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LebaneseDude
34 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I'm not asking a complex question. It's basic and shouldn't require much for an answer.

If I'm a politician that says I want to end private prisons, but private prison companies are giving me money and I accept it, is that an issue? Does that seem like a conflict of interest to you?

I'll help you with answers since you seem reluctant to form your own:

(check with an X)

[  ] It's a conflict of interest to take money from organizations and people you are telling the voters you are against.

[  ] It is a conflict of interest, but I don't mind it because I think its okay to say you're against things while taking their money because its not THAT important to get rid of them and I'd rather have a little change somewhere else than no change at all.

[  ] It is not a conflict of interest.

 

What's the money used for?

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8 hours ago, PoshLife said:

I don't understand where this post is coming from; she's up by double digits in most southern states that vote today or Tuesday, including South Carolina, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia...

The states Bernie will do well in are in New England (very liberal, where I grew up!) and the caucus states (Colorado, Minnesota), as caucuses are more time-consuming and thus tend to attract the most passionate in the party (the very liberal Democrats, the very conservative Republicans).

So basically the outcome of the election will be exactly the opposite of what you think it will be :laughga: 

that person doesnt know what there talking about... :laughga:\

Hillary has the edge with southrn state democrats.

Why would Hillery be a Republican? Such a nonsense statement

 

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LebaneseDude
2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Campaigning

So the promise is to end private prisons. How do you expect to do that without the cooperation of the private prisons? They're legal. Ending them is more akin to ending them in the current form. Reform is the most likely scenario. 

I would venture to say that Hillary could afford to be more direct in stating that, but I can also see the value in being deliberately vague in order to not antagonize anyone and keep compromise on the table.

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FATCAT
23 minutes ago, Hauser said:

I would love to give Bernie Sanders credit for somethubg but in his 30+ years in politics he accomplished nothing worth mentioning :( but you supporters now that already. 

Try again.

U.S. House of Representatives

His 1990 victory was described by The Washington Post as being the “First Socialist Elected” to the United States House of Representatives in more than 40 years.

Served in the House from 1991 until the time he became a Senator in 2007. Over a span of 16 years, he continuously won re-election by large margins, with the only exception being 1994.

In his very first year in the House, he co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He led this group for its first eight years. Its primary devotion is to advance liberal causes and is currently the largest organization within the Democratic congressional caucus.

He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.

Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.

He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.

Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.

He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”

He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.

Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.

Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.

Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.

U.S. Senate

Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaignsin Vermont’s history.

Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.

Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.

Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.

Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.

Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.

Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.

Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.

Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.

Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.

Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.

Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.

Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.

 

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Voltaire
3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

So the promise is to end private prisons. How do you expect to do that without the cooperation of the private prisons? They're legal. Ending them is more akin to ending them in the current form. Reform is the most likely scenario. 

I would venture to say that Hillary could afford to be more direct in stating that, but I can also see the value in being deliberately vague.

So your angle on this, is that Private Prison companies are giving money to Hillary Clinton because she'll need it to end their company?

That's a really interesting angle.

(It's possible to make private prisons illegal through legislation)

I can see we're probably just not going to agree. I think we want the same outcomes. I just have a different opinion on who I think will take on the problems.

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LebaneseDude
1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

So your angle on this, is that Private Prison companies are giving money to Hillary Clinton because she'll need it to end their company?

That's a really interesting angle.

Who said she's going to end it? Wanting to end them in their current form is not mutually exclusive with cooperation. How else do you get anything done?

I don't understand what you're saying. Is Hilary supposed to be their enemy? 

That's not how politics work. Private prison owners are not anyone's enemies. 

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Morphine Prince

I was watching Bernie's speech on CNN and the Clinton News Network cut him off just as he started criticizing Hillary... coincidence or not? 

I've seen various people saying CNN is favoring Hillary. I think Time Warner is one of her donors. 

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Voltaire
Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Who said she's going to end it? Wanting to end them in their current form is not mutually exclusive with refusing to cooperate with them.

I don't understand what you're saying. Is Hilary supposed to be their enemy? 

That's not how politics work. Private prison owners are not anyone's enemies.

It's literally her stance. She's come out strongly against the private prison lobby and has vowed to ban them. Turns out, she's  admitted this past December that she shouldn't have taken the money from them and all previous monies given from the private prison lobby will be donated to charity and she will not take it anymore.

If she follows through, I'll be impressed. I wish she had the character to know it was wrong from the beginning. But I guess its better than nothing.

Disclosure: she wasn't the only candidate taking money from them. Also Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush had connections to these lobbyists.

 

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Squidward T
2 hours ago, Larry Hill said:

Yup she rained on Bernie's parade. Again! #ImWithHer

You do realize she used to be extremely homophbic and only changed her stance on gay marriage to benefit her 

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En_Sabah_Nur
3 minutes ago, Squidward T said:

You do realize she used to be extremely homophbic and only changed her stance on gay marriage to benefit her 

Almost everyone was homophobic back in the day, including my father who changed his mind about gay marriage around the time she did actually.  So what's your point?  That people cannot change?!  That ONLY people who have been for Gay Marriage since the notion of it began can ONLY be President?!??

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En_Sabah_Nur
10 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I was watching Bernie's speech on CNN and the Clinton News Network cut him off just as he started criticizing Hillary... coincidence or not? 

I've seen various people saying CNN is favoring Hillary. I think Time Warner is one of her donors. 

Oh brother!!!  🙄🙄🙄

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Morphine Prince
1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

Almost everyone was homophobic back in the day, including my father who changed his mind about gay marriage around the time she did actually.  So what's your point?  That people cannot change?!  That ONLY people who have been for Gay Marriage since the notion of it began can ONLY be President?!??

I think his point is that when politicians "change" their views when it becomes politically convenient it's very shady. An example would be Obama. He started supporting SSM in May of 2012 months before the election when polls indicated for the first time 51% of the public supported SSM. 

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JevyDuty
9 minutes ago, Squidward T said:

You do realize she used to be extremely homophbic and only changed her stance on gay marriage to benefit her 

So did my mother. I grew up listening to so many homophobic statements and degrading terms. Not directed at me but it still hurt because the shoe fit. Once I came out and pretty much gave her an ultimatum. She chose me. So now she's a completely different person and supports me unconditionally. People grow, people change. Obama change his mind and so did 99% of most people over 50 that support the LGBT community. 

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