RadioGAGA Trailer 2

[Antoni 5,332]

4 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

Which two originals? I only remember two causing any drama.

Myself and @Justinn . And to be honest, I was afraid of doing this again. But Justin convinced me and said he wouldn't do it without me.  

[FATCAT 60,296]

32 minutes ago, Timmers said:

Yep. Huge mess. That's what happens when you've been raising yourself since fourth grade, have been homeless twice, have no family for support, and are still dedicated to doing what you love: you do what you love and it takes a long ass time to make it perfect.

I'd love to see what you'd make if you spent more time doing what you love and less trashing other people. Unless trashing is what you love. In which case...

 

 

There is nothing I despise more than using your life story as a weapon. Why use your story to shame others from criticizing your work? If this is still your mentality, and I'm assuming this is you Tim, RadioGaga is poised to fail by the same means as RadioARTPOP. If chicaskas wasn't on the project, I'd have absolutely no hope for it.

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

On 1/26/2016 at 7:57 AM, Harry said:

I love how over the top it all is when it'll likely just be a few people Skyping each other from their basements talking about how amazing Gaga is every week.

 

[Antoni 5,332]

1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

There is nothing I despise more than using your life story as a weapon. Why use your story to shame others from criticizing your work? If this is still your mentality, and I'm assuming this is you Tim, RadioGaga is poised to fail by the same means as RadioARTPOP. If chicaskas wasn't on the project, I'd have absolutely no hope for it.

My life story isn't a weapon, it is a truth. If someone wants to judge the quality of my work, that's fine, but keep in mind I'm not claiming to be some Perez Hilton or that POPULOVE is the next BreatheHeavy or (forgive me now) GagaDaily. I am very honest about what my life is like between being able to work on my projects, and I will continue to be honest about that. I don't compare my work to anyone else's because I don't have the resources or finances to try and compete, and I want that to be known. I do all that I do out of a love for it, not to be the best.

If someone wants to criticize my work and then offer to add their own skills to it, that's totally different. Do it. Let's help each other do what we like doing. But having internet access doesn't mean every 12-year-old should be allowed to just throw shade or harass other people. #SpreadLove 

[FATCAT 60,296]

1 minute ago, Timmers said:

My life story isn't a weapon, it is a truth. If someone wants to judge the quality of my work, that's fine, but keep in mind I'm not claiming to be some Perez Hilton or that POPULOVE is the next BreatheHeavy or (forgive me now) GagaDaily. I am very honest about what my life is like between being able to work on my projects, and I will continue to be honest about that. I don't compare my work to anyone else's because I don't have the resources or finances to try and compete, and I want that to be known. I do all that I do out of a love for it, not to be the best.

If someone wants to criticize my work and then offer to add their own skills to it, that's totally different. Do it. Let's help each other do what we like doing. But having internet access doesn't mean every 12-year-old should be allowed to just throw shade or harass other people. #SpreadLove 

But you used your life story as an excuse for your own self-admitted failures. As if your situation stopped your work from taking off. You're trying to make them feel bad for you, and it's cheap and not appreciated.

[Antoni 5,332]

2 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

But you used your life story as an excuse for your own self-admitted failures. As if your situation stopped your work from taking off. You're trying to make them feel bad for you, and it's cheap and not appreciated.

I'm telling you, human to human, with different experiences and perspectives: that is not my intention. I can't make you believe me, and that's okay. 

I don't ever think about "why didn't my work take off." I only think "what do I want to do next." 

Edit: And from my experience with Radio ARTPOP, I never want another project to have an endorsement of that size until it's perfect in my eyes. Nothing I'm working on right now meets my expectations of perfection. But I enjoy it

[FATCAT 60,296]

1 minute ago, Timmers said:

I'm telling you, human to human, with different experiences and perspectives: that is not my intention. I can't make you believe me, and that's okay. 

I don't ever think about "why didn't my work take off." I only think "what do I want to do next." 

Well, you need to work on your communication skills, because you're terrible at relaying your intentions. I've seen a couple instances of that, from friends of mine and from this very site. That's probably most of the issue that people have with you, what you say isn't what you mean, but you don't make that clear, so you come across as rude or, in some cases, you can't let things go.

[Antoni 5,332]

Just now, FATCAT said:

Well, you need to work on your communication skills, because you're terrible at relaying your intentions. I've seen a couple instances of that, from friends of mine and from this very site. That's probably most of the issue that people have with you, what you say isn't what you mean, but you don't make that clear, so you come across as rude or, in some cases, you can't let things go.

