Katie14 4,828 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: No. Happiness is perspective. If I lived thinking the only way I'd be happiest is to be a singer... I would always feel regretful and let down. Why would you want to live like that? I live through my own happiness and other's happiness. My best friends are talented and successful musicians, I'm not gifted like that BUT I'm happy for them. When Gaga says Never Give Up, she doesn't mean her specific journey but the journey you are on. Thats really great that you have that attitude. Its hard for a lot of people to have the maturity and perspective to think the way that you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Thats really great that you have that attitude. Its hard for a lot of people to have the maturity and perspective to think the way that you do. In college, I told myself I would be a music teacher. However, I spiraled into depression because the music scene is hard. And I never felt quite good enough. I took a year off, worked some different jobs and found my journey. I love fashion retail and learned I'm good with people, a great salesman and have an eye for fashion. If I would have told myself I HAVE to be in music, I probably would hate my job and life. But now I'm going for business management and am already working towards my career in my field. You can't let your original goals get in the way of your happiness. I don't know where I was going with that Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: There are many highly successful people who made it despite coming from poverty, or at least lesser means than Stefani Germanotta had growing up. And the point still holds true. Of course, you must be self-aware enough to know you are even good at what you want to do. I understand what you're saying, Gaga had cushioning to fall back on in case it didn't work out. But she didn't make it this far by having things handed to her. Thats mY problem right now. I dont know what im good at so although i have the desire to work hard at something, i dont know where to put my energy and passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Ga 15,314 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: No. Happiness is perspective. If I lived thinking the only way I'd be happiest is to be a singer... I would always feel regretful and let down. Why would you want to live like that? I live through my own happiness and other's happiness. My best friends are talented and successful musicians, I'm not gifted like that BUT I'm happy for them. When Gaga says Never Give Up, she doesn't mean her specific journey but the journey you are on. I love this. So true. Find your own path, everyone's journey is unique. "Never give up" can apply to everyone and their dreams, challenges, etc. Also I believe in finding happiness through yourself AND others. It is totally possible to enjoy the success of another person, and even get happiness from it, without jealousy. 🤖⚡️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 110,148 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 "Never Give Up" is a powerful words to inspire. It is simple but powerful. If you feel this way than be inspired, then something is wrong. Maybe it is the environment where you live or the way you were raised. Either way that is not positive at all. That sounds so pessimistic to me. It matters not what family they are coming from, Gaga didn't use her parents to live her dreams. She went go go dancing too, you know. And slept, unwillingly, with producer for it. Everyone have their own hardships. To Gaga, this words might mean something else. If she given up after getting raped, we will never have The Fame, we will never know Lady Gaga, if she given up when Troy left her which caused her depressions last year, she will never be standing on the field last night, and let millions of people in USA hear how powerful her voice were. You may need to rethink of your choices. No dreams are easy to achieve, you need to work for it. You need to earned it. And sometimes you have to fail 55 times, or even much more, before you landed into something you can call as yours. Each people have their own path. Just never give up from one failure to another. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ What it meant to be content with you (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Sometimes giving up can be the best choice the sooner the better. Not giving up on acheivment but giving up on a wrong turn and getting back on track as soon as possible. One of the main problems is that there are so many wrong turns available and so many people giving bad advice. It is like i was told to get a driving license and how important this was turns out it was just a major cost and loss of time the depression from being stuck in that situation cost even more. Maybe something to do later but not something that I really need to focus on for my goals. It is like putting an unnecessary obstacle. The best is just to take small steps and think carefuly about what is actually necessary and what is worth the effort what you really want and cut losses quick. In business I have quite a bit of success not that I am rich but I have a lot of time and a steady income that doesn't require much effort. To acheive that took a lot of effort but it was worth it really one of the things that helps me alot. Certainly gives me a lot of freedom from money. It was persistance but mainly knowledge. People say it is who you know but it is not always the case it can be what you know and if you know someone good it is coz they know something. definately lost a lot of time on wrong business moves that in hind site, though I learned something, sometimes it would have been better to reevaluate sooner. So give up on some things but not on life that is the thing like for me it is a struggle I get quite demoralised but you can't give up on life and sometimes things come easy too when your on the right track I guess there is somesort of guidance mechanism in feelings although I am not in the right mood today to elaborate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,655 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I appreciate very much that she stresses how important it is to not give up and to work hard. That's also her own mantra and she just has to remind herself, everyday, of it. Since i give up too easily, i really need someone to remind me everyday about it. It's very difficult to pursue a career in the arts field. Most people that do go far were born in a privileged family. And it's not only money where talking about, we're also talking about the intellectual structure of this family. I do have the dream of becoming a singer. I am already, but i still think of it as a dream. There's so many obstacles, and living from your music has such low odds that it's so easy to ditch the idea. It's a pitty none from my family had the capacity to understand i was tuned for performance arts as a kid. My mother knew i liked the theater but didn't had the money nor the time to send me to a school nearby (there weren't many). It's mainly my fault tho. I've seen this kids that make it. There are insistent and persistent. They know What they want and they'll make the parents do everything to ensure they go to auditions, pay classes etc. First time my mother heard me singing was probably when i was 15, my father only heard me singing one time and i think the micro was too far away. It's not only my fault, there was the divorce, the debts and my sister became a drug addict (which she successfully left). It would have been very different, i tell you that much. Even more if i wanted to become an opera singer, like i thought i would. Mostly because my mother never had the understanding that it would be possible to pursue such a path. In that, she didn't trust in me like Stefani's parents. But it's was a way of protecting that became a bit damaging. But there's a lot of other things necessary to become successful (applies to pop singers or in general) other than a family with means. Still, your background is mostly important. Stimulation is the most basic premise for success in my opinion: interacting with people makes you easily more social, etc. It's not just the money but the overall environment of the family. What you say about successful people saying "never give up" is like when you are sad and people tell you to cheer up. lol But everyone that had a depression major depression disorder or something like that knows that it goes away and almost suddenly you are ok. Or almost ok, for a while. So, i got lost but yes, i need her to tell me to not give up and show me that even though she's not miss pretty, she's awkward as ****, she can still get there. You have to remind yourself everyday that you are a ****ing star, and grab the momentum. Find a person that believes in you and make the best of it. And always be prepared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 "Never Give Up" doesn't mean everyone can be a superstar, famous or a multi-millionaire. You have to have goals and aspirations that are somewhat realistic in the first place and then realize that there are different definitions of success. You never give up on your dream, but you have to know where your talent and intelligence can take you, and common sense to adjust your expectations of the outcome. A 5'7" male basketball player has a slim to none chance of going pro, but he can do other things with his love of the game and his desire to play. He can still have basketball in his life, in some form, if that is his wish. The goal has to be grounded in some level of realism. Even if this guy's high school and college career didn't take him to the pros, his persistence would have taught him discipline, made him part of a team, possibly helped keep him out of trouble at some points and given him a high school diploma and college degree. Even if you had to adjust your expectation, what did the journey give you? How can you continue to use that in your life? If you are the type of person who "never gives up", you continue to find a way to live a life filled with passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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