Cher RANTS about Bernie Sanders on Twitter

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6 hours ago, thedirtymonster said:

Hillary Clinton has, and always will support universal healthcare. You are mistaking Universal Healthcare for "FREE" Healthcare. Under the affordable care act, if everyone were to comply, we would have real healthcare for all. There are a few tweaks that need to be made to the ACA, but we are on the right track. "Free" healthcare is not "free" as so many people think (thanks to Senator Sanders' creative verbage). His plan would cost about $15 TRILLION and he hasn't stated how he's going to pay for it specifically. I wrote a post on the last page about socialism and how they pay for those programs. The average income tax rate in socialist Denmark is 55%. That means if you make $1000 a month, you're paying $550 of your income to the Government. I don't know about you, but I make more than $1000 a month, and I'm still paying WAYYY less than $550 a month on healthcare. It's your choice. Mine is certainly for Hillary Clinton.

Yes, over a 10 year period.

 

How much do you think we pay right now?  (Hint, it's twice the amount of Bernie's plan)

Bernie's plan would end up saying people thousands of dollars.

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3 hours ago, Luc said:

There's a reason why the rest of the world thinks the US if full of idiots and it's because of the Republican party and their supporters! In Europe, over 80% supports Obama! It's not because of Obama, it's Bush. It's the crazy Christian conservatives. It's the Jehovah's witnesses, Amish. It's the crazy, illogical love for everything Israel and hate for everything Arab. It's the death punishment, the Vietnam war, the Korea war, Iraq, Afghanistan. It's the backwards, reactionary gun-crazy Mid-West

Wait, people dislike Americans because of the Amish?

Do they know anything about the Amish? I mean, their lifestyle is VERY different, but growing up we lived very close to "Amish Country" and spent a lot of time there...my family still keeps in close touch with some Amish people who are very kind. And their sense of community is one people could do to learn from. 

(Otherwise I totally understand why people outside of the US would dislike the things you listed )

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27 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Wait, people dislike Americans because of the Amish?

Do they know anything about the Amish? I mean, their lifestyle is VERY different, but growing up we lived very close to "Amish Country" and spent a lot of time there...my family still keeps in close touch with some Amish people who are very kind. And their sense of community is one people could do to learn from. 

(Otherwise I totally understand why people outside of the US would dislike the things you listed )

Yeah, people laugh at those ideas here  or at least in my environment they do. But anyways the biggest reason the US is hated is because of the US' supremacy and nationalism. You can't, logically, hate a whole country either way..

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I'm Canadian.

I would vote for Sanders (apparently I'm 94% in agreement with him)

But I'm realistic. He's to old to run the US. However, He NEEDS to be close to the President, (I'm thinking vice) (assuming Dems will win).

The US needs a man like him. The world too.

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4 hours ago, Luc said:

There's a reason why the rest of the world thinks the US if full of idiots and it's because of the Republican party and their supporters! In Europe, over 80% supports Obama! It's not because of Obama, it's Bush. It's the crazy Christian conservatives. It's the Jehovah's witnesses, Amish. It's the crazy, illogical love for everything Israel and hate for everything Arab. It's the death punishment, the Vietnam war, the Korea war, Iraq, Afghanistan. It's the backwards, reactionary gun-crazy Mid-West

Sorry but you are incorrect...if you ever picked up an American history book you would know that that is exactly what our country was found upon. America was a super power because of its constant Christian views and relations with other countries like Israel. And idk if you've noticed but Obama is a huge joke and his programs that he created (like obamacare) has ****ed everyone over in the United States. He's a Shity president and i'm sorry but I could are less about what Europeans think in this situation because they don't like here like I do. And idk where your from but you obviously are out of the loop.

 

 

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Cher, don't make me burn my stan card   I swear if Hillary gets the nom, I'm writing Bernie in. I REFUSE to vote for that vile witch and it makes me nauseous that so many gays are creaming themselves over her. WAKE UP people!! 

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5 hours ago, cameron9814 said:

Sorry but you are incorrect...if you ever picked up an American history book you would know that that is exactly what our country was found upon. America was a super power because of its constant Christian views and relations with other countries like Israel. And idk if you've noticed but Obama is a huge joke and his programs that he created (like obamacare) has ****ed everyone over in the United States. He's a Shity president and i'm sorry but I could are less about what Europeans think in this situation because they don't like here like I do. And idk where your from but you obviously are out of the loop.

 

 

At the same time Obamacare saved tens of thousands of lives.

I don't know if you noticed, but the US, by investing rather than cutting, now has low unemployment. In Europe, with right-wing policy, no country is close to being fully out of recession.

I just wonder... how did Obama **** you over?

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3 minutes ago, Luc said:

At the same time Obamacare saved tens of thousands of lives.

I don't know if you noticed, but the US, by investing rather than cutting, now has low unemployment. In Europe, with right-wing policy, no country is close to being fully out of recession.

I just wonder... how did Obama **** you over?

I had great insurance with a great family doctor that I knew very well. Then Obamacare was announced and we were promised to be able to keep our insurance if we wanted to. That didn't last long. We were forced out of our insurance and our doctor and forced to pay more for Obama's insurance for less of the benefits from our previous one. He has cost our family tons of money to pay for other peoples care. And don't make me sound like a bitch that doesn't care about peoples lives but its not my responsibility to give away money for people to get health care. Idk if you knew this but obamacare is the first thing in US history that was forced upon the entire population to purchase. That's ridiculous. I'm just saying America was the place everyone came to in order to start a life and they did (legally) now millions come (illegally) to get free ****. This is not what we were founded upon. And stop bringing up European countries cuz that's not what the discussion is about.

