"Lady Gaga doesn't think the government should decide if a crime happened"

[RabbitHeart 793]

American government is so corrupt and biased that I actually agree with it tbh. But also Gaga has a point. She's just saying that the government shouldn't invalidate a person's experiences and immediately doubt them. Also, the whole gifset is 100% about victim blaming so like...why is this a problem 

[JackTheTripper 866]

Well the legal system is ****ed up either way, form bouth perspective,  power should be in peoples hands, thats not comunist, if anything its anty govermental. Howewer we are living in a world where its innocent until prowen guilty , she has fair point when you take in the context, you should always help and support the victims and given comfort and your trust. BUt when it comes to trial and judging , you cant without enough proof declare someone a rapist, beacuse we had situations like this before  where the "victim" commit the crime by lying and faulse allegation, DUKE LACROSSE CASE-SEARCH ON THAT FOR EXMPLE. The point  is, dont point fingers and srcream if you are not involved and dont even have enough ifnormations, i tryed to stay quite on some recent news, beacuse all i read was one sided story from tabloids, and this story is nothing new, it is popular to be loud and involved on subject beacuse people on internet are trending something and you instantly jump on a vagon.  but when you dont know anything, try to contain yourself from pinpointing it, And befor esomebody starts acusing me of something, i am not picking side, i tryed to stay neutral on subjects i dont have enough infomations, and more importantly question everything, beacuse the Pop star/produce sexual alleagtions have been the oldest story in showbusines and often had different  endings ....

[Runway 27,876]

Icon is exposing rape apologists in the government  

[Brooklin 21]

I'm dying at her facial expression on those pics. OMG LOVE HA.

[lavenderblondee 3,695]

3 hours ago, Church said:

How are people not understanding what she is saying? She is clear in the way she speaks and she expressed the idea eloquently. Also, why are people not agreeing with her?

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,819]

I agree that the focus should be on helping the victim first and foremost without judgement and the situation within which a rape occurred is irrelevant because it's wrong regardless. However...

Knowing the situation in which the rape occurred can lead to some life lessons that can stop the victim being raped again (or of others being raped if the message filters through to the public). There needs to be some sort of talk with the victim if the rape occurred when they were drunk/dressed provocatively/alone with no money, etc. I can't tell you how much it shocks me that so many young women nowadays have no thought for their own safety. They go out in a short dress, get drunk in public, their friends abandon them, they stumble outside so drunk that they can't think straight and have no money to get home because they spent it all on drink, their phone is out of charge and they end up sitting on a cold, wet, dirty pavement, totally vulnerable to any deviant passing by. They don't deserve anything bad that happens to them but whatever way you look at it, they are being reckless with their safety. Behaving like this is the equivalent of leaving your car unlocked with the windows down and a stack of money on the front seat. Do you deserve to get your car broken into/stolen? No, but you should learn not to be so reckless with the safety of your possessions. Now, what could be more precious than the safety of your actual self? It's common sense to learn how to protect oneself from danger. Yes, we should be teaching boys not to rape but we also need to teach girls how to look after themselves because a shocking amount of young people think they're invincible and that these kind of things don't happen to them. Plus, we know rape is wrong. But not everyone agrees, so you have to protect yourself from being one of their victims. Yes, in an ideal world, we would be allowed to go out and let our hair down and have nothing bad happen to us but the point is that this isn't a perfect world and it never will be. There's a lot of sickos out there wanting to take advantage and they'll do it regardless of what rules society teaches them. So the key is not to make yourself an easy target for them. Learning about safety procedures can help the victim to decrease their chances of it ever happening again.

Let's teach our girls that yes, you have a right to let your hair down, but not to the point where you might be easy prey for a predator. It's far more empowering to go out and enjoy yourself while being completely aware of your surroundings and have full mental capacity and go home safe at the end of the night. There is nothing empowering about stumbling around in a drunken haze, allowing yourself to be taken advantage of and there being no guarantee that you'll be sleeping in your own bed tonight. And it's wrong to not tell girls how to avoid that happening to them just because it's not PC in this day and age. If it'll keep more women safe, to hell with being PC.

But anyway, this is irrelevant to Kesha's case because her situation was different and sporadic with the same guy. I just wanted to clear up something that I've been wanting to get off my chest for a long time.

[Whispering 18,865]

@StrawberryBlond

Most rapes are not due to some scantily clad drunk person in an ally with no money and no phone. 

Approximately 4/5 of rapes were committed by someone known to the victim.
82% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger. 
47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
25% are an intimate.
 

The large majority of rapists are not hiding in the bushes or in an ally. The rapists are friends, family members, bosses, mentors, teachers, coaches, dates, boyfriends, husbands....people they know and trust. 

[Adakam 2]

8 hours ago, Creyk said:

What you were wearing is not beside the point though

 

The thing is... rapists dont choose their victims based on clothing, most of the times, they dont even look for the better bodies, they chose their victims based on their own mental fetish, young, underage, white, skinny, blond, brunette, but with a few common factors, like someone weak, easy to control, alone at that moment, and in many cases, someone who doesnt look like they enjoy sex, to create pain and force their control over them.

People used to say around where I live, that the best you could do if you ever found yourself in that situation, was to act like you were enjoying every second of it, act like you actually wanted to have sex with the person, as there was a chance it could turn them off that way, because thats not what they want.

 

 

[TiphEret 1,320]

I agree with her main ideas, that instead of doubting/shaming the victim we should blame the rapist. Mentality have to change but the way she phrased it at first with "the government should not decide if something happened or not" well unfortunately yes because otherwise how can you do justice, our system is flawed but that's the best we can do everyone deserve a chance to be heard if they are accused of such things. 

[TiphEret 1,320]

2 hours ago, Whispering said:

@StrawberryBlond

Most rapes are not due to some scantily clad drunk person in an ally with no money and no phone. 

Approximately 4/5 of rapes were committed by someone known to the victim.
82% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger. 
47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
25% are an intimate.
 

The large majority of rapists are not hiding in the bushes or in an ally. The rapists are friends, family members, bosses, mentors, teachers, coaches, dates, boyfriends, husbands....people they know and trust. 

So true, the issue is also the image of the rapist as a lone weirdo. But there are still some guys who may have raped their gf/girl whatever because they don't understand the concept of consent, they don't see themselves as rapist they even deny it. So I think it's way more important than telling a girl to dress properly and sober up when she goes out, because she is sadly more likely to be raped by a relative and maybe we should teach that person to not have sex with someone they know that is unconscious or whatever...just saying..

[iCpro 14,846]

8 hours ago, Passion2Action said:

Wow. That stayed a lot cleaner than a lot of the debates on here.

This. I'm surprised at how formal reddit was in the discussion. If it was here someone would of dragged Katy into it and the whole thing would of turned to s**t.

[Redstreak 6,653]

It's the Tumblr in Action section of Reddit. Of course they're shitty comments from shitty people

[chromadica 636]

Lmao this sub turned to **** after they attacked a 13 year old girl on tumblr and told her to kill herself.

[ByeBye49 161]

I expected much worse, considering it's Reddit.  That sub isn't the best though.

[SilkSpectre 114]

15 hours ago, Creyk said:

 Do you sometimes live in the real world, or are you just in this internet space?

That is not realistic and you know it

 

You're being a victim blamer. NOTHING takes away the responsibility of the rapist for their actions. It is not my job to be responsible for them by changing how  I dress or act. No one has the right to assault anyone