giskardsb 12,565 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 From an entertainment lawyer: http://lawyerdrummer.com/resources/what-constitutes-songwriting-the-million-dollar-question-in-the-music-biz/ Generally speaking, any significant contribution to melody, lyrics, or structure typically counts as songwriting. We generally think of a songwriter with their guitar writing the songs and strumming chords, and the melody coming from a combination of those chords and the vocal. But a signature guitar riff (like Keith’s famous lick in “Satisfaction” or the riff in “Smoke on the Water”) might count as songwriting. Or the bass line on Queen’s “Another One Bites the Dust”, or drum intro on their classic “We Will Rock You”. It’s hard to imagine these songs with any other bass line or drum beat, and they form as much of the structure and in fact melody of the songs as the guitar and vocals. A great example is the Procol Harum case, wherein organist Matthew Fisher sued the band for past royalties due from their massive 1967 hit “A Whiter Shade of Pale”, on which he played the main organ theme. Mr. Fisher was never given songwriting on the song, and felt that his organ riff was a critical part of the song’s structure and melody. At trial, his contribution to the song was deemed to be 40%, which amounted to millions in retroactive royalties since 1967. Sadly for him, he lost it all on appeal, with the court declaring his delayed claim “excessive and inexcusable” (he had waited 38 years to make claim, as he knew it would be the end of his tenure in the group!). However — generally speaking — adding a guitar solo or drumbeat or organ over an existing song structure (and not contributing to the actual structure or melody of the song) is not typically considered songwriting. As you can see, what constitutes songwriting is very much a question of degree. Let’s look at some real world examples to provide some clarity. - See more at: http://lawyerdrummer.com/resources/what-constitutes-songwriting-the-million-dollar-question-in-the-music-biz/#sthash.EpTDy8cP.dpuf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade 5,603 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 GAGA WON ONCE AGAIN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Time to hand it to Linda I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, vocalqueef said: GAGA WON ONCE AGAIN don't you mean TALENT WON ONCE AGAIN? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTHUNTER 7,611 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Talent always wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bromance 5,809 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, HEARTHUNTER said: Talent always wins. Totally!! A perfect time to use this flawless GIF, too! I don't care what you think about unless it is about me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,361 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, HEARTHUNTER said: Talent always wins. Thank you Ryan Murphy for the new handful of useful gifts...these are priceless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Like what I said, Gaga produced the song, alone meaning she re-arrange the structure of it, including putting up the melody so that alone proves she's part of the song writing. Poor haters. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It is presented to the songwriters who have composed the best original song written specifically for a film. The performers of a song are not credited with the Academy Award unless they contributed either to music, lyrics or both in their own right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Original_Song Meaning, even if that Linda gurl was right that Gaga didn't get involved in puttting up the lyrics, the Academy would still include Gaga to the nomination bc she obviously put a lot of input to the song especially for its melody. Spoiler Therefore, talent always wins at the end. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade 5,603 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, Curunir said: don't you mean TALENT WON ONCE AGAIN? isn't that the same thing tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Doesn't solve anything. Linda says Gaga's contribution wasn't significant enough, Diane says it is. So we're left with the same issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 "My sincere apologies. I made a mistake to comment. I wasn't in the room when the #TIHTY was being written. More importantly, I wish the focus to remain on the great importance of the song and the message of the film." https://twitter.com/RealLindaPerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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