Sam Smith faces backlash on twitter after "Whiteplaining"

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well if people know that he's a drama queen, as you suggest, then what makes the topic of race more worthy of scrutiny? He's a drama queen. #thread

Sam has nothing to gain from this sort of issue. I'd be more suspicious of Jada Pinkett Smith and her boycott of the Oscars to further her own reputation within the black community than a British person talking about racial issues and having Americans get pressed over it.

Good thing I'm not a cynic and know it's not true.

I do agree with you here that people form opinions on others based on their hate or dislike of that person therefore their opinions can sometimes be biased. There are times where people pull the race card in situations that don't need be. 

[Redstreak 6,653]

See this is the **** that people are talking about. It's a story about someone experiencing racism that quickly devolved into how white people are "treated unfairly" in these conversations.

[elijahfan 26,358]

That's the biggest reach I've ever read. After all the cultural appropriation bs we've been fed with, now you can't even express empathy anymore..... I mean, people.... Maybe it's time to use your energy towards actual problems instead of looking for excuses to call each and every white person on earth racist. There are people in the world who are actually dying, and that's really a Sam Smith tweet that we should be most bothered about?

[PartySick 161,063]

1 hour ago, Alien Tulip said:

Anderson Cooper talks about racism but he doesn't play the victim and he takes time to see their perspectives and the struggles they go through and actually does something about it instead of tweeting about it hence why he doesn't get backlash

I don't see how he's playing the victim  he said he was shocked at the racist display and wanted to do something. Not sure why that's a bad thing tbh

Like, I see your point, I just don't agree

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[DrewStevens 5,249]

23 minutes ago, Alien Tulip said:

I said he didn't get backlash when he spoke about rights of minority blacks. 

 

21 minutes ago, Alien Tulip said:

One of the comments from the articles even said he spoke about police brutality but now he's trying to play it off as "oh i'm shocked about racist cops in the UK" even though he spoke about it before. It all just seems so calculated. 

Referring to "no-go zones" affects minorities and that's why he got backlash, because misleading people to think those zones are real increases the hate Muslims get.

The comment section is not a reliable source. You can't base your judgement on some random comment. I tried to find something but it seems like he never said anything an about the police in that country.

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5 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

See this is the **** that people are talking about. It's a story about someone experiencing racism that quickly devolved into how white people are "treated unfairly" in these conversations.

The story talks about racism yet is racist itself.. this is what people are pointing out! Im glad people like you are acting this way because this is how you will end yourselves and your movements.

[pie-kun 1,765]

I'm so sick of this whole "this celeb is problematic" thing as it seems to be a VERY thinly veiled way for people to attack celebs they don't like. 

Really the only way you can read anything offensive in these tweets is if you're actively looking for something to be offended by because you want to tear down his reputation. Honestly the OP was embarrassing to read because it was so full of absolute baseless accusations and speculation. It's shocking to me that someone got paid to write this.

[Whispering 18,865]

33 minutes ago, Alien Tulip said:

This whole sentence right here is based off a judgment from some type of animosity towards me as you don't know my life behind this forum to even be saying I need to be educated as if I'm celebrity or something. We can have a proper discussion if you're taking this thread seriously. I could have listed other journalists as well but I only used his name because it's recognizable on this forum. Everyone with a functioning brain knows that there are thousands tragic events going on throughout the entire planet earth. If you're going to "call me out" for not being educated from that sentence then maybe you should post more threads about the issues that go on throughout the entire world. I'm not saying you should but reminding you and how that sentence doesn't exactly make sense to a random poster on a pop music forum. 

No, that line was based on the fact that you were heralding Anderson as some type of anomaly, when journalists across the world are involved in promoting racial equality. I was calling you out for the comparison in the first place. Comparing someone who devotes their whole life (including their career) to the events happening in every corner of the world to some guy simply calling out a racial incident directed towards a friend is a ridiculous comparison to make in the first place. 

I contribute to the World News section on a frequent basis, and was very much involved in the threads concerning the police brutality against minorities in the US over the last eighteen months. If you were contributing more to that section of the forum, maybe you would see that. I don't spend most of my time focusing on hair and lipstick color. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, pie-kun said:

I'm so sick of this whole "this celeb is problematic" thing as it seems to be a VERY thinly veiled way for people to attack celebs they don't like. 

Really the only way you can read anything offensive in these tweets is if you're actively looking for something to be offended by because you want to tear down his reputation.

It's probably monsters trying to tarnish his reputation in time for the Oscars to make up for Gaga's incident earlier this week 

[Redstreak 6,653]

6 minutes ago, Fays1 said:

The story talks about racism yet is racist itself.. this is what people are pointing out! Im glad people like you are acting this way because this is how you will end yourselves and your movements.

The only thing that's ending is your way of thinking

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

I mean...he's being an ally. 

As a gay man you face discrimination too, so i can understand why that hurts him to see that because he can have some understanding of what that's like. I don't think it's a bad thing to be empathetic. Human beings are self oriented individuals, he's not making it about himself, his just expressing how he felt about the incident because thats all he can do. He can't get inside the mind of that person he saw being discriminated against to express their feelings. 

Please, let's not push away those who are allies. 

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14 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

The only thing that's ending is your way of thinking

I did not even express my way of thinking for you to judge it.. I just gave a fact and a prediction  

Your way of thinking is based on emotions, not logic and thats why you could not even make one argument anyone here that commented! People supported these movements at first because it sounds nice and good witch made people feel better but once you turn that table on these people and start accuse them and everyone of racism, all this will end.

If you go with your logic and way of thinking, im sure you are a racist too.. the favorite thing to do is to sit with people like you and lead you into making a statement that I know is considered racist in your community and start calling you a racist.

[JanPianoMusic 730]

1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said:

Why would he publicize his friend's experience or talk about his friend's feelings on his own account?

It's not his place. It is however his place to say his own feelings.

Considering you don't know the context of what happened, it's not your place to tell him how he should feel or talk about it either. Why should he stay quiet too? 

You all need to sit down.

 

He would talk about his friend's feelings because he/she was the one who was affected directly in the situation. I think that was the main criticism people had about this non-issue: they felt like he made it about himself. 

[Redstreak 6,653]

4 minutes ago, Fays1 said:

I did not even express my way of thinking for you to judge it.. I just gave a fact and a prediction  

Your way of thinking is based on emotions, not logic and thats why you could not even make one argument anyone here that commented! People supported these movements at first because it sounds nice and good witch made people feel better but once you turn that table on these people and start accuse them and everyone of racism, all this will end.

Ok but being an ally and supportive doesn't mean you suddenly erase all instances of being problematic. No one is calling Sam Smith racism, but to turn a racist experience your friend endured into a discussion on how your gonna try and be a white savior is a little iffy. I mean do you think minorities are just supposed to bow down to an ally simply because they're a white person who cares? How do you not get better as an ally if not by being told you're doing something that could be considered problematic?