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I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Lauren is the best, vocally. Camilla sounds so high-pitched and annoying imo.

How come Lauren is robbed of any solos that show off her vocals but then just gets to be the middle dancer in the videos.

I need to know who is running their brand because making Camilla the Queen B makes no sense.

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SlayedForTheGod
13 hours ago, TRILL MONSTER said:

MESS AT THEM COPYING CIARAS ICONIC WORK VIDEO!!

 

 

btw ...who gave these basic instahoes a recording contract?

uh they have amazing voices so you can stay pressed

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ctherainbow

That was a cute video, and I loved the concept!  It's a bop, too.

But I'm a little confused... for such a racially diverse group, why were all the construction guys white?  Like, zero diversity in the male objects of attraction.   :rip:

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They were hot though, so I'm not complaining.   :hor:

 

I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby.
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StrawberryBlond
19 hours ago, SlayedForTheGod said:

i get that but they are older already. they are living their lives and doing what they want. and truly as much as it sucks to say,raising children is not their job. 

though to combat your statement about this song basically telling girls to have sex cause its their duty: your kinda putting words in their mouth. in my opinion in the song they never made it sound like as girls they needed to offer themselves to guys cause its their "duty" as you stated.

It would be better if they'd got together organically and been launched without the help of a tv show. Because X Factor is supposed to be a family show, you expect all its acts to make age appropriate music. Let's face it, most people who watch these shows are young girls, which is why the male acts and boybands do so well. So, it's standard that they will have a lot of very young fans (as young as 3 in some cases - parents practically force music on their kids these days by taking along super young siblings to concerts that the older kid wants to see). Therefore, their music has to stay age appropriate for a while even if they're adults. Little Mix are still keeping it quite kid friendly with their third album however they have one song, ADIDAS, that was a very bizarre addition that is obviously not going to become a single. It stands for All Day Long I Dream About Sex. And it includes lyrics like "they say it's overrated but they ain't doing it right," "Slaving in the kitchen, iced you a cake, then a served you a plate, but that ain't what you ate," "excuse me, do me or lose me, get me to the bedroom, do your duty," "like a wave gonna come tsunami" and "they all wanna huh my Brazilian." It's absolutely disgusting that songs like this are being sent out to little kids by acts that are supposed to be family friendly. It's one thing if you start out raunchy as an established act without any tv show backing because then it's clear that you're not meant from kids from the off (I always say this when parents complained in the early days about Gaga's concert content because Gaga has never claimed that she's for kids). But if you had started out kid friendly, then you've snared a fanbase with parental blessing, which is hard to back out of later because once kids like something, they won't let it go, so parents will have to let them be subjected to inappropriate content. Can you imagine how parents of young 1D fans felt when Zayn went solo and came out with a song about sex that included the f word? Once you've made your start on X Factor, you can't be truly raunchy until your fanbase is 100% grown if you don't want to upset parents.

Actually, they do touch on how it's a girl's duty to do sexual things. Lyrics like...

"Sending pic after picture, gonna get your fired" (precisely not what young girls need to be taught in today's technological age - they get pressured enough to do this stuff without celebrities citing it as normal and acceptable. Girls are bombarded with this message now that this is expected of them).

"I don't need an explanation because you're the boss at home" (this is the most submissive lyric yet - no other interpretation can be read into this. I shouldn't have to explain why this is a toxic message to be sending).

"You don't gotta go to work, work, work, work, work, work, let my body do the work, work, work, work, work." (another explicit way of saying that it's a girl's job to do please her man - he can relax while she goes to work. Also feeds into the idea of when a man has done his work for the day, he should rest while a woman makes the dinner and does chores).

"Girl gotta work for me, can you make it clap no hands for me, take it to the ground, pick it up for me, look back at it all up for me." (classic male gaze/female performance stuff, exacerbated by repeatedly saying "for me" at the end).

The most ironic thing is that I'm actually a naturally submissive person and I actually like being submissive sexually (not in reality though, sob). But because men like it is just a bonus - I'd still be into it if men didn't like it. And it is possible to be "confidently submissive." I think that's what the girls were doing with Worth It, which is why I liked that song a lot more. Confidently submissive can be sexy, genuinely submissive puts me on edge.

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JusKeepBreathin

and people said Britney has no impact anymore. First Rihanna now 5H. Lol

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"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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TRILL MONSTER
2 hours ago, SlayedForTheGod said:

uh they have amazing voices so you can stay pressed

 

Keep telling yourself that 

 

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I don't like the part with Camilla hitting the high notes on the end, very unnecessary to hear those high screechy vocals. I'm not a hater, but the tone of the song was so sexy until that happened.

 

And the casting director made a good job. :hor:

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OmgSum1Actually

Song ain't that good, the hype about it just because of their fanbase

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SlayedForTheGod
2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It would be better if they'd got together organically and been launched without the help of a tv show. Because X Factor is supposed to be a family show, you expect all its acts to make age appropriate music. Let's face it, most people who watch these shows are young girls, which is why the male acts and boybands do so well. So, it's standard that they will have a lot of very young fans (as young as 3 in some cases - parents practically force music on their kids these days by taking along super young siblings to concerts that the older kid wants to see). Therefore, their music has to stay age appropriate for a while even if they're adults. Little Mix are still keeping it quite kid friendly with their third album however they have one song, ADIDAS, that was a very bizarre addition that is obviously not going to become a single. It stands for All Day Long I Dream About Sex. And it includes lyrics like "they say it's overrated but they ain't doing it right," "Slaving in the kitchen, iced you a cake, then a served you a plate, but that ain't what you ate," "excuse me, do me or lose me, get me to the bedroom, do your duty," "like a wave gonna come tsunami" and "they all wanna huh my Brazilian." It's absolutely disgusting that songs like this are being sent out to little kids by acts that are supposed to be family friendly. It's one thing if you start out raunchy as an established act without any tv show backing because then it's clear that you're not meant from kids from the off (I always say this when parents complained in the early days about Gaga's concert content because Gaga has never claimed that she's for kids). But if you had started out kid friendly, then you've snared a fanbase with parental blessing, which is hard to back out of later because once kids like something, they won't let it go, so parents will have to let them be subjected to inappropriate content. Can you imagine how parents of young 1D fans felt when Zayn went solo and came out with a song about sex that included the f word? Once you've made your start on X Factor, you can't be truly raunchy until your fanbase is 100% grown if you don't want to upset parents.

