ChasingGhosts 726 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 21 minutes ago, Mobster said: Would you care to elaborate? In the sense that Hitler inspired and cultivated the masses. He capitalised on social and political problems to gain relevance and built an empire (literally) by using his fanbase. Born This Way > Joanne > The Fame Monster > The Fame > ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clefable 296 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 33 minutes ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie you stole like 80 percent of this paragraph from a post on tumblr lol but yeah david bowie did alot of shitty things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clefable 296 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, SISTERV said: The context is so different. There has to be a margin of error when looking at what a high rock star said nearly five ****ing decades ago. You're looking at things with presentism. I'm sure there are things we say all the time that are accepted now because we haven't gotten to perfect understanding yet but will be looked at as "shaky" and "offensive in 2070. It doesn't mean our intentions are driven by hatred. Your opinion suggests people or cultures don't evolve and that we should pretty much focus on the flaws of the past rather than learn and accept them. No one is perfect. P.S. all those rape allegations are allegations. And because the man is dead and there is no literal proof you should have kept your horribly worded and terribly timed opinion to yourself. this entire post is pretentious and unnecessary, the fact that these events took place decades ago should not justify the fact that he had sex with multiple minors under the age of 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, ChasingGhosts said: In the sense that Hitler inspired and cultivated the masses. He capitalised on social and political problems to gain relevance and built an empire (literally) by using his fanbase. That's a really vague comparison and it applies to a lot of circumstances, not only dictatorships. When I think of rock stars "capitalizing on (...) political problems to gain relevance" is not the first thing that comes to mind... But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes and 4,884 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 So feel sorry for him Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warholian 6,880 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Didymus said: @PartySick His racism accusation seems to come from this: Speaking as The Thin White Duke, Bowie's persona at the time, and "at least partially tongue-in-cheek", he made statements that expressed support for fascism and perceived admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "Britain is ready for a fascist leader... I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism... I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership." He was also quoted as saying: "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and "You've got to have an extreme right front come up and sweep everything off its feet and tidy everything up." Bowie later retracted these comments and blamed them on mental instability caused by his drug problems at the time, saying: "I was out of my mind, totally, completely crazed." (Wikipedia) What a mess Do you guys know how absolutely decked out on coke (among other things) he was at the time? Kevin Parker, Mac Demarco, Mark Ronson, and a stoned Lady Gaga. Need I say more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warholian 6,880 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie You're seriously awful or you're just ignorant. It was a single isolated time period that lasted like a matter of weeks in the 80s, a time period which would later lead Bowie to actually get himself clean. You probably knew nothing about him, skimmed his Wikipedia page, and decided he was Hitler. ****ing honestly. Why does this site not allow some jokes to be made but when someone's calling David Bowie, whom passed away hours ago, a rapist, fascist, and pedophile, we're all taking their opinion as a valid argument? Kevin Parker, Mac Demarco, Mark Ronson, and a stoned Lady Gaga. Need I say more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Goodness lord his body isn't even't cold yet and some of you already wanna tear him apart. If you have your doubts about his character, there is a thing like "too soon"...this is one of those moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 You want to tear him to shreds then fine, go scribble your nonsense in your shitty little crayons on your shitty walls. Nobody needs YOU to make unsubstantiated remarks when many are in shock and mourning at a man's death. If you think that your actions are appropriate then you should go ask an adult, you jumped up , idiotic little nobody. You are nothing and never will be anything to the world. So **** off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, Warholian said: Do you guys know how absolutely decked out on coke (among other things) he was at the time? Doesn't make it less of a mess, imo. Though I wasn't gunning for him at all, mind you. Just sharing what I found. There's only two people in this thread who are really determined to be negative about him and I'm not one of them. The absolute majority in this thread is positive and shows support so I don't see why you need to be posting like you are and generalizing when really, nothing's the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm glad she hasn't, I don't want to celebrate the life of a rapist and racist His daughter is black and I dont recall any rape allegations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide 9,202 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 This is like Joan Rivers death all over again. The love and the hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It looks like accusing people, from the 60/70s, of rape is the thing now ? It is such a shame but I find it absolutely incredible how it was recently his birthday and he also recently put an album out just prior to his death, he must have known it wouldn't be long. Such a shame but his legacy will always go on. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,602 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm sure she's dealing with it as anyone, such a shock coming off the high of winning her Golden Globe it must be. These allegations seem to have such impeccable timing, on the coat tails on his death... Like Michael Jackson all over again... At least he's in peace from all that the world tosses around as all who depart from it. JSS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 6 hours ago, Gagadonna said: Maybe she wants to keep reserve until a tribute performance Personally I don't know how I would react if Gaga died out of the blue I would be speechless for... I don't know how long Me too and I almost never cry but I think I would :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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