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4 minutes ago, cameron9814 said:

I had great insurance with a great family doctor that I knew very well. Then Obamacare was announced and we were promised to be able to keep our insurance if we wanted to. That didn't last long. We were forced out of our insurance and our doctor and forced to pay more for Obama's insurance for less of the benefits from our previous one. He has cost our family tons of money to pay for other peoples care. And don't make me sound like a bitch that doesn't care about peoples lives but its not my responsibility to give away money for people to get health care. Idk if you knew this but obamacare is the first thing in US history that was forced upon the entire population to purchase. That's ridiculous. I'm just saying America was the place everyone came to in order to start a life and they did (legally) now millions come (illegally) to get free ****. This is not what we were founded upon. And stop bringing up European countries cuz that's not what the discussion is about.

What was America founded upon? 

I think Democrat ideas like free education fit ideas like that everybody has equal opportunity more. Other than that the country was built upon imperialism and slavery  

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There are actually quite a few interesting and enlightening posts in this thread, and others are just...

 

 

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7 hours ago, Luc said:

What was America founded upon? 

I think Democrat ideas like free education fit ideas like that everybody has equal opportunity more. Other than that the country was built upon imperialism and slavery  

Im talking about the people who sailed across the Atlantic ocean escaping from the king to look for freedom. And yeah there was slavery and **** but there was slavery all over the world and its not like we went to Africa and stole people. African tribes would kill each other and send each other to be slaves. And the Republican president Abraham Lincoln was the one who helped with the freeing of slaves.  Republicans are the only party that make any logical sense. But the ****in media makes them sound like selfish idiots. And yeah some are stupid but some will be amazing presidents.

They don't hate Mexicans...they just want the people who came into America illegally idk what people don't get that? They are breaking the law and republicans just don't want them to be here if they are going to not follow the rules. And the Muslim thing... not once did Trump say that he's going to deport every Muslim. He's going to do extensive background checks on them because there is a major terrorist group killing millions of people. God forbid someone would try to save American from ISIS  

There have been good Democrat presidents but they have become such wimps and making the American people think they can just get free money if they don't make enough. And yeah there are people that really need it but a whole lot of families that get that money, rather than try to get better jobs or move to a better place they buy stuff they don't need like tv and internet and **** like that.

Im just saying from the beginning that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are awful and would not help the countries situations. We need something different and not a even worse replay of the last 8 years.

And if you don't mind what "awful Christian" things did Bush do?

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I love Bernie but i've been told my vote for him won't even matter because Hillary always wins NY in a landslide. My jewish fiance says a jewish socialist will never get the nomination, sadly. That's just how America is. I would love to have our first Jewish president. Hillary has to much power. He may be the better candidate but I don't think he will make it to win. 

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5 hours ago, cameron9814 said:

Im talking about the people who sailed across the Atlantic ocean escaping from the king to look for freedom. And yeah there was slavery and **** but there was slavery all over the world and its not like we went to Africa and stole people. African tribes would kill each other and send each other to be slaves. And the Republican president Abraham Lincoln was the one who helped with the freeing of slaves.  Republicans are the only party that make any logical sense. But the ****in media makes them sound like selfish idiots. And yeah some are stupid but some will be amazing presidents.

They don't hate Mexicans...they just want the people who came into America illegally idk what people don't get that? They are breaking the law and republicans just don't want them to be here if they are going to not follow the rules. And the Muslim thing... not once did Trump say that he's going to deport every Muslim. He's going to do extensive background checks on them because there is a major terrorist group killing millions of people. God forbid someone would try to save American from ISIS  

There have been good Democrat presidents but they have become such wimps and making the American people think they can just get free money if they don't make enough. And yeah there are people that really need it but a whole lot of families that get that money, rather than try to get better jobs or move to a better place they buy stuff they don't need like tv and internet and **** like that.

Im just saying from the beginning that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are awful and would not help the countries situations. We need something different and not a even worse replay of the last 8 years.

And if you don't mind what "awful Christian" things did Bush do?

But what is freedom? There are two types of freedom:

1. Paying no taxes (the right-wing way)

2. Being born with equal opportunity (free education), and having no sudden, unforeseeable costs (free healthcare, welfare for the unemployed/disabled)

The second option needs taxes, and if done progressively, the second option is better from an economic and moral view.

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5 hours ago, ladydoppelgaga said:

I love Bernie but i've been told my vote for him won't even matter because Hillary always wins NY in a landslide. My jewish fiance says a jewish socialist will never get the nomination, sadly. That's just how America is. I would love to have our first Jewish president. Hillary has to much power. He may be the better candidate but I don't think he will make it to win. 

This is exactly the problem, I live in NY & I am still voting for Bernie. Don't give in to that Witch + I think a lot of NYers are on board with Bernie as many polls show that Bernie would win with Millenials by 94%

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5 minutes ago, ALEXANDRE said:

This is exactly the problem, I live in NY & I am still voting for Bernie. Don't give in to that Witch + I think a lot of NYers are on board with Bernie as many polls show that Bernie would win with Millenials by 94%

Primarys are coming right up! Can't wait to see what happens