Pablo 7,886 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 what is this Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
420 1,042 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Exploiting the dead ic 9 minutes ago, Nino said: People dragging his artistic vision for this game must really have 0 clue what it's like to lose a parent So if you lose a parent, you'll make a game about how they go to heaven? What kind of logic is that? Also, I lost my mom and I'm still mentally ok. I don't feel like it's necessary to make my dead parent famous. 너와의 어색한 침묵이 차라리 좋아 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreyw 4,285 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 10 hours ago, pepsicoladew said: Didn't realize how hot u were Dawson since you mentioned it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, 420 said: Also, I lost my mom and I'm still mentally ok. I don't feel like it's necessary to make my dead parent famous. This isn't a symptom of Kanye West being mentally ill and he's not trying to make her some Kardashian celebrity. He's trying to pay tribute to the most important person to ever be a part of his life. Using his creativity to explore just a few more moments with his mother. You can try to erase Kanye West's humanity all you want but at the end of the day he did this out of pure, unconditional love for his mother. If you don't think that the love and respect a grown man has for a lost and sorely missed parent isn't the most beautiful thing there is then you're obviously not mature enough to understand the subject matter in the first place and explaining it is futile anyway. Go play call of duty or something. However absolutely do not try to devalue this work of art because you don't understand the love and honor and beauty of it, because that love is something forged in the deepst hell a man can experience and it's powerful and it's real whether the artist expressing it is a megalomaniac or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 27 minutes ago, Nino said: People dragging his artistic vision for this game must really have 0 clue what it's like to lose a parent My dad died when I was 13 and I think capitalizing off his death would be the most insulting thing ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staryu 6,162 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I bet that nobody would have made fun of this if it were a short film or whatever... sad. I do not know if the actual game will be any good (I doubt it tbh), but I love the art style. It's a good teaser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just now, SISTERV said: My dad died when I was 13 and I think capitalizing off his death would be the most insulting thing ever. Who says he's capitalizing off it? It's not like a game with no real gameplay will be a big moneymaker. It's more of a somewhat interactive piece of visual art. His 5,000 songs about his mom were far more commercial affairs, and before you judge them I'll remind you that Speechless is Gaga "capitalizing" on the fear of her father's death and TEOG is similarly 'greedy' by that logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Nino said: This isn't a symptom of Kanye West being mentally ill and he's not trying to make her some Kardashian celebrity. He's trying to pay tribute to the most important person to ever be a part of his life. Using his creativity to explore just a few more moments with his mother. You can try to erase Kanye West's humanity all you want but at the end of the day he did this out of pure, unconditional love for his mother. If you don't think that the love and respect a grown man has for a lost and sorely missed parent isn't the most beautiful thing there is then you're obviously not mature enough to understand the subject matter in the first place and explaining it is futile anyway. Go play call of duty or something. However absolutely do not try to devalue this work of art because you don't understand the love and honor and beauty of it, because that love is something forged in the deepst hell a man can experience and it's powerful and it's real whether the artist expressing it is a megalomaniac or not. The beauty of capitalizing off of his mother's death? Well....you can use big words all you want...but this still looks like a cheap disrespectful gimmick in my book to come off as having a soft spot. He wants to respect his mom, but then he disrespects someone's daughter in this same project (Taylor) by saying he made her famous and that she owes him sex. Not to mention he is disrespecting his wife (a mother) by saying that, and his daughter, by suggesting women are sexual objects that can be used for an "innocent humorous line" in a song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, SISTERV said: The beauty of capitalizing off of his mother's death? Well....you can use big words all you want...but this still looks like a cheap disrespectful gimmick in my book to come off as having a soft spot. He wants to respect his mom, but then he disrespects someone's daughter in this same project (Taylor) by saying he made her famous and that she owes him sex. Not to mention he is disrespecting his wife (a mother) by saying that, and his daughter, by suggesting women are sexual objects that can be used for an "innocent humorous line" in a song. What does any of this have to do with this game? It just seems like you don't like Kanye west and you lack the intelligence to seperate to art from the artist Furthermore if you knew the first thing about Kanye West you'd know that his mother was his life and the world he lives without her is a new death for him every day. Before he was known as a professional narcissist he was writing songs about his mom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 34 minutes ago, pepsicoladew said: Didn't realize how hot u were Dawson agreed! Can he train me. ?? Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nino said: Who says he's capitalizing off it? It's not like a game with no real gameplay will be a big moneymaker. It's more of a somewhat interactive piece of visual art. His 5,000 songs about his mom were far more commercial affairs, and before you judge them I'll remind you that Speechless is Gaga "capitalizing" on the fear of her father's death and TEOG is similarly 'greedy' by that logic. No it's not, because the purpose of those songs is not intended to glamorize the situation. Especially considering the fact he disrespects women on this record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicogly 2,579 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 One more reason to hate Kanye! Woo! I mean...c'mon dude, respect your mothers passing, this is kische and, sorry to say so, but low. Ever since Kanye began saying he is a G-d of music, and that he is the best, whatever whatever, I can't take anything that he does seriously, which is a shame because he does have amazing productions on his albums. Rock On and A Last One For the Road 🚬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicogly 2,579 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nino said: What does any of this have to do with this game? It just seems like you don't like Kanye west and you lack the intelligence to seperate to art from the artist No no, even taking the game as a sole project, without even mentioning that it is Kanye. Making a VIDEOGAME out of your mother's DEATH is very very low. I mean, it is not even done in a symbolic or meaningful way, no, it literally is a black angeled woman jumping through clouds... It could've been done subtlety, but instead it is pretty much on your face...idk, not a fan of it Rock On and A Last One For the Road 🚬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just now, SISTERV said: No it's not, because the purpose of those songs is not intended to glamorize the situation. Especially considering the fact he disrespects women on this record. Kanye isn't glamorizing the situation. He's imagining a world where the selfless act of raising a child is repayed with the "heaven", the idea of heaving being a place so beautiful and immaculate that mere humans can't even comprehend it. It's not glamorized, it's idealized. If being idealized is a wrongdoing than I guess every artist in history is a terrible filthy person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nicogly said: One more reason to hate Kanye! Woo! I mean...c'mon dude, respect your mothers passing, this is kische and, sorry to say so, but low. Ever since Kanye began saying he is a G-d of music, and that he is the best, whatever whatever, I can't take anything that he does seriously, which is a shame because he does have amazing productions on his albums. Just now, Nicogly said: No no, even taking the game as a sole project, without even mentioning that it is Kanye. Making a VIDEOGAME out of your mother's DEATH is very very low. I mean, it is not even done in a symbolic or meaningful way, no, it literally is a black angeled woman jumping through clouds... It could've been done subtlety, but instead it is pretty much on your face...idk, not a fan of it Literally all Christian depictions of heaven are massive and in your face, that's the whole concept. Google image search "gates of heaven" and find the proof yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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