Oscars whitewashed for a second year in a row

[FlopSlut 1,190]

7 minutes ago, Mast said:

This is not about songs tho  Do you know what the Oscars are?  

is this thread about the entire oscars or just that category? 

[MonsterOfSpain 8,281]

Just now, FlopSlut said:

The category is for best original song from a film  not the film itself

The news is about the Oscars in general, not that particular category.

[Mast 980]

Just now, FlopSlut said:

The category is for best original song from a film  not the film itself

??? No one is talking about that category.

This is about black ACTORS being snubbed in all 20 ACTING categories.  

[FlopSlut 1,190]

1 minute ago, Mast said:

??? No one is talking about that category.

This is about black ACTORS being snubbed in all 20 ACTING categories.  

 

1 minute ago, MonsterOfSpain said:

The news is about the Oscars in general, not that particular category.

 Oh ok, I flopped again I see...

 

Just living up to my name, you mad?  

[Mister Gaga 22,274]

41 minutes ago, Auro said:

JLaw is the current it girl it seems, she could do nothing and the academy would eat it up

tbqfh. no jennifer lawrence = no ratings

I'm kinda tired of her. I LOVED her during The Hunger Games era, but now i have the feeling she's being really overrated

[Warholian 6,880]

We need to close all threads about race. It brings the stupidity and hostility out of this site. 

[Auro 1,822]

1 hour ago, Mister Gaga said:

tbqfh. no jennifer lawrence = no ratings

I'm kinda tired of her. I LOVED her during The Hunger Games era, but now i have the feeling she's being really overrated

Same here, but I've been reading about her and she seems rude, like before kissing scenes apparently she says she eats onions and stuff just for squeaks and giggles and then she called out that guy for using a translator on his phone

[Mister Gaga 22,274]

4 minutes ago, Auro said:

Same here, but I've been reading about her and she seems rude, like before kissing scenes apparently she says she eats onions and stuff just for squeaks and giggles and then she called out that guy for using a translator on his phone

Fame went to her head really fast. But the games are over. Let's see if she survives now...

[imwoahvicky 4,248]

7 hours ago, Mr Ricky said:

I just did a quick "Best movie of 2015" search. And honestly, every movie contains a white cast, besides Straight Outta Compton. So I see where the Oscars are coming from. 

 

What my problem is... WHY IS AGE OF ADALINE NOT NOMINATED FOR ANYTHING?! THE MOVIE WAS PURE GOLD. FFS OSCARS. 

Although I enjoyed Age of Adaline, it's the fact that it missed being one of those great movies that live on forever type of thing. It had a chance of getting it, but sadly, it missed. The movie looked way better in the trailers but it turned out it wasn't exactly that great, and the acting prob wasn't considered Oscar worthy including the script. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,310]

Is it really beyond people's comprehension to believe that the best acting that year just so happened to come from white actors? These things happen. I'm a music reviewer, so I see music's trends and I notice how rap music isn't as good anymore, so there's fewer rap albums getting onto best of lists. As a lot of rap albums are made by blacks, that means there's less blacks on the list. Does that make the reviewers racist? No, it just means the talent wasn't as high that year from that category. It's no different to films. It's all just coincidental. The bigger issue is that there needs to be more minorities in leading roles. Ane even supporting roles. And it just so happens that most of the movies that are Oscar bait with the best acting are featuring whites in the leading roles, ergo, mostly all whites are nominated. It goes no deeper than that. Let's focus on getting more roles for minorities in Oscar bait movies, then if they're still not getting represented well, then we can start taking an issue with it. In this modern society, people get their toys out the pram for the slightest little hint of what could be perceieved as discrimination and think any committee that has a lot of white people must be racist and evil. Get out into the real world and educate yourselves.

[Auro 1,822]

33 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said:

Fame went to her head really fast. But the games are over. Let's see if she survives now...

Yea, I feel like she will just because of how famous the games made her and she's not a bad actress

[NCgaga 4,318]

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? So because no "ethnic" actors were nominated, the oscars are racists? Maybe this year the most talent just happened to be white. The ratio of white actors to minority actors are huge as well, because he audience as well as the American population's biggest group is white peoples. Soon these award shows are going to nominate people, just so they aren't called racist. We really want to avoid awarding talent because we don't want to offend anyone? Wtf is happening to our culture?!

