Clinton wins South Carolina Democratic Primary

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

47 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It's literally her stance. She's come out strongly against the private prison lobby and has vowed to ban them. Turns out, she's  admitted this past December that she shouldn't have taken the money from them and all previous monies given from the private prison lobby will be donated to charity and she will not take it anymore.

If she follows through, I'll be impressed. I wish she had the character to know it was wrong from the beginning. But I guess its better than nothing.

Disclosure: she wasn't the only candidate taking money from them. Also Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush had connections to these lobbyists.

 

Well let's both hope that she lives up to her word and doesn't ultimately let anyone down.

[JevyDuty 2,961]

13 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Well, I respect your position. Thank you for posting this. Often people come off as strictly haters of someone. (I probably do at times as well).

If you support his ideas more why not support him in the primaries but Clinton in the general? I mean she is most likely to win anyway. There won't be another chance to support him again. I don't think he'll run again

 

I've left the door open for that. NY votes very late in the primary cycle so I highly doubt my vote will count for anything. 

Every election cycle I have A LOT of family and friends approach me about who should they vote for because I'm kinda into politics and we're first generation Americans. This time I've told them to vote for whomever they want, that they are both good. My best friend and his family in Connecticut wanted to know about Bernie because they were intrigued and I told them he's good. This is me knowing that it's probably going to be close in CT. Bernies appeal is undeniable.

[Morphine Prince 109,679]

Something interesting to note... far fewer Democrats went out to vote in this state compared to the Republicans.

Is it because there's only two candidates here or? 

[Kabexuela 1,184]

As republicans to Trump is as democrats to Clinton.  We sill never learn.  We made our bed and we will lie in it..

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

23 minutes ago, Legalize Chris said:

Your avatar is a gay flag. I posted this in another thread: 

Consistency matters, sir. 

Why are you using two distinct topics to make a point?

Even Bernie was against LGBT marriages. He only voted against anti-LGBT legislation because he believed it should be up to the states. You should know that.

Hilary has never been anti-LGBT. She simply held the stance that marriage is a heterosexual institution, as most Americans did. She has since evolved, like most Americans have. Many like to say that she did BECAUSE of it, but that's highly pessimistic.

Here's a nice article by the godlike Dan Savage. Read it and do some introspection.

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2016/02/22/23606058/hillary-clinton-used-to-be-terrible-on-marriage-equality

[Voltaire 4,531]

9 minutes ago, Hauser said:

You've misunderstood where Im coming from. I think Bernie is a great guy and I love how he is very progressive in fact a dhare a lot of his ideas. My issue is that Bernie could be KING of liberalism and progressivism but if his record doesnt show that, at the end of the day he is not qualified to be president. He can have the greatest approval rating in the world but if he got nothing done in his 30 years in congress, nothing done in his state of Vermont, what good is that? If you go and apply for a manager for a restaurant or a store, being nice wont get you hired. What will get you hired is having experience, referemces, skills, which is everything that Bernie is lacking in the political version of my example. 

Also, you claim thag Bernie has spent his WHOLE life fighting for rights of minorities while Clinton has flip flopped...let me remind you that Sanders opposed gay marriage in 2006 and voted FOR the crime bill that encarcerated many black americans that you all were trashing Hillary for. 

He HAS accomplished many things. Being a senator is a very important part of legislating change, and holding back other changes.

If you know about that Crime bill, you'll know that its a Clinton bill. You'll also know that he opposed it vehemently, including 2 floor speeches clearly stating what it would do.

here is one of those ^

BUT it was an omnibus bill, and in order to keep the assault weapons ban and violence against women provisions he had to indeed vote for it, and  they were included to do just that: force votes that were actually in opposition.

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Just now, Morphine Prince said:

Something interesting to note... far fewer Democrats went out to vote in this state compared to the Republicans.

Is it because there's only two candidates here or? 

Because South Carolina is a much more Republican state, perhaps?

[Morphine Prince 109,679]

3 minutes ago, ctherainbow said:

Because South Carolina is a much more Republican state, perhaps?

This is what I was thinking. I'd like to compare in other states but the Dem. party doesn't release votes in all states. This is the first one so far. Over 300,000 Democrats voted in this election compared to 700,000 Republicans. 

[Hauser 1,262]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

He HAS accomplished many things. Being a senator is a very important part of legislating change, and holding back other changes.

