Didymus 34,379 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Absolutely agree with BTW and ARTPOP sounding bad and you don't even need to be an audiophile to hear it (I'm not, but I only have to listen to a TF or TFM song after a BTW/AP one to notice the obvious difference). Not sure what you think about TIHTY but to me that's the weakest audio she's ever had. It has to be an artistic decision though, since she definitely had enough time to tweak it (though I still don't get why she chose to muffle her own voice and all the instruments), but it still has me worried for the next album. I have no problem waiting more for a fully finished, perfected album either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, benihana said: Awesome! Thanks and where to buy these tracks reputably? HDTracks.com is probably the most well known distributor of Hi-Res, AcousticSounds.com, iTrax. Here is a site that will look up any artist you are interested in and show you what and who carries it in HD. http://findhdmusic.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Didymus said: Absolutely agree with BTW and ARTPOP sounding bad and you don't even need to be an audiophile to hear it (I'm not, but I only have to listen to a TF or TFM song after a BTW/AP one to notice the obvious difference). Not sure what you think about TIHTY but to me that's the weakest audio she's ever had. It has to be an artistic decision though, since she definitely had enough time to tweak it (though I still don't get why she chose to muffle her own voice and all the instruments), but it still has me worried for the next album. I have no problem waiting more for a fully finished, perfected album either. This is why you're my favorite GGD member. Period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 My only hope is that Gaga still reads GGD and sees our concerns over audio-quality.. I think her working with Tony may just make her address it because he's a huge fan of Hi-Res. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Justinn said: This is why you're my favorite GGD member. Period. Same face to the idea of listening to DIDT in 24bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just now, Didymus said: Same face to the idea of listening to DIDT in 24bit. Of all the Gaga songs I want to hear in Hi-Res, DITD may be the most wanted. SHICD and Venus would be amazing too. Sidenote: Michael Jackson was a perfectionist when it came to his audio. He literally worked on lyrics and vocals for 6 months at a time until they were perfect- THEN he would literally go over the mastering over and over again until it was , in his mind, perfect. This is why Thriller and Bad are amongst the highest regarded recordings of all time. Both of which were recorded before I was born, and I am 27 years old. It eludes me as to why, Lady Gaga, one of the most revered artists of our generation would find it acceptable to record an album, a timepiece in her legacy, on something as miniscule as a laptop. Granted she was touring, but I think the final product needs to be massaged and not rushed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalinea 69 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I read the whole topic and the only thing I can't understand with you is ARTPOP's quality. When I listen to it on my Meridian CD-Player through my Jamo speakers (these are all very high quality equipments) it sounds awesome, I can hear the lots of layered vocals crystal clear, very detailed and the music itself too, there is no distortion or crackling in it. (Sorry for my English). So I don't really know why do you complain about it. On the other hand, I also really want her to release LG5 in Hi-Res Audio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 20 hours ago, Justinn said: I really don't want this album to be rushed.. I'd even wait another year if I had to if it meant quality. Im not even talking about perfection because in music, perfection is subjective. Like honestly they need to spend months just mastering the album. ARTPOP and Born This Way were both so rushed that the overall sound quality of the albums were terrible. Now before you come for my head- I want to make something very clear. Some of you are going to say they sounded fine and that's great, but this is going to come across as pure elitism and I don't intend for it to, it's just true. I have an acute ability to distinguish **** audio from good audio because I am a hardcore Audiophile. I don't buy my music on iTunes, I don't stream. I want to hear the music in the fullest detail and the most articulate fashion possible. Interscope didn't even release TF, TFM, BTW, or ARTPOP in 24bit. Cheek to Cheek actually WAS released in 24bit 96/24 and it sounds so great- in fact it's one of the top sellers on HDTracks (Because audiophiles know quality- it's fact). Gaga once said that once she releases something, it's forever, it's what she leaves behind. I want her and her team to not overlook this detail this time. While you may not think it's important (excuse your Apple earpods for just a second) the Grammy voting commission takes mastering and overall recording quality into huge consideration when picking a winner. That's why Beck won AOTY last year and why Daft Punk did the year before. Please Bobby, Please Gaga, Please RedOne, PLEASE INTERSCOPE. Don't assume that all Lady Gaga fans are okay with half-assed recording and mastery. Even PRISM sounded better than ARTPOP from a mastery standpoint, and whataya know, it's in the HDTracks.com catalog! **fumes** If any of you are interested in checking out a better way to experience Cheek to Cheek you can find it here: http://www.hdtracks.com/cheek-to-cheek-deluxe Note: You have to download the HDTracks Download Manager and if you're going to play it on your iPhone you will need the Onkyo App because it allows playback of True FLAC, AIFF, WAV, and ALAC. I'll include links below: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onkyo-hf-player/id704139896?mt=8 Another Note: If you have any non Cheek to Cheek Gaga FLAC files they are not real! There are a lot of UPSCALED 16bit *CD Quality* files out there but they are just what I said, CD Quality Only. CD Quality is still compressed, and not true lossless, which is depressing because this means that no one outside of the studio has ever heard what any material from TF, TFM, BTW, or ARTPOP actually sounds like because it's never been made publicly available. Maybe you should just buy a new set of earbuds or headphones and speakers, to me the only song that doesn't sound high quality is Dope, especially the parts heavy on bass. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, PopThatArt said: Maybe you should just buy a new set of earbuds or headphones and speakers, to me the only song that doesn't sound high quality is Dope, especially the parts heavy on bass. I thought I made this clear, and I'm not trying to be rude, but I have invested over $1000 in various audio equipment, including a $450 set of headphones. To most people, it's going to sound fine because they haven't been trained to hear the difference yet. When I listen to music I'm not working out, I'm not dancing, I am specifically just listening. Its the way my mind works. I am analyzing every single section, sound, tone. I am listening for how many different instruments are playing, intently. Not just the vocals. Out of the thousands of albums I have listened to in this setting, ARTPOP is one of the worst when it comes to clarity, depth, and isolation. It's all thrown together in one hot mess. To the contrary of what you hear, Dope to me is one of the better tracks on ARTPOP because of it's layers and construction. What do you consider high quality, like when you hear something, what makes you label it as high-quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuHassan1992 766 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah, I agree. Born This Way sounds really bad, there's no clarity. And the album isn't even mastered that loud, so it's kinda weird it still sounds so muddy and hot. But since *most* people listen to music on apple earbuds, they don't really bother, I guess. The loudness war is to blame. they just compress the hell out of everything and amp it up, because people think louder is better, which is not the case. I remember I listened to Ed Sheeran's new album and immediately thought it was mixed really well, it was really clear and loud but didn't sound squashed. Here's to hoping they mix and master this album really well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Datguy said: Yeah, I agree. Born This Way sounds really bad, there's no clarity. And the album isn't even mastered that loud, so it's kinda weird it still sounds so muddy and hot. But since *most* people listen to music on apple earbuds, they don't really bother, I guess. The loudness war is to blame. they just compress the hell out of everything and amp it up, because people think louder is better, which is not the case. I remember I listened to Ed Sheeran's new album and immediately thought it was mixed really well, it was really clear and loud but didn't sound squashed. Here's to hoping they mix and master this album really well That's what I love about all of Lana's albums. I have BTD and UV in Hi-Res but Honeymoon isn't out in Hi-Res yet, but they sound amazing without Hi-Res even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny 12,736 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I never notice the difference so it doesn't matter for me (I just wouldn't wait longer tbh ) I like dancin', and ponies.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not CD is inferior to hi res digital formats Lots of FLACs are just encoded from the CD release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfonso 1,547 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well, I would be here for it wondering why we didn't get the past albums in hi-res , hopefully we'll get them soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Nino said: Not CD is inferior to hi res digital formats Lots of FLACs are just encoded from the CD release This is simply not true and there are numbers to prove it. People who can't hear the difference. can't hear it because they don't know what to listen for or don't listen to music closely enough to even hear minor details in non hi-res recordings. But, you are completely, 100 percent wrong about FLACs being encoded from CD releases. Did you even read what I wrote earlier? I didn't pull that out of my ass. If you're not here for Hi-Res audio that's fine, but you're making absolute factless statements about it being a "bandwagon trend" and compared to VINYL which is like apples to oranges, then you said that it was because Gaga didn't care for fancy equipment which is so stupid because Hi-Res has absolutely nothing to do with the equipment used to record the audio. IF THAT WERE THE CASE ALBUMS FROM THE F****ng 60s,70s, and early 80s wouldn't be available to purchase in Hi-Res because Hi-Res audio wasn't experimented with until 1985. Please come back when you can support your arguments with facts and not opinions. Simple. Furthermore, I have probably spent more money on audio equipment than you have spent on your entire music library. Infact you probably don't even buy your music, so obviously if you don't care enough to buy the music and support the artist you aren't going to care about sound quality or take the time to educate yourself about this subject before you start spewing BS to justify your acceptance of average-joe, highly compressed audio. I really don't think you have malicious intent, Nino, I just think you have no clue what you're talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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