[darkchylde 14,857]

You can't be nominated for roles that simply aren't there. The whole film industry is racist as hell. But yes, the acting nominees look like different ages of the same person. So white I could use them as light reflectors.

People will talk about progress but you know the US is not evolving when this happens. Hiding behind "but they are all old people what do you expect" or "talent always wins" is weak. I thought racists had better points than that.

 

Look, I found the racist! 

11 hours ago, Emigrante said:

Jesus. Seriously? Maybe none of black actors deserve the nomination. What world I live in to be honest. 

 

[darkchylde 14,857]

1 hour ago, NCgaga said:

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? So because no "ethnic" actors were nominated, the oscars are racists? Maybe this year the most talent just happened to be white. The ratio of white actors to minority actors are huge as well, because he audience as well as the American population's biggest group is white peoples. Soon these award shows are going to nominate people, just so they aren't called racist. We really want to avoid awarding talent because we don't want to offend anyone? Wtf is happening to our culture?!

 

1 hour ago, NCgaga said:

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? So because no "ethnic" actors were nominated, the oscars are racists? Maybe this year the most talent just happened to be white. The ratio of white actors to minority actors are huge as well, because he audience as well as the American population's biggest group is white peoples. Soon these award shows are going to nominate people, just so they aren't called racist. We really want to avoid awarding talent because we don't want to offend anyone? Wtf is happening to our culture?!

 

3 hours ago, Warholian said:

We need to close all threads about race. It brings the stupidity and hostility out of this site. 

 

6 hours ago, CurlyBae said:

This should stop lol.

 

5 hours ago, Redstreak said:

No no no it's just apparently much easier to believe that in two years and 40 nominations, no minority actor had a better performance. People who so easily dismiss things like this are def part of the problem and think racism has to be this big conscious evil thing.

 

8 hours ago, Twisted Shadows said:

Since we're on this topic, are we suggesting that there be some kind of affirmative action, as there is in education and equal opportunity employers, when it comes to awarding cast of movies, shows, music, or entertainment in general? Should politics and background be considered along with talent to ensure equal and fair terms for who gets nominated and/or wins? Because if Hollywood is indeed racist as alleged, would that be the solution?

 

7 hours ago, LebaneseDude said:

Stop. 

Just stop.

 

7 hours ago, LoveandMagic said:

I don't think that the Oscars are racist, but I do think Hollywood may have a certain perception of what the average viewer wants that can come off as prejudiced, if that makes any sense. I remember there was some film that came out a few years back, it looked like a very good action thriller, and the lead actor was black. I don't think it did well (despite the actor and film getting good reviews) and I think the director (or maybe producer) came out and said that the reason why was because audiences weren't "ready" for a black action hero.

I do know that Hollywood and television almost always considers marketability as a major factor in casting and choosing screenplays. A great many of the biggest or most buzzworthy names happen to be white. This seems disproportionate to the diversity of the populace, so we have to ask if there really aren't that many minorities interested in the biz, and even less that can take on the types of roles or projects that are popular. This doesn't likely seem to be the case. 

I've heard one reviewer that has said that audiences want to see themselves in the primary cast, but this is based on the assumption that minorities aren't frequent movie goers or fans of television series, which simply isn't true, but maybe Hollywood thinks the same?

I've noticed that when it comes to roles for minorities, particularly African Americans, it seems there's some limitations to the type of casting done. That doesn't mean there aren't great minority actors, directors, screenwriters, or films/tv with predominently non-white casts (particularly versatile ones), but they seem pretty few and far in between (in terms of promotion). Often too, they seem to deal with the similar topics.

It seems that the entertainment industry is sort of limited in the type of projects that are being offered to non-white individuals. Maybe it's an unconcious prejudice, or maybe the people interested in these projects are honestly not thought of as being a "right" fit. I don't know but it does seem a bit strange.

I do wonder what goes on in the offices of producers or casting agencies. Sometimes I watch a film and try to picture a different actor or director of equal caliber (who just happens to be non-white) and wonder if there would be anything fundamentally different to the role or project if they were cast as opposed to the white lead? Would audiences react differently? I wonder if this is a thought that occurs often in Hollywood.