If you know about that Crime bill, you'll know that its a Clinton bill. You'll also know that he opposed it vehemently, including 2 floor speeches clearly stating what it would do.

here is one of those ^

BUT it was an omnibus bill, and in order to keep the assault weapons ban and violence against women provisions that were included to do just that: force votes that were actually in opposition.

Well of course Bernie has accomplished many things, he has been politically active for mearly 50 years! Except he didnt accomplish anything of important that pertains to the campaign he is running or else you would've mentioned the acccomplishements already. Yes that bill was Bill's Clinton's but BERNIE VOTED FOR IT, what is so hard to understand about that?? "He was so oposed to the bill that he voted for it"...that makes no sense man. 

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Just now, Hauser said:

Well of course Bernie has accomplished many things, he has been politically active for mearly 50 years! Except he didnt accomplish anything of important that pertains to the campaign he is running or else you would've mentioned the acccomplishements already. Yes that bill was Bill's Clinton's but BERNIE VOTED FOR IT, what is so hard to understand about that?? "He was so oposed to the bill that he voted for it"...that makes no sense man. 

I just explained it? It was an omnibus bill.

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

It's all fun (for the most part). I can't be a sore loser when I know I've been supporting the loser since the beginning. The Iowa caucus shocked me because of how close it was. 

And just because there are many Bernie supporters that accuse you Hillary supporters of only supporting her because she's a woman you have to come and accuse Bernie supporters of the opposite?  

Bernie will not win. Many of us KNOW that. But Hillary will NOT be getting my vote EVER. 

The nastiness between Bernie and Hillary supporters is so ugly. It's only creating divisiveness. Come November many Bernie supporters will not be backing your candidate. 

Who are you going to vote for? Trump? 

So you want to vote for someone who wants to round up people that are your same race and throw them out of the country? All because of some silly little war of words on social media? 

Voting for the leader of our country shouldn't be about being bitter children. This shouldn't be turned this into a "fan war". How sad is that? If you...and any other Bernie supporters vote for Trump, you get what you deserve. 

[Morphine Prince 109,679]

4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Who are you going to vote for? Trump? 

So you want to vote for someone who wants to round up people that are your same race and throw them out of the country? All because of some silly little war of words on social media? 

Voting for the leader of our country shouldn't be about being bitter children. This shouldn't be turned this into a "fan war". How sad is that? If you...and any other Bernie supporters vote for Trump, you get what you deserve. 

I never said I was voting for Trump though

I'm sure someone will run as an Independent soon. I just refuse to vote for Trump or Clinton  

Or some write-in candidate. 

EDIT: The ONLY reason I would ever vote for Clinton is if Trump gains so much popularity that he actually has a chance. I doubt it. 

[ctherainbow 3,162]

Just now, Morphine Prince said:

This is what I was thinking. I'd like to compare in other states but the Dem. party doesn't release votes in all states. This is the first one so far. Over 300,000 Democrats voted in this election compared to 700,000 Republicans. 

South Carolina has been a pretty solid Republican state since the 90s, so I'd imagine that there are simply less registered Democrats who could go vote, as in any other Republican-dominated state.

 

Also, total side note, but it pisses me off that the Republican primary system is so much less proportional in its allocation of delegates than the Democratic primary.  I don't understand winner-take-all primaries at all, and I definitely think the Democrats have the right idea here.

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

3 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Who are you going to vote for? Trump? 

So you want to vote for someone who wants to round up people that are your same race and throw them out of the country? All because of some silly little war of words on social media? 

Voting for the leader of our country shouldn't be about being bitter children. This shouldn't be turned this into a "fan war". How sad is that? If you...and any other Bernie supporters vote for Trump, you get what you deserve. 

COMPLETELY Agree!  I remember all to well what the George W. Bush administration was like.  I will be out there voting for the democratic nominee No Matter WHAT!  👍👍👍

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12 hours ago, Bernie Sanders said:

Bernie will probably win the southern states votes since he's ok with some guns and drugs. Then again Hillary should be a rebuplican so 

What?! Why should she be a republican? She's against guns, overturning gay marriage, pro-abortion and women's rights. Stop spreading lies just because you're voting for a Jr. senator who's accomplished nothing in his career but be a spoiler for parties