impairment. [9]

In total, nearly 165 Cuban institutions participate in Operation Miracle, which maintains a network of 49 ophthalmological centers and 82 surgical units in 14 countries in Latin America: Bolivia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Grenada, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Venezuela and Uruguay. [10]

Cuban medical solidarity also extends to Africa. In 2014, LABIOFAM, the Cuban chemical and biopharmaceutical research institute, launched a vaccination campaign against malaria in no fewer than 15 West African countries. [11] According to WHO, the virus, which affects mostly children, costs the lives of some 630,000 people a year, "most of them children under five living in Africa." The organization emphasizes that "This means that 1,000 young children die every day from malaria [12]."

Similarly, Cuba trains young physicians worldwide in its Latin American School of Medicine (ELAM). Since its inception in 1998, ELAM has graduated more than 20,000 doctors from over 123 countries. Currently, 11,000 young people from over 120 nations follow a career in medicine at the Cuban institution. According to Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General of the UN, ELAM is "the world's most advanced medical school." He also praised the Cuban doctors working around the world, including those in Haiti: "They are always the first to arrive and the last to leave. They remain in place after the crises. Cuba can be proud of its health care system, a model for many countries [13]."

In praising Cuba, the World Health Organization stresses that it is possible for Third-world countries with limited resources to implement an efficient health care system and provide all segments of the population with social protection worthy of the name. This is possible if the political will exists to put human beings at the center of the project.

 

Source: Huffington Post

Well, I know a few Cuban doctors (the government paid for them to be sent here and work on smaller towns - actually through "Mais Médicos" they paid the Cuban dictatorship, who kept 70% of the money and only delivered 30% of the salary the doctors were supposed to get...) and the stories they tell are oh-so-different from what those numbers suggest...

Idk, I'd never trust data collected and distributed by any dictatorship, bc everything they do is just to legitimate their continuity in power...

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

10 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said:

Bernie is really scatterbrained, Hilary is a liar, Trump is racist, etc. All presidential candidates this year are a joke imo. 

Welcome to politics  They are all corrupt and dishonest.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

10 minutes ago, Draug said:

did you actually watch the vid or read the OP or are you just saying this just cause?

please improve your posts or your thinking routine

Please don't attack people on this thread. It's a debate. If you have nothing to add about the debate except attacking people personally then don't post. I will be reporting anyone attacking people personally no matter if you are a Bernie or Hillary supporter. Keep the conversation going about the politics please. 

[Iwontell 7,312]

Dude, there's no "pure" candidate...no one survives in the political arena without compromising here and there and it's infantile to think that Bernie is going to be immune to that reality. 

However, among the candidates, he seems to be the one who's more willing to work in the ppl's best interest...and I say that while recognizing the highly demagogical nature of his discourse...

[RainingOnMe 7,280]

Just now, just4fun said:

Please don't attack people on this thread. It's a debate. If you have nothing to add to the debate except attacking people personally then don't post. I will be reporting anyone attacking people personally not matter if you are a Bernie or Hillary supporter. Keep the conversation going about the politics please. 

I'm sorry that you feel the need to quote someone who didn't quote you. I didn't attack anyone. Please don't quote me again.

[Chelseaaaaaa 1,453]

Actually, I don't support Hillary because she's in Wall Street's pocket, laughs at rape victims, implements racist policies, & clearly doesn't give a crap about the LGBT community.

Bernie isn't perfect, but he surely isn't going to ever say Nancy Reagan was good on the AIDS epidemic. Nor is he for mass-incarceration or have close ties w/ the GMO industry.

She's clueless. She's a robot. The second she goes off her talking points, she messes up greatly. There's been at least fifteen versions of Hillary Clinton since 2000. She is whoever you want her to be. That isn't evolving, it's keeping up with what's in politically to get the most votes.

A lot of politicians are like her because this is a systematic problem rather than one surrounding her; but Bernie is a much better option in comparison so I will support him instead.
 

[Redstreak 6,653]

On 3/12/2016 at 0:53 AM, RAMROD said:

Are you rooting for her cos she is a woman or are you really agreeing on many of her political views?

Ew can we not?

[uo111 5,283]

I read the first article you posted and thought to myself, "this is believable but where are the sources?"

And then I watched the video in the second articles and Bernies exact words in 2006 are, "I believe that the federal government should not be involved in overturning Massachusetts or any other state..." That was the time when we still thought that the federal government would officially ban gay marriage. His stance is more like, "let's try to keep the federal government from banning gay marriage everywhere." Which is clear to see if you actually quote him or listen to him speak.

As for opposing same-sex marriage, I think Sanders himself put it best. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/10/27/sanders-defends-2006-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage/ Answering "not right now, not after what we went through" is not opposing same-sex marriage. It literally means that he thought the state couldn't handle it yet.

I mean, I'll vote for the democratic nominee no matter what at this point. But this is a very weak attempt to catch Bernie. It honestly seems a little desperate. Those people left out the actual quotes because they didn't agree with the narrative they were trying to give.

[Pablo 8,667]

Me when people bash candidates for no reason

I don't like that people claim that Hillary started supporting gay marriage when it became convenient. Obama at one time was against it too. Politicians will do anything for votes and most of the time that means going with the flow of what's popular.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

On 3/12/2016 at 1:59 AM, LePetitMonstr said:

Bernie is really scatterbrained, Hilary is a liar, Trump is racist, etc. All presidential candidates this year are a joke imo. 

I agree.

Except all politicians are liars. Part of working in diplomacy and secrecy. Can't have a scatterbrained person and a racist running the country though.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

In any case I wouldn't bother trying to slander Bernie. He's actually a pretty stand-up person who does not compromise his positions.

That's not really a strong suit though. He could afford to be a stand-up person because he has not done anything of actual significance beyond a few bills here and there. He hasn't made any friends either because he doesn't do diplomacy. Those are not very good qualities.