Actually, they do touch on how it's a girl's duty to do sexual things. Lyrics like...

"Sending pic after picture, gonna get your fired" (precisely not what young girls need to be taught in today's technological age - they get pressured enough to do this stuff without celebrities citing it as normal and acceptable. Girls are bombarded with this message now that this is expected of them).

"I don't need an explanation because you're the boss at home" (this is the most submissive lyric yet - no other interpretation can be read into this. I shouldn't have to explain why this is a toxic message to be sending).

"You don't gotta go to work, work, work, work, work, work, let my body do the work, work, work, work, work." (another explicit way of saying that it's a girl's job to do please her man - he can relax while she goes to work. Also feeds into the idea of when a man has done his work for the day, he should rest while a woman makes the dinner and does chores).

"Girl gotta work for me, can you make it clap no hands for me, take it to the ground, pick it up for me, look back at it all up for me." (classic male gaze/female performance stuff, exacerbated by repeatedly saying "for me" at the end).

The most ironic thing is that I'm actually a naturally submissive person and I actually like being submissive sexually (not in reality though, sob). But because men like it is just a bonus - I'd still be into it if men didn't like it. And it is possible to be "confidently submissive." I think that's what the girls were doing with Worth It, which is why I liked that song a lot more. Confidently submissive can be sexy, genuinely submissive puts me on edge.

once again i get everything you are saying BUT American xfactor didnt have near the audience as Uk's. it only lasted two seasons. the girls arent even under the same management anymore. all those examples are very opinionated imo. i didnt hear any of those and think they were telling girls that they HAD to do this cause it was their duty as woman. and your comments are kind of contradictory cause you say they are promoting a submissive role but then you use the line "let my body do the work". that doesnt sound submissive to me. the society norm is that the guy is the one in control when it comes to sex but that to me shows the girls being in control. and i didnt associate it at all with cooking and cleaning lol.  

at the end of the day what im saying is that the girls have grown up and so have the girls following them. its not their job to raise children. they are making age appropriate music. bottom line.

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SlayedForTheGod
2 hours ago, TRILL MONSTER said:

 

Keep telling yourself that 

 

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1.there are videos of them singing live acoustically that will prove this.

2.not you using a madonna gif while attacking someones lack of vocal ability LOL

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TRILL MONSTER
29 minutes ago, SlayedForTheGod said:

1.there are videos of them singing live acoustically that will prove this.

2.not you using a madonna gif while attacking someones lack of vocal ability LOL

Everyone can sing acoustic but not everyone can last a career that has lasted 3 decades .....and given the outcomes of past mediocre girl groups founded on tv.......

 

 

 

I give them 1 more years ....

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StrawberryBlond
1 hour ago, SlayedForTheGod said:

once again i get everything you are saying BUT American xfactor didnt have near the audience as Uk's. it only lasted two seasons. the girls arent even under the same management anymore. all those examples are very opinionated imo. i didnt hear any of those and think they were telling girls that they HAD to do this cause it was their duty as woman. and your comments are kind of contradictory cause you say they are promoting a submissive role but then you use the line "let my body do the work". that doesnt sound submissive to me. the society norm is that the guy is the one in control when it comes to sex but that to me shows the girls being in control. and i didnt associate it at all with cooking and cleaning lol.  

at the end of the day what im saying is that the girls have grown up and so have the girls following them. its not their job to raise children. they are making age appropriate music. bottom line.

That's a good point, I suppose. It's almost like they're not part of XF when all's said and done. When you say my examples are opinionated, do you mean they're wrong or what? By singing about these things, they're justifying them. You don't have to explicitly state gender roles, but by keeping things traditional, it sends a message whether you intend to or not. What we hear in our songs sends messages. We just tell ourselves it doesn't affect us but it does. Just imagine what it's like being a girl growing up and hearing this stuff when you're still learning about sex and your place in it. From every angle, girls are sent the message to be submissive and sexual and they're picking this up at younger and younger ages. You really can't argue that "you're the boss at home" feeds into classic gender roles. And there are certainly other hits that use similar phrases (like Hey Mama - "Yes you be the boss and yes I be respecting") and in isolation, it's not bad, but when the songs start to build up, these songs form an overall message in our culture. We start singing them and that can lead to believing them. The line "let my body do the work" certainly is submissive. When a woman is pleasing a man, she really can't be in control. Our bodies are made in such a way that a woman could never hurt a man so we can never be as dominant as them. When a woman goes "to work" on a man, we know what that implies and I don't think you can be in control on your knees. When a woman "works" on a man, it's usually at the expense of her own pleasure. It suggests she's focused on pleasing him, not pleasing herself as well. Well, it does tie in to cooking and cleaning when you think about it. It offers men the fantasy of coming home from a hard day's work and having his woman completely up for it and being prepared to do anything for him while he relaxes. Speaking as a woman, this is not a "women in control" message I'm seeing. Like I said before, Worth It may have been submissive, but it was confident submissive. It made demands of men and was all about the girls getting their own pleasure because they had the confidence to believe they were worthy of it.

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