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Grammys: Gaga's artistic side might be accepted


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27 minutes ago, Mobster said:

Perfect time to ask Millie Brown to puke on her on international tv

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13 minutes ago, gagzus said:

for the most part the truth as of why gaga's art became non-accepted in the BTW era and afterwards is because;

1) she made a pro-equality song and [especially in america] homophobia and racism were (and still are) rife- amongst most of the public in every country actually so that played a MASSIVE part.

2) they realised she played them and used them just to get to a point of success any way she could so she could spread her message easier, and i'm sure she almost confirmed this in an interview once. The Fame & The Fame Monster will never happen again because they were an act she designed to get attention and success- something fans fail to realise, her true self is what we saw at her live shows and all the time from 2011 onwards.

3) her best work is from 2011 onwards because she made pop music with a real message and that was personal to her & the fans- it's a pity it seems like she's going to backtrack with LG5

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very well said! I agree 100%

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14 minutes ago, gagzus said:

2) they realised she played them and used them just to get to a point of success any way she could so she could spread her message easier, and i'm sure she almost confirmed this in an interview once. The Fame & The Fame Monster will never happen again because they were an act she designed to get attention and success- something fans fail to realise, her true self is what we saw at her live shows and all the time from 2011 onwards.

I don't agree with this. I think TF and TFM are completely honest albums that paint a very good picture of the true Lady Gaga. What most fail to realize is that Gaga is a person who grows and changes and that every album holds the mindset of the person in that specific moment of her life.

TF was created when Gaga was not yet famous, and she desperately wanted to be famous. That's honesty. That was her true self back then. She didn't have a "master plan" to sell shock pop just so she could deliver her art later. That WAS her art —at that moment in her life— and after that, with BTW her mindset was "I might never be able to have this level of fame again, so if there was something that I wanted to say to the world, what would it be?" And her good heart won over and she decided to go on a crusade of love and acceptance and whatnot. And everything happened because that's where her mind was at the moment, not because it was her plan all along.

Although BTW was the moment she lost credibility because of that injection of political statements.

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40 minutes ago, Metamorphosis said:

Yeah. During her peak in 2009-2011, Gaga was seen as a true visionary artist. I think people started getting turned off by her during the BTW era. Judas, the Jo Caldorone thing at the VMAs, and her intentionally "ugly" looks became too much for people. Not to mention her drastic personality change. ARTPOP just sped up the process. 

It was a slowely process, the people got sated because it was so much and they were not sure if it was worth it.

They were reminded that it was :hor:

Jo Caldorone in You & I and at the VMAs is one of the best things she's ever done. In 30 years it will be a real Gaga classic in pop culture. She switches to show that she is the universal superstar and that's what makes Gaga unqiue. 

So Gaga, bring Jo back please for new era, maybe he can be a little developed...

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2 hours ago, gagzus said:

for the most part the truth as of why gaga's art became non-accepted in the BTW era and afterwards is because;

1) she made a pro-equality song and [especially in america] homophobia and racism were (and still are) rife- amongst most of the public in every country actually so that played a MASSIVE part.

2) they realised she played them and used them just to get to a point of success any way she could so she could spread her message easier, and i'm sure she almost confirmed this in an interview once. The Fame & The Fame Monster will never happen again because they were an act she designed to get attention and success- something fans fail to realise, her true self is what we saw at her live shows and all the time from 2011 onwards.

3) her best work is from 2011 onwards because she made pop music with a real message and that was personal to her & the fans- it's a pity it seems like she's going to backtrack with LG5

I'm sorry but none of that is true. Gaga's art became non-accepted because she declined in quality. She reached a huge peak during 2010 in terms of quality, which is one of the reasons she was the biggest celebrity on the planet at that time. Every other pop star feared her and she set the trends. As a huge fan who lived through it all, I saw the decline from 2011 onward. With that said, I have high hopes for LG5.

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I don't know what people are talking about. Gaga's art has never been accepted.  The GP have always rolled their eyes at things like the VMAs performances, the meat dress, the egg vessel, the vomit artist and so on. Her art has always been divisive, even when it's not particularly shocking. 

I really hope this GRAMMYs performance could be a turning point, though. Bobby is going to make sure her art is 'palatable' from now on, at least for the next era. So I think she could pull it off, and make the GP realise what a genuinely talented all-round artist she is, not just a great vocal talent.

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People are over-romanticizing the love for Gaga's art at her peak. Everyone was mystified by her and she had the worlds attention. She was releasing high quality music and videos but at the same time a lot of people made hermaphrodite jokes about her. She was fresh and some people didn't know how to react. She wasn't really that appreciated then. I think she's more appreciated now than ever. 

Just like how people over romanticize her peak, they do the same for her downfall.   

People back then just didn't know what to think about Lady Gaga 

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