DontDoubtDavid 1,191 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Awww. I see the family resemblance! <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,765 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, mic said: I kind of struggle to get the term 'survivor' while for such long time she was not even sure if it was rape or not. People say Americans could perceive anything a rape. Survivor as in, she didn't commit suicide over it, not that the situation was violent. There are actually studies that have been done that show that in many cases of rape, it gets repressed and you don't consciously think about it because of the trauma it caused. Additionally, admitting you were raped is a hard thing because of the implications it has. It means that A) you were not in control of your life which is frowned upon socially B) that you could potentially be making something out of nothing C) that this is normal and you are just being overly emotional/hysteric over nothing; also frowned upon D) The labeling that will be put upon you regardless of what people think. They'll say, "oh that's the person who was raped." It becomes gossip fodder. Imagine what the paps would have done with this story if they found out sooner? She would be mortified and again not in control. Rape is also any unwanted sexual advances. By that logic, if you're coerced into it, you feel as though you gave consent to it so it may not be rape and you're being overly dramatic and callous towards actual victims and denying your own personal experience. Rape is a really something that occurs on an individual basis and needs to be seen as such. I think that's where the confusion lies with Gaga's story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, mic said: Sure I know but I think there is a difference between rough rape resulting in physical and deep mental damage and abusive touch/approach. Of course rape shouldn't be something that one can rank, but I just have impression these days anyone can be raped and deeply emotionaly damaged. My father was touching and abusing me when I was a kid but to be honest it resulted only in me being disgusted by him and I having little more awkward introduction to sex life. The reaction differs from person to person but in some cases I can sense attention seeking (not pointing out at anyone). There you have it. Everyone processes things differently. Calling them attention seekers just seems...awful. Many are just trying to open a dialog with other people who have also been through rape and sexual abuse to empower one another and get through the stigmatized feeling they might have. If people want to refer to themselves as survivors, then I'm not really seeing the big issue? They indeed survived a horrible thing that no one should ever have to go through. I'm very, very sorry to hear this happened to you btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister 9,907 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 awww how cute and sweet~ The future's uncertain and the end is always near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 That was beautiful and it's great that she has all the support from her family and Taylor of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I find it strange that we as fans know more about certain aspects of Gaga than her own family members because we watch all her interviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,568 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/03/02/lady-gaga-survivor-til-it-happens-to-you-oscars-academy-awards-grandmother/81201252/ Heres a quote. Check page for full article: "My grandmother ... and my Aunt Sheri ... both called me the day after the Oscars because I never told them I was a survivor," she wrote under a photo of female members of her family. "I was too ashamed. Too afraid. And it took me a long time to even admit it to myself because I'm Catholic and I knew it was evil but I thought it was my fault. I thought it was my fault for 10 years. " "I could hear (her tears) welling through the phone she said to me, 'My darling granddaughter, I've never been more proud of you than I am today.' Something I have kept a secret for so long that I was more ashamed of than anything — became the thing the women in my life were the most proud of. And not just any women, the ones I look up to the most." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTraumatica 5,786 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 survivors always win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,006 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I read the title as if she had been raped after the Oscars... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannydevito 10,658 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Gaga is such a hero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, JamesFox said: I read the title as if she had been raped after the Oscars... What title? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,568 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I guess now its comfirmed after all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomingfree77 244 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 16 hours ago, VampireHeart said: Read the caption! Like I always say when it comes to beauty, the apple never falls far from the tree.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, Economy said: I guess now its comfirmed after all Well to be fair she still never actually said she was raped in that post. She said she is a survivor [of some form of sexual assault]. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,568 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Well to be fair she still never actually said she was raped in that post. She said she is a survivor [of some form of sexual assault]. True i guess theres a small shred of doubt i hate to aound bad but sometimes gaga really seems to do some things for attention (like most stars) i dont doubt she was abused in sone way. I wouldnt be too shocked tho if she purposely gives off impression it was rape without actually saying it but in reality the abuse was more subtle im not saying thats the case tho. Merely that i wouldnt be shocked but ill give her the benefit of the doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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