Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Rising said: I don't think some of you realize that we still PAY for health care, as Americans. 3 trillion dollars a year one way or another. In ten years that's 30 trillion. Y'all want to know what Hillary tried to use as an attack against Bernie? That his plan would cost 15 trillion )over a ten year period). Um ? Exactly, not to mention that Bernie's play would save the average american thousands of dollars every year. Hillary is also a hypocrite for it, since in 2008 she said Democrats should not tear each other down on universal healthcare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rising said: Because in order to fix a struggling economy is to not invest in the people who spend to make that economy work in the first place? These aren't little ideologies that will never happen. They're logical policies that have been used by the government in the past. There is a difference between making college affordable and making it mandatory. And to say that college needs to be kept some special thing that only a select few can do shows a gross ignorance of what types of jobs the U.S. will be creating in the future and what we'll need to do to compete in the global market. We should invest in the middle class by taxing them and their bosses 2-3 times as much? A college degree has value because it has some level of scarcity, a concept you and all Bernie supports have a problem wrapping your heads around because you've probably never taken a intro to economics class in your entire life. Things are only valuable when some people have them and some don't. Everybody can't have everything, everybody can't be well off. It doesn't work that way in the real world and bar a few examples and centrally planned economies don't work, especially in countries the size of America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Redstreak said: What the hell do you think anyone votes for someone for? You think people are gonna go vote for Donald Trump with the tagline "Well, I guess I'll sit at a podium for four years"? You think people are gonna go vote for Ted Cruz hoping to hear speeches like "Well yesterday I had chicken salad for dinner, and thought about passing a law to change 4th Street to Hamilton Ln."? People vote for a candidate because they're going in with the hope that this will be the person to change the country for the better. But because Bernie is a message of liberal hope all of a sudden it's just young millenials with heads stuck in rainbows? You can miss me with whatever that is. Slay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 minute ago, MJHolland said: We should invest in the middle class by taxing them and their bosses 2-3 times as much? A college degree has value because it has some level of scarcity, a concept you and all Bernie supports have a problem wrapping your heads around because you've probably never taken a intro to economics class in your entire life. Things are only valuable when some people have them and some don't. Everybody can't have everything, everybody can't be well off. It doesn't work that way in the real world and bar a few examples and centrally planned economies don't work, especially in countries the size of America. Who is trying to tax the middle class tho? Bernie? lol bye. Private colleges are also the reason as to why so many minorities get the boot and end up in shitty low wage jobs or no jobs at all. Because it is nearly impossible for a large amount of the minority population to afford college and to keep going to college. But I digress, obviously inequality is not your concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mast said: How the **** do you think Canada and Europe are still working fine with free PUBLIC college and universal health care? It works. Guess what Canada and Europe don't pay for? Their military. We are the world's watchdog. Even though ISIS is showing up to Paris, it's the US that is in Syria trying to take them down FOR YOU. Canada is a great state that has benefited tremendously being the number one trade partner of America. However, Europe and especially the EU is a modern disaster. I don't blame the UK for wanting to pull away from it. It's shocking how much you all @ me and tell me I'm the uneducated one when you all are so willfully ignorant to the realities of this world. Socialism has never and will never work, especially for a country like America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Mast said: Who is trying to tax the middle class tho? Bernie? lol bye. Private colleges are also the reason as to why so many minorities get the boot and end up in shitty low wage jobs or no jobs at all. Because it is nearly impossible for a large amount of the minority population to afford college and to keep going to college. But I digress, obviously inequality is not your concern. Wow. It is truly mind-blowing to me that someone, much less an individual with access to the knowledge bank of the internet alone, could think that a socialist wouldn't raise taxes. I'm truly dumbfound. I gotta log off for the night, my head is spinning, I'm beginning to feel dizzy from the ignorance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Guess what Canada and Europe don't pay for? Their military. We are the world's watchdog. Even though ISIS is showing up to Paris, it's the US that is in Syria trying to take them down FOR YOU. Canada is a great state that has benefited tremendously being the number one trade partner of America. However, Europe and especially the EU is a modern disaster. I don't blame the UK for wanting to pull away from it. It's shocking how much you all @ me and tell me I'm the uneducated one when you all are so willfully ignorant to the realities of this world. Socialism has never and will never work, especially for a country like America. Guess what funding the U.S. should have made cuts to years ago tho? Military and foreign aid. I'm talking about the ridiculous amounts of money spent on developing new weapons that we don't need and cutting expenditures in Israel. Let's not even begin on ISIS, because it was made and funded by the U.S. long before they became a major terrorist group. See you when Bernie wins NH and Iowa, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, Mast said: Guess what funding the U.S. should have made cuts to years ago tho? Military and foreign aid. I'm talking about the ridiculous amounts of money spent on developing new weapons that we don't need and cutting expenditures in Israel. Let's not even begin on ISIS, because it was made and funded by the U.S. long before they became a major terrorist group. Just so you know I am actually laughing out loud right now Of course, we don't need a military in the UN! If we get rid of the military everything will be happy-go-fun land and their will be peace and China and Russia and Turkey and NK will just de-arm themselves too!!!!!11!!!11!!!1111 I truly didn't think of that. Bravo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, MJHolland said: Just so you know I am actually laughing out loud right now Of course, we don't need a military in the UN! If we get rid of the military everything will be happy-go-fun land and their will be peace and China and Russia and Turkey and NK will just de-arm themselves too!!!!!11!!!11!!!1111 I truly didn't think of that. Bravo. Sis Also, who talked about cutting all military spending. Do you have selective reading, or....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gag 22,449 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 He's not even a socialist, he's a democratic socialist. There's a difference. headspin, happiness, DE̤̣A̢̯͔̘T͏͙̗̟̫H̗̙͡ͅ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, gag said: He's not even a socialist, he's a democratic socialist. There's a difference. Functionally there isn't. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mast said: Guess what funding the U.S. should have made cuts to years ago tho? Military and foreign aid. I'm talking about the ridiculous amounts of money spent on developing new weapons that we don't need and cutting expenditures in Israel. Let's not even begin on ISIS, because it was made and funded by the U.S. long before they became a major terrorist group. See you when Bernie wins NH and Iowa, I guess. It doesn't work that way. People may think that the USA needs to cut down on its military expenditures, but that's the naive viewpoint of innocent children who don't understand that this world is not as peaceful as they think it is. We live in an age of unprecedented relative global peace. It can change in an instant, and people hate the USA more than you think. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said: It doesn't work that way. People may think that the USA needs to cut down on its military expenditures, but that's the naive viewpoint of innocent children who don't understand that this world is not as peaceful as they think it is. We live in an age of unprecedented relative global peace. It can change in an instant, and people hate the USA more than you think. Oh trust me, I know. I'm not American. Gotta give it to the U.S. for committing genocide and getting away with it tho! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, Mast said: Oh trust me, I know. I'm not American. O sorry I assumed incorrectly. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, LebaneseDude said: O sorry I assumed incorrectly. Peep my edit tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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