This is still a Radio GAGA thread, not a Tim thread. If you want to talk more, send me a message. We can even talk over the phone. I'd like your input on being a better communicator so that these conversations happen less often. 

[Harry 26,836]

1 hour ago, Justinn said:

Sorry we don't half azz our sh!t. And I live in a mansion with no basement so.. whatever. Very kind of you to drop in and spew negativity. Go pander for likes somewhere else. 

You're trash.

1 hour ago, Timmers said:

I remember that show. That's when my little basement hobby got Gaga's attention. Man, you can't imagine how stressed we all were, trying to figure out if we were trying to please her or the fanbase. We just wanted to have fun with our friends. We were jumping on Hangouts for eight months before she ever noticed. It was like "****, now we have to turn this fun little project into a sort of product?" But look at the ARTPOP era. That was the whole era. She wasn't happy, we weren't happy, but we all tried our best with what we were given. I hope someday this fanbase will understand that and stop judging us. 

Presumably you're one of the people on the show? In that case I respect your answer to me and if you want the fanbase to stop judging you I would advise you to encourage your cowards like the asshole quoted above you to stop speaking down to everyone else just because they are/were on the show.

Glad you got something out of it by being noticed by her but I also hope you realise that if you have a platform to the entire fanbase you should use it by being positive and inclusive - NOT from a self-righteous pedestal. Listen to these "judgements" because it has the potential to be something positive and rewarding for all of us, not just the select few that actually take part.

[Born Brave 2,072]

2 minutes ago, Harry said:

You're trash.

Presumably you're one of the people on the show? In that case I respect your answer to me and if you want the fanbase to stop judging you I would advise you to encourage your cowards like the asshole quoted above you to stop speaking down to everyone else just because they are/were on the show.

Glad you got something out of it by being noticed by her but I also hope you realise that if you have a platform to the entire fanbase you should use it by being positive and inclusive - NOT from a self-righteous pedestal. Listen to these "judgements" because it has the potential to be something positive and rewarding for all of us, not just the select few that actually take part.

You're a child. An adolescent. 

[Harry 26,836]

1 minute ago, Justinn said:

You're a child. 

That's factually incorrect but nice try. All of your responses to me in regards to this issue have proved the issue that I and many other fans have with you guys. Your colleague actually gave a decent and respectful response to me and the others. Maybe you should take notes from him.

[Florian 19,982]

Why is this thread turning into personal comments instead of discussing about this new project?

Some of you guys are way too inclined to criticize people. If you don't like the show or the hosts then just move on, or come with well-thought-out arguments instead of trashy personal attacks.

Moreover, you're judging Tim like if he hasn't changed in the last few years. Give him a break, you don't know him nor do I, you don't know if he has changed. Same thing about the show, most of the negative comments are "Oh no not this shitty radio ARTPOP again", while they'll come with something new. Correct me if I'm wrong but most people learn from their failures. ChicaSkas, Tim and Justin seem quite smart, and I don't think they'll make the same mistakes.

[Sizzily 14,543]

@Harry @Justinn And everyone else

Holy, sh*t, stop this nonsense and drop it. We don't want another thread supporting this show to get locked. And why do you care so much anyway, @Harry? What harm is fans having fun doing to you? I'm so sick of these pointless arguments that just lead to childish insults. 

[Antoni 5,332]

21 minutes ago, Harry said:

Presumably you're one of the people on the show? In that case I respect your answer to me and if you want the fanbase to stop judging you I would advise you to encourage your cowards like the asshole quoted above you to stop speaking down to everyone else just because they are/were on the show.

Glad you got something out of it by being noticed by her but I also hope you realise that if you have a platform to the entire fanbase you should use it by being positive and inclusive - NOT from a self-righteous pedestal. Listen to these "judgements" because it has the potential to be something positive and rewarding for all of us, not just the select few that actually take part.

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Hi Harry. My name is Tim. I started the show with me and four other GagaDaily members in January 2013. Justin is one of them and is one of the best people I have met in this fanbase. I am lucky to have him as a friend. I hope you'll understand that I don't want to be included in the ongoing problem between the two of you.

I'm confident you're going to really appreciate this new effort. We are not only trying to include as many fans as possible on the show, but we are designing the show to include GagaDaily in our videos and plan on using GagaDaily as the only Lady Gaga fansite for Monsters to engage with the show off air.

That's completely different from what we did before.  Before, we were only thinking of having fun and entertaining a very small population of the fanbase as the era approached. When it was noticed by Gaga, something small and inadequate was put under a microscope by a majority of the fanbase, and chaos ensued.

