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Just now, just4fun said:

The education before Castro was much better than it ever was with Castro. 

mmm hmm... :koons:

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JusKeepBreathin
4 minutes ago, LePetitMonstr said:

Bernie is really scatterbrained, Hilary is a liar, Trump is racist, etc. All presidential candidates this year are a joke imo. 

Finally, a statement I can agree with. People need to take off their rose colored Bernie glasses.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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7 minutes ago, just4fun said:

Those numbers are completely reliant on figures Castro sends. Speak to a Cuban refugee for two minutes. You'll see what type of education and healthcare they received or ask them to write a simple sentence in Spanish.

 

For the record, I actually have spoken to Cuban refugees. My Mother lived in Cuba as a child, on an American military base, while her medical and educational experiences in Cuba were strictly American, the educational and medical experiences of her Cuban friends, as communicated to me, by the Cubans themselves were positive.

I don't expect that anecdotal evidence to sway your opinion of course, I'm just sharing my experience so you don't continue to assume that no one you speak to has had life experiences with Cuban refugees.

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Just now, LavendarBlonde said:

mmm hmm... :koons:

Says the person who has never spoken to a Cuban refugee in their life.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Just now, just4fun said:

Says the person who has never spoken to a Cuban refugee in their life.

Says the person who has never spoken to every cuban refugee in their life.

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1 minute ago, SKANK said:

 

For the record, I actually have spoken to Cuban refugees. My Mother lived in Cuba as a child, on an American military base, while her medical and educational experiences in Cuba were strictly American, the educational and medical experiences of her Cuban friends, as communicated to me, by the Cubans themselves were positive.

I don't expect that anecdotal evidence to sway your opinion of course, I'm just sharing my experience so you don't continue to assume that no one you speak to has had life experiences with Cuban refugees.

Sure dude. Come to Miami and speak to real refugees. The debate hall all but booed Bernie off the stage after those comments and he will lose Florida.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Unless I'm reading it incorrectly this is saying that in the past Bernie favored the states' right to choose over federal regulation for marriage equality. I don't blame him, marriage equality was once something I thought I wouldn't even see in my lifetime. Leaving it up the states at one point seemed like a good option, compared to having a federal ban on same sex marriage. The way the author of this article is trying to spin this amuses me :air: Bernie has fought for gay rights for 20+ years, he opposed DADT in the 90s. It wasn't until 2013 that Hilary stopped opposing same sex marriage. So no, there's a reason everyone's shitting on Hilary. 

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1 minute ago, LavendarBlonde said:

Says the person who has never spoken to every cuban refugee in their life.

Enough to know not one has a favorable sentiment about Castro or healthcare or education in Cuba. lol

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Just now, just4fun said:

Enough to know not one has a favorable sentiment about Castro or healthcare or education in Cuba.

Isn't that why they're refugees though... :neyde:

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3 minutes ago, LavendarBlonde said:

Isn't that why they're refugees though... :neyde:

You mean they are escaping wonderful healthcare, an amazing educational system and a benevolent dictator. Sure thats why people would get on a raft and face death to get to the US. :tea:

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RadioIsOurs
Just now, just4fun said:

You mean they are escaping wonderful healthcare, an amazing educational system and a benevolent dictator. Sure thats why people would get on a raft and face death to get to the US. :tea:

Well...Bernie didn't say those words though...

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artRaver

Eh, still voting for Bernie though. 

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23 minutes ago, Steve Nasty said:

Unless I'm reading it incorrectly this is saying that in the past Bernie favored the states' right to choose over federal regulation for marriage equality. I don't blame him, marriage equality was once something I thought I wouldn't even see in my lifetime. Leaving it up the states at one point seemed like a good option, compared to having a federal ban on same sex marriage. The way the author of this article is trying to spin this amuses me :air: Bernie has fought for gay rights for 20+ years, he opposed DADT in the 90s. It wasn't until 2013 that Hilary stopped opposing same sex marriage. So no, there's a reason everyone's shitting on Hilary. 

Sanders took a similarly cautious approach to same-sex marriage. In 2006, he took a stand against same-sex marriage in Vermont, stating that he instead endorsed civil unions. Sanders told the Associated Press that he was “comfortable” with civil unions, not full marriage equality. (To justify his stance, Sanders complained that a battle for same-sex marriage would be too “divisive.”) At the time, he also opposed a federal anti-gay-marriage amendment—but so did his Republican opponent for the Senate seat, Richard Tarrant, who also supported civil unions. With a wide lead in the polls and little at stake, Sanders declined to differentiate himself from his opponent by taking the lead on gay rights.

Earlier in his political career, Sanders was even more indifferent toward gay rights, which W.J. Conroy recounts in his book Challenging the Boundaries of Reform: Socialism in Burlington. When serving as mayor of Burlington, Sanders told an interviewer that LGBT rights were not a “major priority” for him. Asked if he would support a bill to protect gays from job discrimination, Sanders responded, “probably not.” That was more than 25 years ago. Sanders has, no doubt, come a long way since then: The senator endorsed Vermont’s successful Marriage Equality Act in 2009 and has cheered the Supreme Court’s marriage rulings. And he is co-sponsoring the Equality Act, a sweeping federal LGBT rights bill that advocacy groups place high on their post-marriage agenda.  

Still, Sanders’ exaggeration of his marriage equality record is strange and unwise. If Sanders were honest about his evolution—and, yes, it was an evolution—then he could still brag about supporting marriage equality long before his chief primary rival. Instead, he has attempted to reframe his somewhat tepid support as vociferous and unabating. The LGBTQ community can surely forgive Sanders’ less-than-spotless record on gay rights—but that process can only begin once he’s honest about it.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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25 minutes ago, Steve Nasty said:

Unless I'm reading it incorrectly this is saying that in the past Bernie favored the states' right to choose over federal regulation for marriage equality. I don't blame him, marriage equality was once something I thought I wouldn't even see in my lifetime. Leaving it up the states at one point seemed like a good option, compared to having a federal ban on same sex marriage. The way the author of this article is trying to spin this amuses me :air: Bernie has fought for gay rights for 20+ years, he opposed DADT in the 90s. It wasn't until 2013 that Hilary stopped opposing same sex marriage. So no, there's a reason everyone's shitting on Hilary. 

My father did not come around to Gay Marriage until 2012 - so should he be shitted on as well!???

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Whispering

Of course he lies, twists the truth, distorts the facts and promises things he will never come close to delivering. That's called running for president. All the candidates lie and exaggerate. 

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