 

7 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This is a really interesting discussion.

We can't know what brought us to the reality of "no people of color nominated" this year. We can know that it is the reality of the nominations. We can't know it's because of direct racism. Some may speculate passive or subconscious racism.

What should be done? Specifically. If there were 8 serious contenders for a nomination, and a person genuinely believes that 5 are the most deserving of the nomination, but happen to be white, what should they do?

 

Anyone can point out a problem, it's seriously considering solutions that's important. I want to hear opinions on solutions.

 

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A great solution that I'd like to highlight that I have seen, is when actor/comedian Aziz Ansari used his fame, career, and opportunity with Netflix to make a show that almost exclusively showcases under represented minorities and their talent. He did this remarkably well and with a lot of critical and GP praise. This raised a lot of discussion and gave a platform to actors that will surely be built upon for the rest of their careers.

 

 

9 hours ago, GlamPunk said:

Well absolutely that is some ****ed up ****, but that's what we should be talking about. Not about whitewashed oscars but about how black actors aren't treated the same. Who gives a **** about awards when there's bigger racism problems in the world.

 

9 hours ago, Didymus said:

12 Years a Slave (a picture about slavery directed by a black man) winning was surely a sign of their racism, I agree. Chiwetel and Lupita being nominated is proof of the same, esp. Lupita winning.

It's much easier to turn the argument around: black people don't get enough major roles in the film industry, hence their chance of winning film awards is dramatically smaller. Don't be ****ing ignorant and lazy like this, people.

 

9 hours ago, monketsharona said:

Isn't The Weeknd nominated ? 

 

9 hours ago, FlopSlut said:

Well they shouldnt give special treatment to anyone. Its the best original song competition, and if the experts thought that certain songs werent well written or well sung or original then thats it. It shouldnt matter what the skin color is. Oh no! They didnt nominate someone from India, or an Asian person!

Understand that its not like they picked white people only, they picked the best songs and it happened to be those.

 

10 hours ago, andy232000 said:

people are oversensitive these days

 

9 hours ago, GlamPunk said:

People ARE too sensitive these days.
People who deserve awards, get them! 
 

 

9 hours ago, Stellar said:

Y'all need to relax. 

People are looking for an issue in everything now a days. It makes me cringe. I'm embarrassed for half of you. 

 

9 hours ago, Higher said:

 

 

10 hours ago, Pity Party said:

Everything and everyone is racist. lol bye

 

10 hours ago, MelbHawker said:

I don't think the Academy deliberately avoids nominating black actors. That's all I'm saying on this issue. 
 

 

10 hours ago, Mr Ricky said:

I just did a quick "Best movie of 2015" search. And honestly, every movie contains a white cast, besides Straight Outta Compton. So I see where the Oscars are coming from. 

 

What my problem is... WHY IS AGE OF ADALINE NOT NOMINATED FOR ANYTHING?! THE MOVIE WAS PURE GOLD. FFS OSCARS. 

 

[Nicole 1,809]

Viola Davis' speech when she won an Emmy last year (I know it's an Oscars thread but same issues apply)

"‘In my mind, I see a line. And over that line, I see green fields and lovely flowers and beautiful white women with their arms stretched out to me, over that line. But I can’t seem to get there no how. I can’t seem to get over that line.’ That was Harriet Tubman in the 1800s. And let me tell you something: The only thing that separates women of color from anyone else is opportunity. You cannot win an Emmy for roles that are simply not there. So here’s to all the writers, the awesome people that are Ben Sherwood, Paul Lee, Peter Nowalk, Shonda Rhimes, people who have redefined what it means to be beautiful, to be sexy, to be a leading woman, to be black. And to the Taraji P. Hensons, the Kerry Washingtons, the Halle Berrys, the Nicole Beharies, the Meagan Goods, to Gabrielle Union: Thank you for taking us over that line. Thank you to the Television Academy. Thank you."

Yes, the nominations ARE whitewashed this year. But it goes far beyond the academy - roles are not being written for minorities - their stories are not being told, the opportunities are not there.