As a member of GagaDaily, had I not been behind the show, I don't think I would have liked it either. But being on the show, we came under fire so often for doing this or not doing that, that we were between a rock and a hard place. I wasn't prepared to take the small hobby and turn it into a great YouTube sensation. I didn't have any experience with that and never expected I'd need to. With just a few weeks before the album release date, we didn't have the time to stop for a couple weeks and reorganize the project for a new audience. That meant it was a lot easier to listen to the guys and gals who were watching before than it was to listen to users on GagaDaily, Gaga Daily, etc. It also meant it was very easy to hate users on these fansites for extremely harsh and oftentimes nasty comments made towards us. That built up, along with drama behind the scenes from some enlarged egos who thought the show shouldn't have guests any more, and the big picture wasn't just lost: it was really never found.

Sorry for the novel. My point is, with Chica's help and with almost 12 months to reflect on Radio ARTPOP and all that went wrong, what you're asking for is exactly what we're hoping to achieve: something positive and rewarding for all Monsters, in any corner of the internet. I hope that you'll continue to offer constructive criticism like this in the future. I always appreciate a fair perspective.

[Harry 26,836]

3 minutes ago, Sizzliy said:

@Harry @Justinn And everyone else

Holy, sh*t, stop this nonsense and drop it. We don't want another thread supporting this show to get locked. And why do you care so much anyway, @Harry? What harm is fans having fun doing to you? I'm so sick of these pointless arguments that just lead to childish insults. 

Literally shut up I'm not gonna stop voicing my opinion because you don't like it. Justin's the only one I have a personal issue with now because he's proved himself to be exactly what I expected of this show. Tim responded to me in a civil manner and I'm happy to carry on with him in that way. Justin I'm going to try and avoid because he's trash. So are you going to continue to hop onto my posts and make it into a bigger deal than it needs to be or are you gonna quit with the faux-peace loving mediator shtick? Either way stop telling me what to do lol

Just now, Timmers said:

Hi Harry. My name is Tim. I started the show with me and four other GagaDaily members in January 2013. Justin is one of them and is one of the best people I have met in this fanbase. I am lucky to have him as a friend. I hope you'll understand that I don't want to be included in the ongoing problem between the two of you.

I'm confident you're going to really appreciate this new effort. We are not only trying to include as many fans as possible on the show, but we are designing the show to include GagaDaily in our videos and plan on using GagaDaily as the only Lady Gaga fansite for Monsters to engage with the show off air.

That's completely different from what we did before.  Before, we were only thinking of having fun and entertaining a very small population of the fanbase as the era approached. When it was noticed by Gaga, something small and inadequate was put under a microscope by a majority of the fanbase, and chaos ensued.

As a member of GagaDaily, had I not been behind the show, I don't think I would have liked it either. But being on the show, we came under fire so often for doing this or not doing that, that we were between a rock and a hard place. I wasn't prepared to take the small hobby and turn it into a great YouTube sensation, and I didn't. With just a few weeks before the album release date, we didn't have the time to stop for a couple weeks and reorganize the project for a new audience. That meant it was a lot easier to listen to the guys and gals who were watching before than it was to listen to users on GagaDaily, Gaga Daily, etc. It also meant it was very easy to hate users on these fansites for extremely harsh and oftentimes nasty comments made towards us. That built up, along with drama behind the scenes from some enlarged egos who thought the show shouldn't have guests any more, and the big picture wasn't just lost: it was really never found.

Sorry for the novel. My point is, with Chica's help and with almost 12 months to reflect on Radio ARTPOP and all that went wrong, what you're asking for is exactly what we're hoping to achieve: something positive and rewarding for all Monsters, in any corner of the internet. I hope that you'll continue to offer constructive criticism like this in the future. I always appreciate a fair perspective.

I understand that it's weird to go from nothing to suddenly being recognised by the entire fanbase. And it's a big task to take on. Even though I've been a little harsh I'm glad you're listening to my point aside from the snide nature of my posts - the reason for which is because I thought all of you acted like Justin does to criticism but clearly you aren't doing that, and I hope that's a good sign for what you're going to do.

Before we had this conversation I wasn't going to give the new show the time of day but because of how you've reacted I will give the first episode a shot. I'm sure because of how much time you've had to look back on Radio ARTPOP you will know better than I do the steps you should take in order to get a better response from the viewers. I know I don't speak for anyone else, just me. But I still respect that you're willing to take that on. I hope that Radio Gaga will have a similarly balanced stance on whatever Gaga does and I hope you don't place yourselves above anybody else in the fanbase even if you do once again get recognition.